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Growth part 3

88 posts · 7 participants · started Dec 17, 2016, 9:44 PM

  1. Wonderful conversation, sharing….and teaching…thank you.  I also do not worry overmuch about the wisdom or effects or immediate value of my service and love ministries…the Revelation has convinced me that it is the sincerity of motive, intent, and acts which are “valued” and the wisdom of those choices and acts will grow over time and by experience.  I think most of our “work” in the spirit realms has to do first with this sincerity of intent and our comfort with the uncertainties of what-arrives-next on the pilgrim’s path and what the results-might-be by our choices.  I think this has to do with our desire to align our will with God’s will – which has little enough to do with the material results and everything to do with the motive within.  Such a yearning to love and serve God and our fellows will always eventuate into greater wisdom by the experience of success and error in our strategies and tactics.  It’s not the strategies and tactics and results that grow soul into its destiny potential of fusion, it is I think the intensity and consistency of the “yearn” for the Spirit and the “response” to the Spirit that propels us forward into growth.

    102:3.4 (1121.6) Religious desire is the hunger quest for divine reality. Religious experience is the realization of the consciousness of having found God. And when a human being does find God, there is experienced within the soul of that being such an indescribable restlessness of triumph in discovery that he is impelled to seek loving service-contact with his less illuminated fellows, not to disclose that he has found God, but rather to allow the overflow of the welling-up of eternal goodness within his own soul to refresh and ennoble his fellows. Real religion leads to increased social service.

    Bonita…I would love to hear more about the soul being separate and different from “me”.  I believe this…that I am one of the “parents” of my soul but it is a newer concept to me…my soul, this child of eternity potential, receives from me its non-material “genetic” materials that results from my yearning, choosing, growing, and doing?  And that combined with the TA’s contributions of eternal value?   But our soul is also “alive” and grows by integrating and collating all that is experienced by its “parents” that is of a real and eternal nature?

    You may have already presented this….sorry but I am very busy recently…but following as I can.  Thanks again.

    Bradly

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  2. Bradly wrote:  . . . I am very busy recently…

    Yeah! Well hello! It’s Christmas for crying out loud.  It’s all about being busy (tongue in cheek).  Anyway, I wish you and yours a very happy Christmas even though it is a Mithraic  holiday co-opted by the Church to satisfy the pagans.  It’s not without its symbolism however, so I like it.

    Bradly wrote:I would love to hear more about the soul being separate and different from “me”.
    I’m sure you recall the definition of the soul in 0:5.10 which states that it is a new reality. If it’s something new it can’t be something that you are at the time of its creation.  The “me” that mothered the soul cannot be the soul, not during the life in the flesh.  Of course, after death things change, but for this discussion let’s say we’re only talking about this initial life and not the next.
    I think we already understand that your sense of self, your “me-ness” changes as you grow.  The sense of selfhood is something that is transferrable. It’s called your identity and it represents the summation of your parts unified by your personality.  Obviously, soul is one of your parts, but until you recognize and identify with it, it is separate from your sense of “me-ness”.  Once the soul grows to a certain point, which we’re told it does in and of itself, your sense of “me-ness” begins to recognize it and add it to the summation of parts.  Once the personality succeeds in unifying this new part, it can be said that identity has begun the transfer process.
    Bradly wrote: . . . this child of eternity potential, receives from me its non-material “genetic” materials that results from my yearning, choosing, growing, and doing?
    I think the soul does receive your material genetic substance since the material mind is its mother. The woof of morontia is physical (0:5.12). If you’re talking about actual physical chromosomes though, I’ll say no.  But the character that results from those chromosomes, the genetic traits that color your personality, are transferred to the soul, but only after being spiritualized (or spiritized . . . can’t make up my mind how that goes).  In other words, made divine, given that extra sparkle that tags something as worth keeping for eternity.  It’s your material thoughts and actions that provide one component to the morontia level of reality in the individual soul.
    Bradly wrote:But our soul is also “alive” and grows by integrating and collating all that is experienced by its “parents” that is of a real and eternal nature?
    Will address this later.  To be honest, I’m not 100% sure how the soul grows in and of itself and what this “life” it has on its own is all about.  Perhaps we’ll solve it together.  But later . . . I’m at the park working on a hotspot that keeps going in and out.  Have fun until then.
  3. (1209.3) 110:6.3 The psychic circles are not exclusively intellectual, neither are they wholly morontial; they have to do with personality status, mind attainment, soul growth, and Adjuster attunement. The successful traversal of these levels demands the harmonious functioning of the entire personality, not merely of some one phase thereof. The growth of the parts does not equal the true maturation of the whole; the parts really grow in proportion to the expansion of the entire self — the whole self — material, intellectual, and spiritual.

    (1209.4) 110:6.4 When the development of the intellectual nature proceeds faster than that of the spiritual, such a situation renders communication with the Thought Adjuster both difficult and dangerous. Likewise, overspiritual development tends to produce a fanatical and perverted interpretation of the spirit leadings of the divine indweller. Lack of spiritual capacity makes it very difficult to transmit to such a material intellect the spiritual truths resident in the higher superconsciousness. It is to the mind of perfect poise, housed in a body of clean habits, stabilized neural energies, and balanced chemical function — when the physical, mental, and spiritual powers are in triune harmony of development — that a maximum of light and truth can be imparted with a minimum of temporal danger or risk to the real welfare of such a being. By such a balanced growth does man ascend the circles of planetary progression one by one, from the seventh to the first.

  4. Okay . . . sorry to blather on, but this is my most favorite subject in the whole world other than my kids, whom I can also talk endlessly about given the chance . . . .  So, now that I’m inside out of the cold and enjoying the blessings of a hot wassail (with a just a whisper of rum, honest), it occurs to me that I’ve forgotten to mention some very key elements.

    Souls are separate entities with their own lives.  Yes, we are attached to them, but only if we choose and to the degree with which we choose. The soul dies only if there is nothing to nourish it.  If it is abandoned by its material parent, it will eventually die.  Anything worthwhile  will stay with its spiritual parent.  And I think that is because the spiritual parent never abandons anything or anyone. It’s always the other way around.  God holds on.  He’s dependable that way.

    When I think of a soul having its own life, I think of the embryo.  The embryo is separate from both the mother and father yet relies on the mother for nourishment for growth.  In the case of the human embryo, the father contributes indirectly to growth through the yolk sac, but that’s getting into the weeds and not pertinent to the story.  What I’m trying to say is that the human embryo is entirely different than both its parents, it is unique, and it will grow all by itself as long as there is some source of nourishment.  I’m thinking the soul will do that as well whether or not we are conscious of our material contribution or the Adjuster’s spiritual contribution.

    What is this power of life within the soul?  I don’t know, but I think it is in everything created.  They tell us that life renders systems capable of self-perpetuation (118:7.6).  When you add personality to the mix, you get self-directiveness, the ability to choose a direction in which to grow, or not grow, as it were (118:7.6).  I believe the soul has life and is therefore capable of self-perpetuation, but how it does that, I cannot say for sure.  I can only surmise. (And you know I will, you can rely on it, wassail or not.)

    I’m guessing the soul self-perpetuates by fostering a hunger for both spiritual potentials and material actuals to come together and add to its growth and well being.  Like a newborn who has a naturally irritating cry when it needs food, I think the soul creates the same kind of unavoidable pestering, perhaps indirectly through the conscience, the spirits of worship and wisdom, or perhaps through angelic influence from the outside that stimulates the moral conscious, or how about the Holy Spirit, who knows all there is to know about us . . .  I’m not really sure.  But I am surely convinced that you have to actively ignore and willingly resist the cries of a hungry soul unless you’re born with some sort of mental or spiritual deficit unable to perceive it . . . like the man Jesus didn’t bother to teach because he was unable to benefit from it.  I think there are some of those people around, but the average person must have some ability to hear, feel and sense the soul’s hungry cries for truth, beauty and goodness.

    Anyway, I’ll leave it at that.  Got a houseful coming.  Need to get things in the oven and make the place all sparkly and fun!  More later, I hope.

     

  5. Sounds like a gravity circuit to me

  6. Sounds like a gravity circuit to me

    What does?

     

  7. Back to deity craving – what we really crave is truth, beauty and goodness because that is really the only way we can relate to deity.

    watch out when you spell deity, if you mistakenly put i before e like the rules say we should, spell check changes it to dirty.

    No maybe a London accent is the rule here☺

  8. watch out when you spell deity, if you mistakenly put i before e like the rules say we should, spell check changes it to dirty.

    That’s a riot.  Thanks for the warning.  Have I done that?  I’m guessing I have.

    What you’re saying about gravity, I think you might be onto something there.  We know that the material body responds to physical gravity, the mind responds to mind gravity, the personality responds to personality gravity, so the soul must respond to spiritual gravity . . . I’m guessing.  So I’m also guessing we have to include a discussion on spiritual gravity too.

    In regards to truth, beauty and goodness, I agree that we naturally crave these values of divinity.  God is the Original truth, beauty and goodness. the origin of Divinity, and we actively strive to co-create a sub-Deity soul utilizing, as best we can, those divine patterns he provides.  He gives us the building materials and we build.

    Incidentally, if you don’t hyphenate co-create, spell check turns into concrete.

     

  9. Help from biblical scholars??

    this is close enough to mind stuff so it’s not a separate thread but I suppose it could be.

    i cannot decipher the meaning of the prophet Johns vision inserted here in the paper about the Local Universe Mother Spirit just after a brief intro to the 7 Adjutants. I’m certain the author had a specific purpose to insert this here as well as what it means but i could decipher its meaning and escapes me.

    any ideas?

    john saw the system broadcasts and the directional control creatures (34:4.12 not included here) – he saw them as beasts and this explanation simply corrects that ??? That is all?

    i feel like I’m missing the point.

    why would his vision be of these beings anyway? what possible value could that have had??

    (378.4) 34:4.10 The seven adjutant mind-spirits are the creation of the Divine Minister of a local universe. These mind-spirits are similar in character but diverse in power, and all partake alike of the nature of the Universe Spirit, although they are hardly regarded as personalities apart from their Mother Creator. The seven adjutants have been given the following names: the spirit of wisdom, the spirit of worship, the spirit of counsel, the spirit of knowledge, the spirit of courage, the spirit of understanding, the spirit of intuition — of quick perception.

    (378.5) 34:4.11 These are the “seven spirits of God,” “like lamps burning before the throne,” which the prophet saw in the symbols of vision. But he did not see the seats of the four and twenty sentinels about these seven adjutant mind-spirits. This record represents the confusion of two presentations, one pertaining to the universe headquarters and the other to the system capital. The seats of the four and twenty elders are on Jerusem, the headquarters of your local system of inhabited worlds.

    1. (378.6) 34:4.12 But it was of Salvington that John wrote: “And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices” — the universe broadcasts to the local systems. He also envisaged the directional control creatures of the local universe, the living compasses of the headquarters world. This directional control in Nebadon is maintained by the four control creatures of Salvington, who operate over the universe currents and are ably assisted by the first functioning mind-spirit, the adjutant of intuition, the spirit of “quick understanding.” But the description of these four creatures — called beasts — has been sadly marred; they are of unparalleled beauty and exquisite form.
  10. this is close enough to mind stuff so it’s not a separate thread but I suppose it could be.

    i cannot decipher the meaning of the prophet Johns vision inserted here in the paper about the Local Universe Mother Spirit just after a brief intro to the 7 Adjutants. I’m certain the author had a specific purpose to insert this here as well as what it means but i could decipher its meaning and escapes me.

    any ideas?

    john saw the system broadcasts and the directional control creatures (34:4.12 not included here) – he saw them as beasts and this explanation simply corrects that ??? That is all?

    i feel like I’m missing the point.

    why would his vision be of these beings anyway? what possible value could that have had??

    You are correct “Gene” that this would be another topic but, let me tell you why I think so, and before, it is important to understand the complexity of both the UB and the Bible, narrations in that they are multiplexed and have overlaying topics and structure.  Also what I will present is my opinion and should not be considered as scholarly intervention as to context.

    (378.5) 34:4.11 These are the “seven spirits of God,” “like lamps burning before the throne,” which the prophet saw in the symbols of vision. But he did not see the seats of the four and twenty sentinels about these seven adjutant mind-spirits. This record represents the confusion of two presentations, one pertaining to the universe headquarters and the other to the system capital. The seats of the four and twenty elders are on Jerusem, the headquarters of your local system of inhabited worlds.

    (378.6) 34:4.12 But it was of Salvington that John wrote: “And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices” — the universe broadcasts to the local systems. He also envisaged the directional control creatures of the local universe, the living compasses of the headquarters world. This directional control in Nebadon is maintained by the four control creatures of Salvington, who operate over the universe currents and are ably assisted by the first functioning mind-spirit, the adjutant of intuition, the spirit of “quick understanding.” But the description of these four creatures — called beasts — has been sadly marred; they are of unparalleled beauty and exquisite form.

    The highlighted (in red) quotations above primarily come from Revelation 4:5, with the exception of the last one “quick understanding” which comes from Isaiah 11:3.

    Revelation 4:5 Context

    2 And immediately I was in the spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.

    3 And he that sat was to look upon like a jasper and a sardine stone: and there was a rainbow round about the throne, in sight like unto an emerald.

    4 And round about the throne were four and twenty seats: and upon the seats I saw four and twenty elders sitting, clothed in white raiment; and they had on their heads crowns of gold.

    5 And out of the throne proceeded lightnings and thunderings and voices: and there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God.

    6 And before the throne there was a sea of glass like unto crystal: and in the midst of the throne, and round about the throne, were four beasts full of eyes before and behind.

    7 And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.

    8 And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.

    Isaiah 11:3

    3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:

    Where in UB “34:4.11” it is indicating that in the Biblical presentation of Revelation 4, it was misinterpreted or translated as being from the Vision cortex, where even I had translated Paper 46, as a primary description of the eye, but I would need to re-examine my translation to the brain stem area or parts thereof, or a multiple composition, when they said “The seats of the four and twenty elders are on Jerusem,” where comparing the Biblical with the UB, the “four and twenty elders” represent the 12 “Cranial nerves” that pair off to be 24 for both left and right sagittal planes, as indicated by “living compasses” representing “anatomical plane“.

    If one assumes that much of the Biblical notation presented above like the “four beasts” as being parts of the brain like the “thalamus” translating to “the fourth beast was like a flying eagle” one might better understand what is being described.

    However, as I said this is off topic and will be contradicted by many, but again some of us see things differently in our minds, and can associate patterns differently, and may have a “quick understanding” when looking these patterns up in other areas that may have also been seen and can associate these word symbols to pictures once seen or other things heard.

    I don’t expect anyone to understand what I have presented but that it is one possible interpretation only.

  11. i cannot decipher the meaning of the prophet Johns vision inserted here in the paper about the Local Universe Mother Spirit just after a brief intro to the 7 Adjutants. I’m certain the author had a specific purpose to insert this here as well as what it means but i could decipher its meaning and escapes me. any ideas?

    The title of the section is Local Universe Circuits.  The author is clearing up a partial revelation concerning those circuits.  John confused the location in the universe of the home world for the adjutants, which is Life Carrier world #1 on the universe capital of Salvington, and the position of the “judgement seat” where the twenty four counselors are headquartered, which is located on the system capital of Jerusem.

    It’s just a matter of explaining where these circuits originate and how the Bible got it wrong again.

  12. Midi, your interpretation is indeed unique, as far as belief I can’t say one way out another.

    possibly the information about johns vision is simply a confirmation of the vision itself, opening up much potential for anyone that is on a similar quest?

    if I were John in a situational n like that , I likely would not know where I was either????

    And it did happen inside of his MIND, it’s not like he went through Salvington in the flesh.

    the mind connection I was looking for??

  13. More on mind

    im taken to the “over control of life and its evolution”

    we are told that the entire universe is mind made and personality managed. We are also told that all living matter is engaged by mind. The lowest form of life is engaged by “mechanical mind” and that confuses me a bit first because it is non adjutant and second, I don’t understand where the brain functions in creatures that have brains, isn’t organ function controlled by brain?  Non teachable life systems without brains I can understand a bit easier so what then is the purpose of the brain? To engage adjutant mind??or to control the physical system?? Both??

    back to mind made personality managed: that revelation of “the most highs rule in the kingdom of men” is a challenging concept for me. Paper 175:1.8 helps me understand this:

    Can’t copy and paste it but it talks about the Most Highs overthrowing the nation of Israel and destroying the place of the scribes and Pharisees.

    But it’s the wrong kind of help. What happens to our free will choice?

     

     

  14. Gene wrote: . . . and second, I don’t understand where the brain functions in creatures that have brains, isn’t organ function controlled by brain?

    I don’t understand this sentence.  Would you mind rephrasing your thought?

    You do know that the heart, liver, kidney, etc. are capable of continued function in a completely brain dead individual, right?  Hearts will continue beating even outside the body if provided the necessary substrates.

  15. I suppose I don’t have a clear understanding of physical brain function vs mechanical mind and or adjutant mind function in a human being.

    typically when I consider mind I think Adjutants but there is more to it. The mechanical mind for one.

  16. I suppose I don’t have a clear understanding of physical brain function vs mechanical mind and or adjutant mind function in a human being.

    typically when I consider mind I think Adjutants but there is more to it. The mechanical mind for one.

    Gene, it would seem that your primary confusion, if you can call it that, is with the UB’s use of “mechanical mind” which might indicate that it is a part of the brain or as you indicate a brain function, where I have looked up all of the occurrences of its use in the UB and I have come to the conclusion that it is not so much a function as an ability in-bedded into a creature or human which, as mentioned is “nonteachable”.  This would lead me to one association, and that is “instinct”.  The following is what seems to be the best definition as you have laid out your narrations.

    (480.6) 42:10.3 1. Preadjutant-spirit minds. This level of mind is nonexperiencing and on the inhabited worlds is ministered by the Master Physical Controllers. This is mechanical mind, the nonteachable intellect of the most primitive forms of material life, but the nonteachable mind functions on many levels beside that of primitive planetary life.

    In psychology it was associated by Freud as the Id, but this type of instinctual, behavior or ability can be associated to talent and even spiritual insight which someone may not be able to explain.  If you take this understanding it could also be inherited abilities or even personality traits which are built in to a person and others might see similarities from other family members or even other individuals not closely associated.  But as it indicates in the UB quote above, the “Master Physical Controllers” minister to this mind level which may refer to genetic patterns, that makes up the human being.  So, one might replace “mechanical mind” with instinctive mind.

  17. (480.6) 42:10.3 1. Preadjutant-spirit minds. This level of mind is nonexperiencing and on the inhabited worlds is ministered by the Master Physical Controllers. This is mechanical mind, the nonteachable intellect of the most primitive forms of material life, but the nonteachable mind functions on many levels beside that of primitive planetary life.

    Great quote- thx Midi.

    but it makes me wonder exactly what my brain does control – Especially thinking about Bonitas comment about our functioning organs after  brain death and outside the body with  mechanical help.

  18. Copied from page 1 of this thread:

    This takes me to paper 34 on the local universe mother and the last paragraph in part 5 34:5.7 summarizes: The presence of the Holy Spirit of the Universe Daughter of the Infinite Spirit, of the Spirit of Truth of the Universe Son of the Eternal Son, and of the Adjuster-spirit of the Paradise Father in or with an evolutionary mortal, denotes symmetry of spiritual endowment and ministry and qualifies such a mortal con- sciously to realize the faith-fact of sonship with God. It appears the worship adjutant is coordinating this and deeply involved with our personalities

    and here from paper 108.2 describes it kind of sequentially.

    And prior to the bestowal of the spirit of truth it appears that the process is not so straight forward and most persons appear to need to have been third circlers in order for Adjuster i dwelling.

    Though the Adjusters volunteer for service as soon as the personality fore- casts have been relayed to Divinington, they are not actually assigned until the human subjects make their first moral personality decision. The first moral choice of the human child is automatically indicated in the seventh mind- adjutant and registers instantly, by way of the local universe Creative Spirit, over the universal mind-gravity circuit of the Conjoint Actor in the presence of the Master Spirit of superuniverse jurisdiction, who forthwith dispatches this intelligence to Divinington. Adjusters reach their human subjects on Urantia, on the average, just prior to the sixth birthday. In the present gen- eration it is running five years, ten months, and four days; that is, on the 2,134th day of terrestrial life. The Adjusters cannot invade the mortal mind until it has been duly pre- pared by the indwelling ministry of the adjutant mind-spirits and encircuited in the Holy Spirit. And it requires the co-ordinate function of all seven adjutants to thus qualify the human mind for the reception of an Adjuster. Creature mind must exhibit the worship outreach and indicate wisdom function by exhibiting the ability to choose between the emerging values of good and evil—moral choice. Thus is the stage of the human mind set for the reception of Adjusters, but as a general rule they do not immediately appear to indwell such minds except on those worlds where the Spirit of Truth is functioning as a spiritual co- ordinator of these different spirit ministries. If this spirit of the bestowal Sons is present, the Adjusters unfailingly come the instant the seventh adjutant mind-spirit begins to function and signalizes to the Universe Mother Spirit that it has achieved in potential the co-ordination of the associated six adjutants of prior ministry to such a mortal intellect. Therefore have the divine Adjusters been universally bestowed upon all normal minds of moral status on Urantia ever since the day of Pentecost. Even with a Spirit of Truth endowed mind, the Adjusters cannot arbitrarily invade the mortal intellect prior to the appearance of moral decision. But when such a moral decision has been made, this spirit helper assumes jurisdiction direct from Divinington. There are no intermediaries or other intervening authorities or powers functioning between the divine Adjusters and their human subjects; God and man are directly related. Before the times of the pouring out of the Spirit of Truth upon the inhabi- tants of an evolutionary world, the Adjusters’ bestowal appears to be deter- mined by many spirit influences and personality attitudes. We do not fully comprehend the laws governing such bestowals; we do not understand just what determines the release of the Adjusters who have volunteered to indwell such evolving minds. But we do observe numerous influences and conditions which appear to be associated with the arrival of the Adjusters in such minds prior to the bestowal of the Spirit of Truth, and they are: 1. The assignment of personal seraphic guardians. If a mortal has not been previously indwelt by an Adjuster, the assignment of a personal guardian brings the Adjuster forthwith. There exists some very definite but unknown relation between the ministry of Adjusters and the ministry of personal seraphic guardians. 2. The attainment of the third circle of intellectual achievement and spirit- ual attainment. I have observed Adjusters arrive in mortal minds upon the conquest of the third circle even before such an accomplishment could be sig- nalized to the local universe personalities concerned with such matters. 3. Upon the making of a supreme decision of unusual spiritual import. Such human behavior in a personal planetary crisis usually is attended by the immediate arrival of the waiting Adjuster. 4. The spirit of brotherhood. Regardless of the attainment of the psychic circles and the assignment of personal guardians—in the absence of anything resembling a crisis decision—when an evolving mortal becomes dominated by the love of his fellows and consecrated to unselfish ministry to his breth- ren in the flesh, the waiting Adjuster unvaryingly descends to indwell the mind of such a mortal minister. 5. Declaration of intention to do the will of God. We observe that many mortals on the worlds of space may be apparently in readiness to receive Ad- justers, and yet the Monitors do not appear. We go on watching such creatures as they live from day to day, and presently they quietly, almost unconsciously, arrive at the decision to begin the pursuit of the doing of the will of the Father in heaven. And then we observe the immediate dispatch of the Thought Ad- justers. 6. Influence of the Supreme Being. On worlds where the Adjusters do not fuse with the evolving souls of the mortal inhabitants, we observe Adjusters sometimes bestowed in response to influences which are wholly beyond our comprehension. We conjecture that such bestowals are determined by some cosmic reflex action originating in the Supreme Being. As to why these Adjusters can not or do not fuse with these certain types of evolving mortal minds we do not know. Such transactions have never been revealed to us.

    very interesting stuff.

  19. I suppose I don’t have a clear understanding of physical brain function vs mechanical mind and or adjutant mind function in a human being. typically when I consider mind I think Adjutants but there is more to it. The mechanical mind for one.

    The mechanical mind is non-teachable mind which exists in the most primitive forms of material life, such as plants and bacteria.  Human life is not primitive, it is highly evolved by the adjutants.  The first adjutant overlaps the mechanical mind of primitive life and the teachable mind of animal life, including humans.  There is always an overlap when it comes to mind ministry.

  20. but it makes me wonder exactly what my brain does control – Especially thinking about Bonitas comment about our functioning organs after  brain death and outside the body with  mechanical help.

    The brain, along with the pituitary gland within the brain, regulates some of the activities of those organs; it is not responsible for their over-control.  In life they are automatic as long as the necessary substrates are provided for their electro-chemical health.  When the brain dies, organs continue living as long as someone feeds them, which is how we get all our organ donations for transplant.  Brain dead people are put on ventilators so the lungs can provide oxygen to the blood, and chemical substrates, which would normally be consumed, are given intravenously in order to keep all the organs alive until they can be harvested.  Then, they are placed in a bath of substrate and chilled for transport.

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