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The Master's Parables

314 posts · 12 participants · started Feb 5, 2015, 9:48 PM

  1. Bradly wrote: May one sow good seed accidentally or without good intent?
    Is that a rhetorical question?  If not, I’d say that intentions are paramount.  They must be sincere. They may not always be wise, but they must be sincere.  However, sincere seed sowing is not planned out, orchestrated or premeditated.  So in a way, it can be considered accidental, sort of as you pass by.  I think this is demonstrated by the second half of this parable which is more enigmatic.
    151:3.15 Before he dismissed the group for the night, Jesus said: “Now will I tell you the last of the parable of the sower. I would test you to know how you will receive this: The kingdom of heaven is also like a man who cast good seed upon the earth; and while he slept by night and went about his business by day, the seed sprang up and grew, and although he knew not how it came about, the plant came to fruit. First there was the blade, then the ear, then the full grain in the ear. And then when the grain was ripe, he put forth the sickle, and the harvest was finished. He who has an ear to hear, let him hear.”
    My guess is that the part where he says, ” . . . while he slept by night and went about his business by day,” is at the crux of it all. We know that growth is unconscious; we know that we should let the Spirit of Truth do his own work; we know that the effort is ours but the consequences are God’s; and, we know that we don’t really know how it all comes about.  We really don’t know the true effect of our seed sowing as it ripples through the universe.  And it doesn’t matter really. If we are living loyally, as in the presence of God at all times, then the seeds of our spiritual fruit will naturally be sown, but it is not our concern what happens afterwards.  And if we try to micromanage this process of seed-sowing, it will not end well because it becomes our work instead of God’s work.  I always bristle when people tell me they’re doing God’s work.  “Oh really,” I think to myself, “better to let God do his own work and you stay out of his way. Go sleep by night and do your business by day and let God grow the fruit the way he wants to grow it.”
  2. Bradly wrote: May one sow good seed accidentally or without good intent?
    Is that a rhetorical question? If not, I’d say that intentions are paramount. They must be sincere. They may not always be wise, but they must be sincere. However, sincere seed sowing is not planned out, orchestrated or premeditated. So in a way, it can be considered accidental, sort of as you pass by.
    I think sowing good seed can be accidental and even done without favorable intent.  A UB example that comes to mind is an anecdote I heard of a fan of Martin Gardner who read his scathing book “Urantia: The Great Cult Mystery”, and found the quotes of the Urantia Book interesting enough despite the context that he found a copy for himself and went on to become a reader. Not sure of the veracity but it’s not hard to imagine having happened.

    If the seed is good, and the soil is good, then the original intent — positive, negative, or indifferent — that led to the seed ending up in the soil seems to have little to do with the growth that naturally results.

  3. Good point tas.  But Martin Gardner’s intent was sincere.  Unwise maybe, but sincere nevertheless. It’s just proof that God does do his own work.  He can make lemonade out of lemons if he wants.

  4. Good point tas.  But Martin Gardner’s intent was sincere.  Unwise maybe, but sincere nevertheless. It’s just proof that God does do his own work.  He make lemonade out of lemons if he wants.

    But we can know nothing of intent or wisdom of another.

  5. The part Jesus added to the Parable of the Sower, the one where the sower slept by night and went about his business by day, was also a parable belonging to “the kingdom of heaven is like  . . . ” group.  The next day Jesus added another kingdom of heaven parable using the sower:

    151:4.1 The next day Jesus again taught the people from the boat, saying: “The kingdom of heaven is like a man who sowed good seed in his field; but while he slept, his enemy came and sowed weeds among the wheat and hastened away. And so when the young blades sprang up and later were about to bring forth fruit, there appeared also the weeds. Then the servants of this householder came and said to him: ‘Sir, did you not sow good seed in your field? Whence then come these weeds?’ And he replied to his servants, ‘An enemy has done this.’ The servants then asked their master, ‘Would you have us go out and pluck up these weeds?’ But he answered them and said: ‘No, lest while you are gathering them up, you uproot the wheat also. Rather let them both grow together until the time of the harvest, when I will say to the reapers, Gather up first the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn and then gather up the wheat to be stored in my barn.’”

    So truth seekers have enemies then? Gees, who would have thunk it?  Those living within the kingdom of heaven have to put up with evil doers who sow the weeds of untruth.  Yet the Master says that those evil weeds must continue to exist along side the good wheat until the harvest lest the good ones get damaged.   Is there punishment for the evil weed sower himself, or only his deeds?  We’re not told in this parable, but we know that, “within every sin is concealed the seed of its own destruction.” (53:9.8)

     

  6. Here’s another quote about weeds:

    131:3.6 Love of self is like weeds in a goodly field.

  7. So truth seekers have enemies then? Gees, who would have thunk it?  Those living within the kingdom of heaven have to put up with evil doers who sow the weeds of untruth.

    The problem is that who can discern the wheat form the weeds without judgement? Jesus said,’who an I to judge?”.

    Who are you that you can judge? LOVE your enemies. Put up with you brother, but more, love your brother.

    Till the harvest comes, there can be no judgement.

  8. So truth seekers have enemies then? Gees, who would have thunk it? Those living within the kingdom of heaven have to put up with evil doers who sow the weeds of untruth. Yet the Master says that those evil weeds must continue to exist along side the good wheat until the harvest lest the good ones get damaged. Is there punishment for the evil weed sower himself, or only his deeds? We’re not told in this parable, but we know that, “within every sin is concealed the seed of its own destruction.” (53:9.8)

    Isn’t the lack of peace and the state of anxiety enough punishment?  There is no “balance sheet” of justice as in the Book of Judgment taught me in my youth.  The punishment of evil and of sin both lie within the mind and the vicissitudes suffered by a lack of faith and love response just as the rewards for faith and love are similar in how the mind is thusly affected by these free will choices (both the punishment and the reward are but the responses experienced and the further effects of either choice upon future choices – there is no need for judge and jury to verify those results that are intrinsic and inevitable to both sets of choices made).  So, yes there is “punishment” but it is not administered upon us by any third party or even God I do not think – all beings suffer to the degree they are not aligned with universe reality and spirit gravity….and that alignment is always up to the choice of every free will being in time and space.

    And I know we are taught that all is recorded for our further education to come but God does not punish evil or the evil doer for evil does not exist in spirit-reality – its consequences are for education of self to assist in the shifting of the seat of identity – and such consequences are relentless and persist until better choices are made…..at least until so many consciously bad choices twist the self into reality irrelevance that we cannot perceive the better way any longer I think.

    (1674.5) 149:5.3 “Much of man’s sorrow is born of the disappointment of his ambitions and the wounding of his pride. Although men owe a duty to themselves to make the best of their lives on earth, having thus sincerely exerted themselves, they should cheerfully accept their lot and exercise ingenuity in making the most of that which has fallen to their hands. All too many of man’s troubles take origin in the fear soil of his own natural heart. ‘The wicked flee when no man pursues.’ ‘The wicked are like the troubled sea, for it cannot rest, but its waters cast up mire and dirt; there is no peace, says God, for the wicked.’

    The lack of peace is designed to be the motivation FOR peace…..and not truly punishment I don’t think.  God has no interest in punishments but for the voluntary pursuit of TB&G resulting in sublime joy.  This is a self modulating and correcting process – the more aligned we are the better everything is and becomes and vice versa.  We must pay attention to our outcomes and how those make us feel and thereby make better choices and align our behaviors with reality…and when the fruit comes, we may know it is by those better choices that they do so.

    (1674.6) 149:5.4 “Seek not, then, for false peace and transient joy but rather for the assurance of faith and the sureties of divine sonship which yield composure, contentment, and supreme joy in the spirit.”

    (1176.5) 107:0.5 It is the Adjuster who creates within man that unquenchable yearning and incessant longing to be like God, to attain Paradise, and there before the actual person of Deity to worship the infinite source of the divine gift.

    I have wondered if this yearning diminishes over time by our refusal to respond to it?  We are told in the parables that the kingdom is like the treasure in the field and the pearl of great price which seems to say it must be our heart’s desire, its greatest desire of all.  What if it’s not?  Is one who does not hear and respond to the whisper in their mortal life really to be an agondontor if they survive but did not yearn and seek and find prior to the rehabilitation and training worlds?  Finaliter status is for all who eventually fuse but I wonder about the finaliter agondontor corps?

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  9. both the punishment and the reward are but the responses experienced and the further effects of either choice upon future choices – there is no need for judge and jury to verify those results that are intrinsic and inevitable to both sets of choices made).

    Does this apply to Gabriel vs Lucifer?

    So, yes there is “punishment” but it is not administered upon us by any third party or even God I do not think –

    Who do you think plugs in the juice on the electric chair when a being is annihilated? Is there an assisted suicide? Does the condemned slash their own wrists?

    And I know we are taught that all is recorded for our further education to come but God does not punish evil or the evil doer for evil does not exist in spirit-reality

    If evil does not exists then why does paper 54 exist?

  10. Bradly wrote: Isn’t the lack of peace and the state of anxiety enough punishment?   . . .  The punishment of evil and of sin both lie within the mind and the vicissitudes suffered by a lack of faith and love response  . . . .
    The only way an evil mind can punish itself is if it has a conscience, a sense of guilt, a certain amount of remorse or contrition.  The conscience is the forum where moral contests are debated within the mind; the place where the lower nature is at odds with its higher nature; the arena where the perplexities of the moral nature are worked out; the place where the seeds of decisions concerning spirit dominance begin to germinate.  If this struggle never takes place, there is no conflict, and the mind is at peace with itself.
    We have been told that individuals living entirely on the level of the lower nature and those living entirely on the level of the spiritual nature experience no such conflict or confusion.  Only those who concern themselves with matters of right and wrong suffer from these things.
    159:3.7 Forewarn all believers regarding the fringe of conflict which must be traversed by all who pass from the life as it is lived in the flesh to the higher life as it is lived in the spirit. To those who live quite wholly within either realm, there is little conflict or confusion, but all are doomed to experience more or less uncertainty during the times of transition between the two levels of living.
    An evil person who never bothers to take into account the consequences of his/her actions on others, is a person without a conscience, is an antisocial person.  An antisocial person is one whose soul is drying up and ceasing to exist.  However, the personality continues to exist despite it all, wreaking havoc and chaos on others, all the while in complete psychic comfort.  These are the people we are told, that as a society, we must learn to identify and control.  Group justice.  (51:4.8)
  11. Yes, and we are given fair warning as to this “response” or lack thereof:

    (483.12) 42:12.12 On a material world you think of a body as having a spirit, but we regard the spirit as having a body. The material eyes are truly the windows of the spirit-born soul. The spirit is the architect, the mind is the builder, the body is the material building.

    (484.3) 42:12.15 Mind universally dominates matter, even as it is in turn responsive to the ultimate overcontrol of spirit. And with mortal man, only that mind which freely submits itself to the spirit direction can hope to survive the mortal time-space existence as an immortal child of the eternal spirit world of the Supreme, the Ultimate, and the Absolute: the Infinite.

    Makes me wonder about those who know right from wrong but do not choose the right way.  Evil is error.  When does it become more than that?  Jesus gave the first and great commandment….ALL our might….and the second requires the first….love one another as God loves us.  Being love responsive is something even a tadpole can accomplish by simple sincerity and faith.

    Bonita, you said an evil mind is only punished by conscience but I would counter that an evil mind is plagued by doubt, fear, uncertainty, anger, blame, and unhappiness – the fruit or result of such a mind which tastes bitter enough to such ones regardless of their awareness of this cause and effect or their feelings of any guilt or remorse.  The suffering may lead one to change….or not.  But if not, I would suggest that the suffering consequences do indeed get worse and worse.  Or until new intentions, motives, priorities, and choices come by way of the illumination of spirit in mind.  I don’t think most people really get their own responsibility for their situation and experience in that situation.  And thus, the Master taught us the importance of our yearning for and loyalty to the Spirit within…..a treasure.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  12. Bradly wrote: Bonita, you said an evil mind is only punished by conscience but I would counter that an evil mind is plagued by doubt, fear, uncertainty, anger, blame, and unhappiness – the fruit or result of such a mind which tastes bitter enough to such ones regardless of their awareness of this cause and effect or their feelings of any guilt or remorse.

    Do you know what antisocial personalities are?  They are not unhappy people.  They are never uncertain about themselves.  They are not plagued by anything except the need to dominate their will over others.  They are essentially without souls – the walking dead.  But they do not feel that way.  They feel like the most important personalities in the cosmos.  And they only feel anger when other’s don’t cater to their will.  They do not doubt themselves at all.  There is nothing to doubt if you’re the center of the universe, a living god in your own mind.  Do you think that Lucifer is plagued by doubt, fear, uncertainty, anger, blame or unhappiness?  No.  Not even a tiny trace of any of it. Not one iota.  Antisocial people are just like Lucifer.

    Bradly wrote: The suffering may lead one to change….or not.  But if not, I would suggest that the suffering consequences do indeed get worse and worse.

    These people do not suffer and do not change.  They make others suffer and change in order to suit their desires.  Their desires are all that is important.  That’s what happens when you’re the only one in the cosmos; your needs are the only ones that matter.

    Bradly wrote: Or until new intentions, motives, priorities, and choices come by way of the illumination of spirit in mind.

    These people do not have a spirit within.  They are vacuous.  Their insides are filled with only themselves.  There is nothing there to illuminate them except their own perverse ideas which shine ever brighter all the time.  Dazzled by their own light.  Isn’t that a fair description of Lucifer?  Antisocial people are no different.  He has been described for us in order that we might be able to recognize his ilk in the flesh.

  13. So, happiness can be delusional?  A form of self satisfaction?  And therefor a blinding form of perspective that does not allow inner turmoil or conflict?

    The only source of conflict comes when someone refuses to give the antisocial ones what they want.  Then they manipulate the situation to make it look like they are victims of the other person’s unwillingness to either make them happy or allow them to be happy.  They whine and wail about being denied their freedom of self-expression until the other party feels so guilty they go against their own better judgment and become enablers.

    It’s like a professional orchestra where the saxophone player keeps insisting on launching into a solo jazz riff right in the middle of the Mozart Requiem. It just doesn’t work.  But he feels he has a right of creative self-expression, and this is the music he feels at the moment.  Any self-respecting maestro would kick his butt out, but if there was enough screaming and hollering about rights, and maybe two or three others join in, then what is a maestro to do?  He could wait until there are no more paying customers and the rest of the orchestra quits in disgust until he says to himself, “My God, what have I done?”  Or he could just stick to his principles and get rid of the jerk  who really has no interest at all in the orchestra anyway.

    So yeah.  These people do not have inner turmoil.  They create outer turmoil which they then blame on others.  That’s how it works. Maybe you have to live with someone like this in order to recognize it for what it is.  I’ve known more than my share of weed sowers in my life and they don’t fool me anymore.

  14. Remember this one?  On  the surface this seems counter-intuitive when Jesus said, “Remember that I have many times told you: To him who has shall be given more, while from him who has not shall be taken away even that which he thinks he has.”

     

     

  15. Do you know what antisocial personalities are?  They are not unhappy people.  They are never uncertain about themselves.  They are not plagued by anything except the need to dominate their will over others.  They are essentially without souls – the walking dead.

    Here is another very appropriate psychological term, PROJECTION.

    Psychological projection is a theory in psychology in which humans defend themselves against unpleasant impulses by denying their existence in themselves, while attributing them to others.[1] For example, a person who is rude may constantly accuse other people of being rude.

  16. Bonita, you said an evil mind is only punished by conscience but I would counter that an evil mind is plagued by doubt, fear, uncertainty, anger, blame, and unhappiness – the fruit or result of such a mind which tastes bitter enough to such ones regardless of their awareness of this cause and effect or their feelings of any guilt or remorse.  The suffering may lead one to change….or not.  But if not, I would suggest that the suffering consequences do indeed get worse and worse.  Or until new intentions, motives, priorities, and choices come by way of the illumination of spirit in mind.  I don’t think most people really get their own responsibility for their situation and experience in that situation.  And thus, the Master taught us the importance of our yearning for and loyalty to the Spirit within…..a treasure.

    It seems, Bonita, that you have great knowledge of BOTH GOOD AND EVIL.

    You attempt vigorously to mix them both in what you have written of late.

    You stir the cauldron of oil and water furiously but to no avail. Reality and unreality do not mix.

    Are you eating of the forbidden fruit? If so, spit it out and purge your system, the soul cannot digest it.

  17. Mara wrote: Remember this one?  On  the surface this seems counter-intuitive when Jesus said, “Remember that I have many times told you: To him who has shall be given more, while from him who has not shall be taken away even that which he thinks he has.”

    I do remember that one.  It is part of many of the Master’s parables.  On the surface it seems unfair but it really isn’t.  It’s a universal law of inheritance.  Once you accept sonship, you inherit the whole shebang.  Denying or rejecting sonship results in loosing the whole shebang; you get no inheritance at all.  It’s about the parts and the whole.

  18. Not including the two parables about the sower, I count six more analogies about the kingdom of heaven.  Jesus liked using analogies for reasons stated in the quotes below:

    151:3.3 He emphasized the value of utilizing the analogy existing between the natural and the spiritual worlds as a means of teaching truth. He frequently alluded to the natural as “the unreal and fleeting shadow of spirit realities.

    151:3.9 To reject the truth contained in parabolical analogy requires conscious intellectual action which is directly in contempt of one’s honest judgment and fair decision.

    Incidentally, I think honest judgment, mentioned in the above quote, is part of sincerity. One’s genuine feelings may be sincere even though misguided. The rejection of truth can sometimes come from genuine doubt and confusion. But that is another topic altogether.  Putting that aside, Jesus used examples from the natural world to describe the kingdom of heaven as:

    • a mustard seed (151:4.2)
    • leaven in bread (151:4.3)
    • a treasure hidden in a field (151:4.4)
    • a merchant seeking goodly pearls (151:4.5)
    • a sweep net (151:4.6)

    There is one other “the kingdom of heaven is like” parable, the one about the laborers in the vineyard (163:3.5).  I was thinking of handling that separately, later on.  So where should we begin with these parables? Obviously Jesus had an in-depth multidimensional understanding of the kingdom of heaven since he was able to come up with so many analogies.  We’re told, when attempting to interpret a parable, to come up with one central truth. The first thing that comes to my mind is that the kingdom of heaven is is the realization of the value of having the presence of God within one’s soul.

  19. The Kingdom of Heaven involves membership!  We’d be wise to desire such membership.  It’s only fee is YES!  Too simple, yes, but decisions to opt in by faith and subsequent faithful decisions to maintain are what sustains membership.  Membership in a vast Father Enterprise seems like the ultimate choice to the Father for man and other ascending class beings!

    Hearing the Master’s Parables inspires “yes” answers!

     

  20. It seems, Bonita, that you have great knowledge of BOTH GOOD AND EVIL. You attempt vigorously to mix them both in what you have written of late. You stir the cauldron of oil and water furiously but to no avail. Reality and unreality do not mix. Are you eating of the forbidden fruit? If so, spit it out and purge your system, the soul cannot digest it.

     

    You continue to insult, demean, and personalize your pronouncements as though you think YOU have sufficient standing and wisdom and JUDGEMENT to continue this peculiar behavior of belittlement and imperious instructions…..even Gabriel has not escaped your instructions, criticisms, and admonishments…as though you have that right….or ability.  Your tone, attitude, and words are beyond the pale and but exemplify a belief in your own superiority.  Please stay on topic or leave it alone.   Thanks.

    :-(

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

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