The most foundational teaching is that we each are fully encircuited and able to find God within ourself and every other being and that none may give truth to any other but we must each transcend materialism and ascend into spiritization. We are fully equipped. We must choose this and do this for ourselves. No priests (read interpreters) needed. So why then would a book which teaches this then present its truths in riddles and codes? Completely illogical for a book that is otherwise so logical.
I understand your point Bradly, but I also understand B.B.’s interest in such matters. Where the UB does indicate that the Thought Adjuster, does make adjustment to individuals minds, or as to go further, might just make adjustments to persons memories, and in these cases even adjust what was and is read in the Urantia Book and many other Books for that matter. Personally, whether we must “transcend materialism and ascend into spiritization” would be the same thing as saying that we have to wait until we die before we can intellectually understand what has been presented in all of these Books including the UB. But your presentation above, including that which preceded the small amount which I presented above, does present itself that you would rather that B.B., should not pursue these kind of topics or questions but, they are not “completely illogical” and have some validity if the Urantia Book context presents itself to some who possibly see more than what is “literally and figuratively” NOT “otherwise so logical” to some or others, where logical, understanding does not present itself with everyone the same way. You brought up the Book of Revelation from the Bible as a seed for misinterpretation of the words written, as prophetic to specific revelation, but as I have mentioned in the past, I have studied that Book for over thirty years and have found that all of a sudden the UB indicates that much of it was lost, where by having reread it again in recent times, and had noticed its recent abridgment, was as the UB authors indicated, but not actually lost, because it still rings unabridged in my mind and memory of its context, where I am able to compare the most recent text and asses that which was there and now not, and determine various speculative reasons for why these changes were made, and why, for that matter, it is possible for me to have retained this information in such detail. I can only speculate that my Thought Adjuster felt it necessary that I not forget or have this adjustment made for some reason. Therefore, if you have no recollection of any changes as I describe does not mean that others may not have noticed the same thing or for that matter that by reading the UB’s text promotes interest in subject matter which may spark ideas or questions which they find interesting or fascinating. So, why discourage these query at all, if they only sort out information which would otherwise never come up if not shared with others. Also, if the topic does not interest you, you have the option to just not respond, rather than discourage out of the box thinking, where even Einstein would have never come up with some of his theories if he did not think about, what if?
I can see where B.B. is attempting to go which this topic and although I think it might be a little to detailed, in attempt to associate this specific religious Church history with the “War in Heaven” but I would say that all of the religious history of time and specifically following the Jesus era and what followed with the various variations of Christianity, could very easily emulate what might have been going on in heaven, specifically at the time of the presentation of the Lucifer Manifesto. However, I don’t think that the “War in Heaven” should be looked at so much as a comparison of what occurs in a material realm but more so, what this rebellion might have caused in the spiritual realm, where the isolation which it caused would seem to have deprived the spiritual realm of something which was synonymous with the material realm, where even the UB indicates that a material creature is required for experience and that this creature also requires spiritual entities in order to make them human, rather than just animals. So, if a human being has multiple spirit entities which make it a personality, or that we know that now we have a thought adjuster, and at least one angelic host type entity along with what makes up our consciousness, would all of this have something to do with why there was a war in heaven, in that they were deprived of certain associations with us to experience what it would be like to have a material body?
