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The Michael Plan

152 posts · 15 participants · started Jul 20, 2014, 4:07 PM

TUBParticipant
Jul 31, 2014, 5:20 PM
Chris allows people to debate him all the time and he encourages it. Anyone on this forum can debate him if they want, he opens it up on his Friday night study groups, he lets people ask him anything they can think of at the end. Anyone is allowed to join in person or through webinar. If you listen to his symmetryofsoul audios the other readers debate with him a ton (especially James) and there is no animosity. People can also call into symmetryofsoul and debate whatever the subject matter is with him. His wife is on facebook interacting with readers and I have asked her a few questions on there, I am sure she would answer anyone’s questions on there as well. I bet she would answer your question on philosophy Bonita. She does instruction at the institute as well. I have emailed some questions to Chris through his website and he has answered me on there.

Regarding him having a fee for entering his perfecting horizons institute, he has other people working with him including his wife and he has quit his job and devoted all his time to the school. He isn’t making any profit off of it. He provides a lot of material for the students as well. Also I have heard that he has stopped charging people who have already paid a fee but I am not sure if that is true.

If anyone is not sure what or who we are talking about here is a link to Chris’ school. http://www.perfectinghorizonsinstitute.org/
BonitaParticipant
Jul 31, 2014, 5:21 PM

Bradly wrote:

A tadpole that spins with a grin and perhaps a tiny pair of feet in back – no, forget the feet. That’s too much like circle counting.

Wow, how did you know that I have an extensive frog collection? Wait . . . are you channeling me? Or have you received information through a midwayer-spornagia triangulation using your tinfoil cap?

Anyway, I refuse to use a legless tadpole to represent you, a man of such stature and potency. Legless tadpoles look too much like sperm. I’m going to try to upload a photo of what I think might be more suitable. And since I have no clue how to do that, I will probably fail. It would be nice if there was a preview function so you can get a look at your post before hitting the submit button. Put it on the wish list.

Edit: Dang . . . file is too big and I don’t know how to shrink it. Will now spend hours researching that . . . so much to do . . .
KerynMember
Jul 31, 2014, 5:27 PM
Bonita, you crack me up!
AnonymousInactive
Jul 31, 2014, 10:10 PM

Mara wrote:

I do not get why so many of you would change the title of it. Seems odd to me.

Mara, there are several issues with the title of the documents, the first is that it implied it is authored by “Michael”, where those who would read it, would get the impression that even though the contributors to the document(s) assume equality with “Michael”, or that they might be in communication with him.

The same would be said of using “Jesus’ name in the same context, unless there was an actual plan, which could be disseminated, therefore, the title implies authority. Even by putting a “?” at the end of the title would change its implication and would be less authoritative. The other issue which might come up is that those who may not have read the Urantia Book, or just parts of it, would not necessarily understand “Michael” in relationship with the 5th.ER, where Jesus is associable with the 4th.ER. But the issue which I would reinforce is that before anyone would read the “Plan”, it assumes that this is Michael’s Plan, where he is not the author.
BradlyParticipant
Jul 31, 2014, 10:33 PM
By the way Midi, really like your name suggestions.

"Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."
barbaranewsomParticipant
Aug 1, 2014, 12:34 PM
Thanks, Midi and Brad, for further thinking about the title.
AnonymousInactive
Sep 29, 2021, 3:18 PM

Notwithstanding the pain and suffering so widespread today, many are sensing a new confidence in themselves and in the future, a new hope that the present ills are transitory, and that a better time is near. Seeing this new light within humanity, Maitreya knows that men are awakening to His efforts and energies, that the new potencies of Aquarius are fulfilling their promise, and are drawing men together in a sensed unity of purpose and pride. From now on, this dawning sense of unity, and the strength which it engenders, will manifest itself more and more, and will lead to organised action by many to better their lot, to change conditions which belittle men and leave them helpless. In this way, a substantial change in world conditions will take place in a relatively short period of time. Men are approaching the nadir of their self-induced misfortune.

elise wrote:

I just read the Michael Plan . What’s the status?
MaraParticipant
Sep 29, 2021, 6:05 PM

richsachs wrote:

Maitreya

You make reference to someone not referenced in the Urantia Book. This leads me to think the reference pertains to material produced by people who are making stuff up. I used to belong to a cult – a religious cult. Therefore, I speak with a certainty about the lure of channeling, as a result of my past experience. In this day and age there are in existence a number of cults who claim to channel so-called others with names like the one you mention. If you want to talk about stuff like what you just posted, I suggest you go elsewhere. Here on this forum we discuss the UB, not other stuff, as you no doubt already know from past experience on this forum.

I will ask the Moderators to step in if this becomes a problem. Thanks.
BradlyParticipant
Sep 29, 2021, 7:17 PM
Hi Mara!!

I found this on Wiki:

According to Buddhist tradition, Maitreya is a bodhisattva who will appear on Earth in the future, achieve complete enlightenment, and teach the pure dharma. According to scriptures, Maitreya will be a successor to the present Buddha, Gautama Buddha (also known as Śākyamuni Buddha).[2][3] The prophecy of the arrival of Maitreya refers to a time in the future when the dharma will have been forgotten by most on the terrestrial world.

Maitreya has also been employed in a millenarian role by many non-Buddhist religions in the past, such as Theosophy, the White Lotus, as well as by modern new religious movements, such as Yiguandao.

Me here: As you say above – not sourced from or relevant to the Papers. Neither is it relevant to the topic here.

Best wishes. Bradly

"Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."
AnonymousInactive
Sep 30, 2021, 5:28 PM
does through whom mean channeled.

(1) 77:8.8 (865.1) 3. Contact personalities. In the contacts made with the mortal beings of the material worlds, such as with the subject through whom these communications were transmitted, the midway creatures are always employed. They are an essential factor in such liaisons of the spiritual and the material levels.

(2) 110:5.7 (1208.6) The Adjuster of the human being through whom this communication is being made enjoys such a wide scope of activity chiefly because of this human’s almost complete indifference to any outward manifestations of the Adjuster’s inner presence; it is indeed fortunate that he remains consciously quite unconcerned about the entire procedure. He holds one of the highly experienced Adjusters of his day and generation, and yet his passive reaction to, and inactive concern toward, the phenomena associated with the presence in his mind of this versatile Adjuster is pronounced by the guardian of destiny to be a rare and fortuitous reaction. And all this constitutes a favorable co-ordination of influences, favorable both to the Adjuster in the higher sphere of action and to the human partner from the standpoints of health, efficiency, and tranquillity.

Mara wrote:

richsachs wrote:

Maitreya

You make reference to someone not referenced in the Urantia Book. This leads me to think the reference pertains to material produced by people who are making stuff up. I used to belong to a cult – a religious cult. Therefore, I speak with a certainty about the lure of channeling, as a result of my past experience. In this day and age there are in existence a number of cults who claim to channel so-called others with names like the one you mention. If you want to talk about stuff like what you just posted, I suggest you go elsewhere. Here on this forum we discuss the UB, not other stuff, as you no doubt already know from past experience on this forum. I will ask the Moderators to step in if this becomes a problem. Thanks.
Mark KurtzParticipant
Sep 30, 2021, 9:32 PM
It seems there have always been a few who seemingly want to attract others to them, apparently as an authority “node” contact with celestials. I take a dim view of any activity attempting to gather people to self to be a “self selected” authority contact person. The best view is to trust the real leaders, our Nebadon Universe Parents, the Superuniverse Ancients and the Paradise Trinity! The Father’s Adjuster will never lead anyone astray. Neither will his Ancients and local creators.

One great guide for my own honesty efforts has been 48:6.33 “The shadow of a hair’s turning, premeditated for an untrue purpose, the slightest twisting or perversion of that which is principle – these constitute falseness.” Note the essence of the entire section! I suspect channeling is mostly “slight twisting” for someone’s purposes other than God’s.

Time to move on!
AlainParticipant
Oct 1, 2021, 12:06 AM
Well said, Mark !

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