Really??!! You wish to carry on this exposure of your character, lies, falsehoods, deceit, and representation of the Manifesto and your namesake Caligastia? A rather stupid choice. But it is yours to make! Just to let you know, I will dog your trail of deceit so long as I am able and continue to show how small is your Big Brain and how large its arrogance of self puffery. You’re batting about 0 for 100 here lately, every post an example of either your ignorance or your agenda. I tire of you and those like you who lie about the Papers and do so in ways that belittle others and prevent the kinder and gentler voices to raise objection or expose your madness. And mad you are as you defend the treachery of traitors and besmirch God and His universe and all those beloved creatures who remain faithful in their trust and faith.
As Bonita said earlier: “I had no idea . . . it’s a shame such mental derangement exists in this world, but it does. Why it’s allowed on forums I’ll never understand. They tell us that pity is only a partial manifestation of mercy. To be honest, I can’t get past pity on this one. How is it that there are enough mercy credits to cover this amount of evil? Our God must be a truly wonderful God to have mercy on a person capable of such distorted thinking. Of course, God loves the person and not the person’s perverted sins. I might be able to do that . . . not sure. In this case it really is sin because has consciously chosen to act out his evil thoughts and share them with the world. He laughs his behavior off calling it an experiment on the human mind. Like Josef Mengele? Personally, it makes me ill. Sin will do that.”
Me here: Like your self chosen, free will motives, intentions, priorities, and words illustrate, you have chosen darkness and despair for yourself, embracing evil to now expose sin, even outright rebellion yourself, turning away from reality and toward irrelevancy. Perhaps you might yet acknowledge your selfhood as it is and turn toward the light of truth, beauty, and goodness? Your belief in your superiority mocks yourself and yet you are relentless to defend iniquity. Turn away from the darkness Midi/Caligastia while you may.
53:9.8 (611.7) But for ages the seven prison worlds of spiritual darkness in Satania have constituted a solemn warning to all Nebadon, eloquently and effectively proclaiming the great truth “that the way of the transgressor is hard”; “that within every sin is concealed the seed of its own destruction”; that “the wages of sin is death.”
Hope to hear from others….but my presumption is “reflectivity” which would not be a “contradiction” at all: [. . ] How to ‘appear’ to be in more than one place at the same time!! Note the TA’s capabilities in this regard…was John actually at the scene he witnessed regarding his revelation? Nope. Ever heard of or studied this most practical functionalities in time and space?
Actually Bradly, that would be a very good explanation, and if this “reflectivity” where only present in Jesus’ mind, I could accept it verbatim, however when one looks at this “phenomenon of reflectivity”, and examines the explanation, as is assumed in the UB, I could concur. Being that these figures were also seem by other mortals, it would be interesting to know how these characters or figures appeared to be seen, and then one might assume that they left by the same means as they appeared. Also, it would seem that the “phenomenon of reflectivity” is likened to a “virtual” projection, and should this be the case, a simultaneous projection to the minds in close proximity to this “phenomenon” but, Bradly, according to you, virtual projection does not exist, am I correct? But now you say it does exist? So, do these so called “phenomenon” only apply when it is to your benefit when attempting to discredit others of their understanding? Either way, your explanation could be a viable answer to this implied contradiction, but until it is proven it would still be a “phenomenon”, unexplained. Also, being that the entry in the UB, of this event experienced by Jesus and others, might pose this very question as to how it was possible to actually be done? Therefore, it might have been advantageous, in order to not be confusing, that the authors indicated that this union of beings was possible by the method of “reflectivity”, therefore, still a contradiction, although in words only, but in order to explain this one would need to actually assume that this is something not said in the UB, so if it is not literally presented in print, it is not so. Correct? It did not say, literally that this appearance was the product of “reflectivity” so, your argument must also, literally be false. No?
NO!! I have never said there is no reflectivity or even ‘virtual’ projections. YOU claimed the Morontia Worlds and experience were virtual, another lie and falsehood, as verified by several students here by the posting of appropriate text confirming the very real and physical realities of the Mansion Worlds and all other architectural spheres. Then you tried to claim such worlds to be spaceships of transport. It seems you have an endless stream of inventions and falsehoods for every turn of your deceptions! Again…no contradiction – real, implied, or virtual. But don’t give up there Caligastia. And you don’t.
WRONG AGAIN Caligstia/Midi -Van and all the corporeal staff had loyally administered the affairs and their duties related to their mission following the will and direction of Caligastia, the Planetary Prince, for some 300,000 years.
Okay, if those who are assumed to side with the rebellion, did not take some kind of oath of allegiance, then there would be no reason to hold them also responsible for their free-will choices. Then regardless of their choosing, they could not be held responsible for their free-will choice, but they were, WHY? If nothing was really done for seven years, or until everyone made a choice, it was because of their free-will choice, given by the the Universal Father, so who was it that made the accusation that they be adjudicated as rebels, if they only had one of two choices. Could anyone have abstained from making a choice? It would seem not. So, they were forced to choose between one way or the other. As it turned out the majority chose for ????, and they were convicted, prior to any evidence being presented. They were guilty by proxy of choosing. Also, for any of the authors of the UB to indicate anything other than what has been presented, would also put them in contempt of court, so to speak. So, being all third party information, and no real quotations, by the accused, much of the information must be assumed as skewed in favor of the accusers or prosecution, that’s why the representative of the virtual defence, objects. But I know that this objection will be overruled, by the advocates of Van. Also, being that you bring up that for three hundred thousand years of being loyal to the so called plan, it would also be logical that the results of these years might have brought on the objection to what the plan was doing to those affected by this plan. So, one would need to look at what was being done throughout this time that might have caused some sort of problem?
Actually, many or nearly all of the celestials and corporeal staff did indeed repent and entered voluntary rehabilitation as it is understood they were deceived and loyalties confused and with poor judgement based on immaturity and lack of wisdom and experience were DECEIVED by their System Sovereign, his lieutenant Satan, and a few Planetary rulers/Princes. Only the most wicked and twisted have refused to acknowledge their iniquities, disloyalties, betrayals, deceptions, and horrific claims…kind of like you Midi/Cali!
53:9.1 (610.6) Early in the days of the Lucifer rebellion, salvation was offered all rebels by Michael. To all who would show proof of sincere repentance, he offered, upon his attainment of complete universe sovereignty, forgiveness and reinstatement in some form of universe service. None of the leaders accepted this merciful proffer. But thousands of the angels and the lower orders of celestial beings, including hundreds of the Material Sons and Daughters, accepted the mercy proclaimed by the Panoptians and were given rehabilitation at the time of Jesus’ resurrection nineteen hundred years ago. These beings have since been transferred to the Father’s world of Jerusem, where they must be held, technically, until the Uversa courts hand down a decision in the matter of Gabriel vs. Lucifer. But no one doubts that, when the annihilation verdict is issued, these repentant and salvaged personalities will be exempted from the decree of extinction. These probationary souls now labor with the Panoptians in the work of caring for the Father’s world.
There has been no conviction and there is no need for trial really….just fair hearing and the evidence provided by…..drum roll…..reflectivity! Do you not know Midi/Cali that no one may hide anything from God? No thought, no motive, no intention, no lust, no lie, nothing may be or can be hidden. “Third party information”?? Hearsay? Rumor? Gossip? False witness? Skewed? Really??!! You think any of that exists in heaven? You poor soul you. There you have it….either total ignorance or complete arrogance…still and again, or is it both ignorance + arrogance? Big brain indeed!
Do you think those who repented and accepted the grace of Divine mercy and love and the embrace of reality perhaps faked it? Hahahahahahha….what a sense of humor you have. We well know the cause of “the problem” Caligastia! It’s written in plain English. Don’t know why you don’t understand it….well, sorry, that’s a fib….you do not wish to understand or accept that what the authors of the Papers write is truth. You accuse them of lying and conspiracy and cover-up and their skillful manipulation of God. Sorry, can’t help it….hahahahahahahhaha.
2. The Causes of Rebellion
53:2.1 (602.4) Lucifer and his first assistant, Satan, had reigned on Jerusem for more than five hundred thousand years when in their hearts they began to array themselves against the Universal Father and his then vicegerent Son, Michael.
53:2.2 (602.5) There were no peculiar or special conditions in the system of Satania which suggested or favored rebellion. It is our belief that the idea took origin and form in Lucifer’s mind, and that he might have instigated such a rebellion no matter where he might have been stationed. Lucifer first announced his plans to Satan, but it required several months to corrupt the mind of his able and brilliant associate. However, when once converted to the rebel theories, he became a bold and earnest advocate of “self-assertion and liberty.”
53:2.3 (602.6) No one ever suggested rebellion to Lucifer. The idea of self-assertion in opposition to the will of Michael and to the plans of the Universal Father, as they are represented in Michael, had its origin in his own mind. His relations with the Creator Son had been intimate and always cordial. At no time prior to the exaltation of his own mind did Lucifer openly express dissatisfaction about the universe administration. Notwithstanding his silence, for more than one hundred years of standard time the Union of Days on Salvington had been reflectivating to Uversa that all was not at peace in Lucifer’s mind. This information was also communicated to the Creator Son and the Constellation Fathers of Norlatiadek.
53:2.4 (602.7) Throughout this period Lucifer became increasingly critical of the entire plan of universe administration but always professed wholehearted loyalty to the Supreme Rulers. His first outspoken disloyalty was manifested on the occasion of a visit of Gabriel to Jerusem just a few days before the open proclamation of the Lucifer Declaration of Liberty. Gabriel was so profoundly impressed with the certainty of the impending outbreak that he went direct to Edentia to confer with the Constellation Fathers regarding the measures to be employed in case of open rebellion.
53:2.5 (603.1) It is very difficult to point out the exact cause or causes which finally culminated in the Lucifer rebellion. We are certain of only one thing, and that is: Whatever these first beginnings were, they had their origin in Lucifer’s mind. There must have been a pride of self that nourished itself to the point of self-deception, so that Lucifer for a time really persuaded himself that his contemplation of rebellion was actually for the good of the system, if not of the universe. By the time his plans had developed to the point of disillusionment, no doubt he had gone too far for his original and mischief-making pride to permit him to stop. At some point in this experience he became insincere, and evil evolved into deliberate and willful sin. That this happened is proved by the subsequent conduct of this brilliant executive. He was long offered opportunity for repentance, but only some of his subordinates ever accepted the proffered mercy. The Faithful of Days of Edentia, on the request of the Constellation Fathers, in person presented the plan of Michael for the saving of these flagrant rebels, but always was the mercy of the Creator Son rejected and rejected with increasing contempt and disdain.
3. The Lucifer Manifesto
53:3.1 (603.2) Whatever the early origins of trouble in the hearts of Lucifer and Satan, the final outbreak took form as the Lucifer Declaration of Liberty. The cause of the rebels was stated under three heads:
53:3.2 (603.3) 1. The reality of the Universal Father. Lucifer charged that the Universal Father did not really exist, that physical gravity and space-energy were inherent in the universe, and that the Father was a myth invented by the Paradise Sons to enable them to maintain the rule of the universes in the Father’s name. He denied that personality was a gift of the Universal Father. He even intimated that the finaliters were in collusion with the Paradise Sons to foist fraud upon all creation since they never brought back a very clear-cut idea of the Father’s actual personality as it is discernible on Paradise. He traded on reverence as ignorance. The charge was sweeping, terrible, and blasphemous. It was this veiled attack upon the finaliters that no doubt influenced the ascendant citizens then on Jerusem to stand firm and remain steadfast in resistance to all the rebel’s proposals.
53:3.3 (603.4) 2. The universe government of the Creator Son — Michael. Lucifer contended that the local systems should be autonomous. He protested against the right of Michael, the Creator Son, to assume sovereignty of Nebadon in the name of a hypothetical Paradise Father and require all personalities to acknowledge allegiance to this unseen Father. He asserted that the whole plan of worship was a clever scheme to aggrandize the Paradise Sons. He was willing to acknowledge Michael as his Creator-father but not as his God and rightful ruler.
53:3.4 (603.5) Most bitterly did he attack the right of the Ancients of Days — “foreign potentates” — to interfere in the affairs of the local systems and universes. These rulers he denounced as tyrants and usurpers. He exhorted his followers to believe that none of these rulers could do aught to interfere with the operation of complete home rule if men and angels only had the courage to assert themselves and boldly claim their rights.
53:3.5 (603.6) He contended that the executioners of the Ancients of Days could be debarred from functioning in the local systems if the native beings would only assert their independence. He maintained that immortality was inherent in the system personalities, that resurrection was natural and automatic, and that all beings would live eternally except for the arbitrary and unjust acts of the executioners of the Ancients of Days.
53:3.6 (604.1) 3. The attack upon the universal plan of ascendant mortal training. Lucifer maintained that far too much time and energy were expended upon the scheme of so thoroughly training ascending mortals in the principles of universe administration, principles which he alleged were unethical and unsound. He protested against the agelong program for preparing the mortals of space for some unknown destiny and pointed to the presence of the finaliter corps on Jerusem as proof that these mortals had spent ages of preparation for some destiny of pure fiction. With derision he pointed out that the finaliters had encountered a destiny no more glorious than to be returned to humble spheres similar to those of their origin. He intimated that they had been debauched by overmuch discipline and prolonged training, and that they were in reality traitors to their mortal fellows since they were now co-operating with the scheme of enslaving all creation to the fictions of a mythical eternal destiny for ascending mortals. He advocated that ascenders should enjoy the liberty of individual self-determination. He challenged and condemned the entire plan of mortal ascension as sponsored by the Paradise Sons of God and supported by the Infinite Spirit.
53:3.7 (604.2) And it was with such a Declaration of Liberty that Lucifer launched his orgy of darkness and death.
Me here: I recall you recently claimed God the Supreme to be only “hypothetical”….interesting. You tread dangerous waters. Very dangerous….please turn back to the shore of reality and truth Caligastia….before the mill stone arrives!
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