So is the “safe harbor” the Revelation? The one you claim to be Dangerous? I think any two nodisms in combination become a “Not-ism”. I’m not sure it takes two. Got a quote to give us a hint what you are trying to say? Do you mean life must be lived and decisions made and experience gained? So we are taught in the Dangerous book (your claim). And this would have what to do with the topic?
The following is a recent post and exchange between myself (aka fanofVan) and VanAmadon (aka nodAmanaV) which helps explain nod/Am’s form of presentation. It is unfortunate that he still refuses to answer simple and direct questions and posts insinuating and obtuse and confrontational forms of posts. While nothing new (he began a “topic” entitled “The DANGERS of the URANTIA Book” at TruthBook), he did promise to stop doing so…as you will read below.
These were a public posting and not a PM or email and as nod has so recently said here: “VanAmadon wrote: Using different monikers in different forums is fine. Just don’t be deceitful about who you really are. In the end, making greetings and expressing friendship does nothing to cover up what’s happening. Personality has a way of being distinct, no matter how hard you try to feign that you’re somebody else.”
fanofVan wrote:
nod….hope you will excuse my confusion.
You said: “The more you know what the Urantia Book says, the harder the goal becomes what it doesn’t say.”
Then said: “Knowing what the Urantia Book says should encourage the discovery of what it doesn’t say. That’s the goal that gets harder to reach when what it says is ignored.”
Hate to quibble….but this has not been my experience at all. For me, it has become easier and easier to experience life by the light and map of the UB and to adjust my motives, intentions, priorities, and choices by its study and implementation in the daily walk of life. The goal does not become harder….but easier. That goal does not get “harder to reach”….but then, I, for one, am not and have not “ignored” what it teaches.
(nod/Am replies): I’m glad you pointed this out Brad. Yes, I meant easier. I intended to clear it up by saying “Knowing what the Urantia Book says should encourage the discovery of what it doesn’t say.”
I need to admit that I’ve been engaging in using shock tactics to a degree (please forgive me), which I won’t do anymore. I was raised by a man who spoke in opposite terms to me all the time, and it’s one of those things that embedded deep in me that I struggle not to express like a programmed robot. He repeatedly told me that there isn’t a God but I know now that what he was really saying was not to look to him for the answers, which led me to discover that God does exist, and comfortingly nearby, within, my Father in heaven. I often look back on the things I post and realize that this rather automatic part of my personality is way behind the curve, it kind of runs in the family. To me it’s clear evidence that not only will I never fuse in the mortal life, I may never survive at all.
So I’m determined for a reset here. The Urantia Book is the greatest place to learn many of the things I needed to know in order to begin to grow spiritually. The rest will be determined by my faith and willingness to follow my inner guide to cooperate with the Father, and resist the sometimes overwhelming urge to contend with my brothers.
Your recent reply to me yesterday has opened my eyes much, and I’m relieved. SEla_Kelly’s latest topic he posted a couple of days ago also made me realize more of what I needed to know.
I hope that helps to clear things up.
(My response): nod – I appreciate the admission and candor….explains much over these past 18 months. I welcome your “reset” and anticipate a more focused discussion on the UB teachings and our personal religious experience related thereto.
Based on my prior discussions, arguments, disagreements, and debates, I would suggest it is far too late for you “to begin to grow spiritually” – meaning only that I am certain such growth has already occurred in multiple aspects of your heart, mind, and soul. Don’t be too hard on yourself. I hold no grudge nor harbor any ill will….and frankly, such discourse as we have had has enriched me due to all the research and thought I have had to muster to attempt to deliver contrast and allow the Papers to speak for themselves on so many issues!! It is by such questioning and such confusion that the student learns and the student teaches! No worries Brother…..I am quite confident of your soul’s survival and the fullness of your potential.
Brad aka fanofVan”
"Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."
