Rick Warren wrote: And when exactly are we judged? The day we arrive? Sometime, somewhere on Mansonia?
First of all, this is somewhat determined by circle status. Third circlers have a “judgment” immediately after death. Judgment in this case is between the destiny guardian and the Adjuster, then, when confirmed by the Universal Censors, the matter is sent up to the Ancients of Days who make the decree of advanced standing.
112.4.5 If, when death overtakes you, you have attained the third circle or a higher realm and therefore have had assigned to you a personal guardian of destiny, and if the final transcript of the summary of survival character submitted by the Adjuster is unconditionally certified by the destiny guardian — if both seraphim and Adjuster essentially agree in every item of their life records and recommendations — if the Universal Censors and their reflective associates on Uversa confirm this data and do so without equivocation or reservation, in that event the Ancients of Days flash forth the mandate of advanced standing over the communication circuits to Salvington, and, thus released, the tribunals of the Sovereign of Nebadon will decree the immediate passage of the surviving soul to the resurrection halls of the mansion worlds.
Thanks for that quote. This is the three day passage my characters took. So…judgment has already happened in their case.
All others must wait for a dispensation and all such “judgments” take place on mansion worlds, and I believe it is number one since we all have to go there first. The angels are required to be there, but the Adjuster does not have to show up. If the Adjuster makes no answer, then there is no survival and the gig is up. The reason is because there has to be something of value that survives in order for the Adjuster to take up residence. So, it’s a matter of whether there is something of value present or nothing of value, or “nothing”. It’s not really a detailed judgment of all the things we’ve done in our lives, which you say requires memories, but rather what we have built up in our lives that has lasting value. There has to be something in the soul which would indicate a desire to do God’s will, regardless of how feeble. If there’s nothing there, there’s nothing there. That’s the “judgement;” it’s a discernment of the presence of something . . . anything resembling a desire for God’s will. If there is a desire, even an minuscule one, God shows up. That’s what he does! And that’s all you need on “Judgment Day”, for God to show up in some form, Adjuster, Son or Spirit.
So you don’t think those 1st and 2nd circlers have to appear before a judgment council? Give an accounting?
113:6.7 And even so, when a planetary age ends, when those in the lower circles of mortal achievement are forgathered, it is their group guardians who reassemble them in the resurrection halls of the mansion spheres, even as your record tells: “And he shall send his angels with a great voice and shall gather together his elect from one end of the realm to another.”
113:6.8 The technique of justice demands that personal or group guardians shall respond to the dispensational roll call in behalf of all nonsurviving personalities. The Adjusters of such nonsurvivors do not return, and when the rolls are called, the seraphim respond, but the Adjusters make no answer. This constitutes the “resurrection of the unjust,” in reality the formal recognition of the cessation of creature existence. This roll call of justice always immediately follows the roll call of mercy, the resurrection of the sleeping survivors. But these are matters which are of concern to none but the supreme and all-knowing Judges of survival values. Such problems of adjudication do not really concern us.
Still not seeing when exactly this happens to lower circlers, you?
113:6.9 Group guardians may serve on a planet age after age and eventually become custodians of the slumbering souls of thousands upon thousands of sleeping survivors. They can so serve on many different worlds in a given system since the resurrection response occurs on the mansion worlds.
49.6.7 Thus are the sleeping survivors of a planetary age repersonalized in the dispensational roll calls. But with regard to the nonsalvable personalities of a realm, no immortal spirit is present to function with the group guardians of destiny, and this constitutes cessation of creature existence. While some of your records have pictured these events as taking place on the planets of mortal death, they all really occur on the mansion worlds.
47:3.5 Regardless of the technique which may be employed on the individual worlds of time in connection with special or dispensational resurrections, the real and conscious reassembly of actual and complete personality takes place in the resurrection halls of mansonia number one. Throughout all eternity you will recall the profound memory impressions of your first witnessing of these resurrection mornings.
Yes!
47:3.10 If you are not to be detained on mansion world number one, at the end of ten days you will enter the translation sleep and proceed to world number two, and every ten days thereafter you will thus advance until you arrive on the world of your assignment.
On what mansion world would you place third circlers?
Rick Warren wrote: Resurrectees have to have a frame of being and reference, unless they are to be like new born earthlings, blank slate mind, no soul, no God fragment indwelling.
Resurrectees have a morontia level of the cosmic mind to build a new framework with. They have spiritually significant memories from the Adjuster, and they also have a self-consciousness due to the presence of personality. Personality additionally comes with a sense of sequentiality and the ability to recognize and respond to other personalities. Then there is the soul, which is the transformed character of the personality built up over a lifetime. Character is something worth studying if you’re going to write this story. Character is a personality’s nature, its own distinctive quality of expression. Soul character is an indicator of strength of conviction to universe values. Obviously, if you are strongly motivated to find God and be like him, it doesn’t matter where you are, here or there, you will respond to that urge and unify your new life around that purpose. You would immediately begin building new thought structures, or frameworks, with that goal in mind. The framework from the material mind would not be functional on the morontia worlds having been mere scaffolding. The new mind for the new world is built with Adjustered-memories. The Adjuster only brings memories of worth-while experiences with him. The erroneous stuff “returns to dust” along with that temporary scaffolding left behind.
Agree.
112:5.22 The Thought Adjuster will recall and rehearse for you only those memories and experiences which are a part of, and essential to, your universe career. If the Adjuster has been a partner in the evolution of aught in the human mind, then will these worth-while experiences survive in the eternal consciousness of the Adjuster. But much of your past life and its memories, having neither spiritual meaning nor morontia value, will perish with the material brain; much of material experience will pass away as onetime scaffolding which, having bridged you over to the morontia level, no longer serves a purpose in the universe. But personality and the relationships between personalities are never scaffolding; mortal memory of personality relationships has cosmic value and will persist. On the mansion worlds you will know and be known, and more, you will remember, and be remembered by, your onetime associates in the short but intriguing life on Urantia.
Richard E Warren
