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Religion In Human Experience – Paper 100

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  1. How do you account for prejudice, where do you think it comes from? My thoughts are that pride is more like selfishness but prejudice is more linked to primitive survival instincts.

    I do think that mankind, being of animal origin, has a natural inclination to reject anything/anyone deemed to be foreign and to dominate anything/anyone perceived to be weak.  It is part of the survival of the fittest meme.  But prejudice is more than than survival.  It is a form of primitive stereotyping and distrust, a refusal to entertain and accept differences in order to maintain a personal status quo, or comfort zone. Prejudice is an inability to trust anything outside of this zone, and I personally think the root is fear and ignorance.   Simply put, prejudice results in negative discrimination whereas wisdom results in positive discrimination.  That’s the best I can do right now.

  2. One may be ignorant without prejudice….the eager student who acknowledges a lack of knowledge and understanding and is willing to transcend the current state of ignorance with knowledge….but prejudice is always based in ignorance and its willful embrace….an obstacle to learning and growing.

    132:3.4 [Part IV]
    Revealed truth, personally discovered truth, is the supreme delight of the human soul; it is the joint creation of the material mind and the indwelling spirit. The eternal salvation of this truth-discerning and beauty-loving soul is assured by that hunger and thirst for goodness which leads this mortal to develop a singleness of purpose to do the Father’s will, to find God and to become like him. There is never conflict between true knowledge and truth. There may be conflict between knowledge and human beliefs, beliefs colored with prejudice, distorted by fear, and dominated by the dread of facing new facts of material discovery or spiritual progress.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  3. 100:1.1 A child evaluates experience in accordance with the content of pleasure; maturity is proportional to the substitution of higher meanings for personal pleasure, even loyalties to the highest concepts of diversified life situations and cosmic relations.

    Can we also say that prejudice is immature?  Doesn’t prejudice prevent loyalty to the “highest concepts of diversified life situations and cosmic relations.” If you can’t entertain diversity, you can’t entertain the elliptic symmetry and curvature of cosmic relations. You’re kinda stuck in your own little playpen with it’s walls.  Right?

  4. How do you account for prejudice, where do you think it comes from? My thoughts are that pride is more like selfishness but prejudice is more linked to primitive survival instincts.

    I do think that mankind, being of animal origin, has a natural inclination to reject anything/anyone deemed to be foreign and to dominate anything/anyone perceived to be weak. It is part of the survival of the fittest meme. But prejudice is more than than survival. It is a form of primitive stereotyping and distrust, a refusal to entertain and accept differences in order to maintain a personal status quo, or comfort zone. Prejudice is an inability to trust anything outside of this zone, and I personally think the root is fear and ignorance. Simply put, prejudice results in negative discrimination whereas wisdom results in positive discrimination. That’s the best I can do right now.

    I tend to agree with you and Brad – but:
    I still see evidence of a quick response pattern to your description, a lower Adjutant engagement, no real thinking involved.
    I also think morality has an impact on accepting differences, sometimes misguided. And I think experience tells us that not all differences should be accepted and this seems to me like survival, another lower Adjutant engagement.
    Having an open mind to differences should be differences that enhances not retards growth and security. Accepting all differences without discrimination- we’ll, you do so at your own risk imho.

  5. Papers 99 – 102 are my favorites.

    The things that gets my attention right away in paper 100 are first right up front first paragraph the focus is on the individual.

    “RELIGION IN HUMAN EXPERIENCE
    THE experience of dynamic religious living transforms the mediocre in- dividual into a personality of idealistic power. Religion ministers to the progress of all through fostering the progress of each individual, and the progress of each is augmented through the achievement of all.
    Spiritual growth is mutually stimulated by intimate association with other religionists. Love supplies the soil for religious growth—an objective lure in the place of subjective gratification—yet it yields the supreme subjective satisfac- tion. And religion ennobles the commonplace drudgery of daily living”

    And then – how many times are the words progress and growth repeated.
    And then that statement that portrays love as an objective lure.
    As for progress I see it as a spiritual thing and growth as a mind thing.
    And love, it’s true nature has nothing to do with feelings – it is not ours – it’s an objective lure, a reality. However while experiencing this lure it touches our feelings – supreme subjective gratification
    Pretty cool stuff.

  6. Accepting all differences without discrimination- we’ll, you do so at your own risk imho.

    No one says you have to accept all differences.  We’re not supposed to all think alike – like mechanical robots.  Nor are we all made alike (racial colors were created on purpose).  But, we are supposed to allow others to have their differences without discriminating against the person who has them. You can love the person without loving everything they think, do and say.  Loving the person also requires you to look past the color, race, religion, gender, sex behavior, age, culture, country of origin, social class, education, political affiliation, personal hygiene, physical appearance, clothing choice, music preference, food preference, and social ideology, among many others that seem to separate us these days.  Heck, if I didn’t look past all that stuff, I wouldn’t like anybody.  I wouldn’t have a friend in the world.

  7. Accepting all differences without discrimination- we’ll, you do so at your own risk imho.

    No one says you have to accept all differences. We’re not supposed to all think alike – like mechanical robots. Nor are we all made alike (racial colors were created on purpose). But, we are supposed to allow others to have their differences without discriminating against the person who has them. You can love the person without loving everything they think, do and say. Loving the person also requires you to look past the color, race, religion, gender, sex behavior, age, culture, country of origin, social class, education, political affiliation, personal hygiene, physical appearance, clothing choice, music preference, food preference, and social ideology, among many others that seem to separate us these days. Heck, if I didn’t look past all that stuff, I wouldn’t like anybody. I wouldn’t have a friend in the world.

    Agree completely

  8. Linking prejudice to loyalty is interesting to consider….prejudice is self centered….loyalty to one’s opinions and beliefs….the subjective view which results in error….inevitably.

    Loyalty to truth and growth and love and God within leads to a desire to learn more, and learn the better WAY into truth, beauty, and goodness…and does require the relinquishment of preconception when it understood to limit us and our ability to learn and grow.

    100:1.1 (1094.3) While religion produces growth of meanings and enhancement of values, evil always results when purely personal evaluations are elevated to the levels of absolutes. A child evaluates experience in accordance with the content of pleasure; maturity is proportional to the substitution of higher meanings for personal pleasure, even loyalties to the highest concepts of diversified life situations and cosmic relations.

    One might conclude that the loyalty to personal growth and transformation replaces the loyalty we have to self importance and our material life…the transfer of the seat of identity.

    112:5.4 [Part III]
    Human beings possess identity only in the material sense. Such qualities of the self are expressed by the material mind as it functions in the energy system of the intellect. When it is said that man has identity, it is recognized that he is in possession of a mind circuit which has been placed in subordination to the acts and choosing of the will of the human personality. But this is a material and purely temporary manifestation, just as the human embryo is a transient parasitic stage of human life. Human beings, from a cosmic perspective, are born, live, and die in a relative instant of time; they are not enduring. But mortal personality, through its own choosing, possesses the power of transferring its seat of identity from the passing material-intellect system to the higher morontia-soul system which, in association with the Thought Adjuster, is created as a new vehicle for personality manifestation.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  9. “100:1.1 (1094.3) While religion produces growth of meanings and enhancement of values, evil always results when purely personal evaluations are elevated to the levels of absolutes. A child evaluates experience in accordance with the content of pleasure; maturity is proportional to the substitution of higher meanings for personal pleasure, even loyalties to the highest concepts of diversified life situations and cosmic relations”

    Isn’t this about the ideal process of maturity, separating our feelings from real meanings and values as we acquire them? Children don’t have anything but feelings.
    It takes my mind to paper 16.6 – the cosmic intuitions.

  10. Isn’t this about the ideal process of maturity, separating our feelings from real meanings and values as we acquire them? Children don’t have anything but feelings.

    I guess it depends on how you look at it.  Certainly real meanings and values generate feelings within us that can’t and shouldn’t be overlooked, such as feelings of compassion, brotherhood, love, assurance, and feelings of service toward our fellows.

    157:2.2 And when the feelings of service for your fellow men arise within your soul, do not stifle them; when the emotions of love for your neighbor well up within your heart, give expression to such urges of affection in intelligent ministry to the real needs of your fellows.

     

  11. I hoped this topic would bring a wide loop of multiple topics to consider and integrate in our pursuit of understanding Paper 100.  So far, so good…and thanks for your participation and considerations.  Again, feel free to move forward, back, or sideways during this topic to ask questions, clarify concepts, and shed additional light on the many issues presented in text.  As is usual when studying the UB, what comes next so often clarifies and specifies issues just read….it has always impressed me how the authors wrote in such a way as to both anticipate questions and lead the mind to questions like bread crumbs through the forest of discovery!  After thusly seeing enough trees, the forest is revealed!

    100:1.5 (1094.7) The soil essential for religious growth presupposes a progressive life of self-realization, the co-ordination of natural propensities, the exercise of curiosity and the enjoyment of reasonable adventure, the experiencing of feelings of satisfaction, the functioning of the fear stimulus of attention and awareness, the wonder-lure, and a normal consciousness of smallness, humility. Growth is also predicated on the discovery of selfhood accompanied by self-criticism — conscience, for conscience is really the criticism of oneself by one’s own value-habits, personal ideals.

    100:1.6 (1095.1) Religious experience is markedly influenced by physical health, inherited temperament, and social environment. But these temporal conditions do not inhibit inner spiritual progress by a soul dedicated to the doing of the will of the Father in heaven. There are present in all normal mortals certain innate drives toward growth and self-realization which function if they are not specifically inhibited. The certain technique of fostering this constitutive endowment of the potential of spiritual growth is to maintain an attitude of wholehearted devotion to supreme values.

    100:1.7 (1095.2) Religion cannot be bestowed, received, loaned, learned, or lost. It is a personal experience which grows proportionally to the growing quest for final values. Cosmic growth thus attends on the accumulation of meanings and the ever-expanding elevation of values. But nobility itself is always an unconscious growth.

    I think 1.5 above teaches us that the very “discovery of selfhood”….the yearn and curiosity and wonder lure and the joys of discovery and learning and growth itself is the beginning, perhaps, of the desire for the branch to attach itself to the vine…to connect to the very source of all these feelings.  And by such a connection and experience does the fruit begin to appear on the branch.  Notice how humility and self criticism come into play….the very antithesis of prejudice.  The branch grows increasingly loyal to the vine I think, especially when the fruits of the Spirit deliver happiness, contentment, patience, kindness, joy….to be shared in loving service….which further strengthens the branch and grows ever more fruit.  The growth of wisdom by such experience only adds to the strength of the branch.

    According to my understanding, it also grows and strengthens the vine…as represented by the Supreme who also grows as all the fruit on all the branches grows too.

    “…innate drives…function….if not specifically inhibited….”

    Indeed!

     

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  12. Quote 1.5 also mentions the soil for spiritual growth presupposes “the functioning of the fear stimulus of attention and awareness”.

    Do you think that’s what Jesus meant by appealing to the emotions as explained below?

    (1705.4) 152:6.4 Jesus taught the appeal to the emotions as the technique of arresting and focusing the intellectual attention. He designated the mind thus aroused and quickened as the gateway to the soul, where there resides that spiritual nature of man which must recognize truth and respond to the spiritual appeal of the gospel in order to afford the permanent results of true character transformations.

     

  13. As the paper is about growth and progress I’d like to try to include progress.
    Isn’t it true that progress (change) happens coincident with growth? Isn’t progress “actualizing” spirit realities?
    I think 100:3.5 talks about true change?
    And how change without growth is valueless?
    Backing up to paper 99:1.1 we are informed that if we impose change that reflects our cosmic ignorance that potential evil can be “actualized”. I think this happens way too much now days, secular humanism and politics are guilty of this don’t you think?(got to invent a fascist style word for this sort of relationship)
    We are told that we cannot cause growth so how does it happen? Doesn’t it start by wholehearted devotion to doing Gods will while at the same time getting the mind in sync with the Mother ministry? But it also must involve our personalities, our physical brains, our minds, and our relationships??
    So what really is involved with actualizing spirit realities and can we recognize when it happens? Is the associated (real) change the indicator?
    I’d venture to say that it feels good when it happens at least. That feel good described as supreme subjective satisfaction.
    This revelation about the true nature of religion smacks of change and implies required growth.

  14. Quote 1.5 also mentions the soil for spiritual growth presupposes “the functioning of the fear stimulus of attention and awareness”. Do you think that’s what Jesus meant by appealing to the emotions as explained below? (1705.4) 152:6.4 Jesus taught the appeal to the emotions as the technique of arresting and focusing the intellectual attention. He designated the mind thus aroused and quickened as the gateway to the soul, where there resides that spiritual nature of man which must recognize truth and respond to the spiritual appeal of the gospel in order to afford the permanent results of true character transformations.

    I can see the parallel here, since fear is a material emotion which definitely tends to focus the intellectual attention. Quote 1.5 also says:

    Growth is also predicated on the discovery of selfhood accompanied by self-criticism — conscience, for conscience is really the criticism of oneself by one’s own value-habits, personal ideals.

    Conscience embraces our personal moral values. It is an evolutionary authority which expresses itself emotionally. Generally, we are afraid of going against our conscience, which judges us (criticizes us) when we do not do the right thing, when we fail to live up to our perceived moral duty. The conscience can arouse fear, focusing the intellectual attention upon a moral value, a fact which the ancient prophets knew and employed. But the conscience arouses other feelings than fear; it also reacts with a positive emotion of righteousness when we do what we believe is our duty, as judged by our personal code of moral conduct. 

    I think Jesus may be referring to the emotional arousal of the conscience as the evolutionary gateway to the morontia soul. We are told that while the conscience admonishes us to do right, it is not the voice of the Adjuster to the soul. “Conscience is not a divine voice speaking to the human soul.” (92:2.6) But it does seem that the path to the spirit Adjuster is through the moral conscience; it is the gateway thereto.

    “My disciples must not only cease to do evil but learn to do well; you must not only be cleansed from all conscious sin, but you must refuse to harbor even the feelings of guilt. If you confess your sins, they are forgiven; therefore must you maintain a conscience void of offense.” (156:2.7)

  15. So what really is involved with actualizing spirit realities and can we recognize when it happens? Is the associated (real) change the indicator?

    I think if you’re worried too much about this, you’re too focused on yourself and your performance.  Real spiritual progress has more to do with recognizing your own smallness along with a desire for greater perfection, which I think, naturally turns into more service, more foot-washing. I’d also say that if you’re growing in your ability to discover, recognize, interpret and choose truth, beauty and goodness, you’re becoming less self-centered and more loving. I’ll say from my own experience that if I’m always giving thanks, it’s much easier to see truth, beauty and goodness. Discovery is how it starts and I don’t think you can do much discovering if you’re focused on your performance.  That would be like burying the talent.

    100:2.1 Spiritual progress is predicated on intellectual recognition of spiritual poverty coupled with the self-consciousness of perfection-hunger, the desire to know God and be like him, the wholehearted purpose to do the will of the Father in heaven.

    100:2.4 Spirituality becomes at once the indicator of one’s nearness to God and the measure of one’s usefulness to fellow beings. Spirituality enhances the ability to discover beauty in things, recognize truth in meanings, and discover goodness in values. Spiritual development is determined by capacity therefor and is directly proportional to the elimination of the selfish qualities of love.

     

     

     

  16. I think Jesus may be referring to the emotional arousal of the conscience as the evolutionary gateway to the morontia soul. We are told that while the conscience admonishes us to do right, it is not the voice of the Adjuster to the soul. “Conscience is not a divine voice speaking to the human soul.” (92:2.6) But it does seem that the path to the spirit Adjuster is through the moral conscience; it is the gateway thereto.

    Yes, definitely.  The spirits of worship and wisdom are concerned with moral judgment and doing the wise thing. Fear of doing the wrong thing is how religion gets started. It opens the gateway to help from “above”.   Of course, we’re supposed to move from fear to love, from duty to joy of service.  I think that’s the maturing process of spiritual growth and progress.  The incentive for keeping the gateway open may begin with fear, but it quickly moves to perfection hunger once we realize that Deity is contactable, that there really is a divine voice and we recognize him as a loving Father.  Not enough people seem to get past the fear/guilt thing though, but I could be wrong.

  17. Backing up to paper 99:1.1 we are informed that if we impose change that reflects our cosmic ignorance that potential evil can be “actualized”.

    I am not understanding the reference or the text regarding evil becoming actualized.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  18. Backing up to paper 99:1.1 we are informed that if we impose change that reflects our cosmic ignorance that potential evil can be “actualized”.

    I am not understanding the reference or the text regarding evil becoming actualized.

    Dang, another quoting snaffu.
    I’ll try again to piece together my thoughts:
    First, to me paper 100 is about growth and progress, the real thing. The quote below is where I get the idea ( my idea, sorry) of the possiblity of actualizing potential evil.
    From 101:3.5
    Change without growth, expansion of meaning and exaltation of value, is valueless—is potential evil

    And the quote below gives good example of typical the potential evils we face in modern society: although the author did not use the words “potential evil” I took the liberty of interpreting the given examples that way.
    From 99:1.1
    Mechanical inventions and the dissemination of knowledge are modifying civilization; certain economic adjustments and social changes are imperative if cultural disaster is to be avoided.
    It’s no t too much of a stretch to associate actuated potential evil with cultural disaster is it??

    Our goal as religionists should be to grow and bring about progress. Progress that migrated from ourselves to our brothers and sisters. We cannot cause growth but we can supply favorable conditions.
    Real progress follows real growth.
    The self serving phony stuff I tried to explain above and self serving phony growth seems to me to be rampant today. Another way of describing self serving phony growth is the act of actualizing potential evil.
    Sorry if this is confusing.

  19. Greetings Gene!!

    I do think I understand your point…but I’m going to quibble and split a hair here to add precision in terminology (or add confusion…hahaha) based on the term “actualized”.

    It is my understanding that evil/error, sin, and/or iniquity cannot be actualized in reality because it has no reality content.  That which can be eventuated or actualized must come forth from truth, beauty, and goodness.  Evil/error does have localized repercussions and I think that’s what you are talking about….but such repercussions are temporal and not actualized.  That includes all things material as well.

    The repercussions of evil and sin are real enough to be sure and are reflected in our personal lives and in society collectively so I don’t mean to dispute that at all.  Thanks for contributing to the discussion and study!

    A link to keyword search for actualized OR actualizing:

    https://urassoc.arko.nyc/search/?zoom_sort=2&zoom_query=actualized+OR+actualizing&zoom_per_page=50&zoom_and=0&zoom_cat%5B%5D=-1

    And for actualize:

    https://urassoc.arko.nyc/search/?zoom_sort=2&zoom_query=actualize&zoom_per_page=50&zoom_and=0&zoom_cat%5B%5D=-1

    By the way the terms actualize, actualized, and actualization are very relevant to the Paper and topic being discussed here.  The process of spiritization and Circle Progress (Religion in Human Experience) is to become actualized….from potential to real, from temporal to eternal!!

    :good:

    104:4.43 [Part III]
    The Conjoint Actor universally integrates the varying functional aspects of all actualized reality on all levels of manifestation, from finites through transcendentals and on to absolutes. The Universal Absolute perfectly compensates the differentials inherent in the varying aspects of all incomplete reality, from the limitless potentialities of active-volitional and causative Deity reality to the boundless possibilities of static, reactive, nondeity reality in the incomprehensible domains of the Unqualified Absolute.

    117:5.4 [Part III]
    In the eternal future, God the Supreme will be actualized — creatively expressed and spiritually portrayed — in the spiritualized mind, the immortal soul, of ascendant man, even as the Universal Father was so revealed in the earth life of Jesus.

    117:5.6 [Part III]
    The progressing personality leaves a trail of actualized reality as it passes through the ascending levels of the universes. Be they mind, spirit, or energy, the growing creations of time and space are modified by the progression of personality through their domains. When man acts, the Supreme reacts, and this transaction constitutes the fact of progression.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  20. Here’s a quote which explains actual, or actualized evil:

    (1435.6) 130:4.14 Potential evil is inherent in the necessary incompleteness of the revelation of God as a time-space-limited expression of infinity and eternity. The fact of the partial in the presence of the complete constitutes relativity of reality, creates necessity for intellectual choosing, and establishes value levels of spirit recognition and response. The incomplete and finite concept of the Infinite which is held by the temporal and limited creature mind is, in and of itself, potential evil. But the augmenting error of unjustified deficiency in reasonable spiritual rectification of these originally inherent intellectual disharmonies and spiritual insufficiencies, is equivalent to the realization of actual evil.

    The word “realization” is important.  Evil can be actualized  but it has no value in reality and therefore is not eternal.  God allows potential evil to persist as an actual according to the laws of mercy.  I think it’s part of evolution of the imperfect to the perfected.

     

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