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Architectural Worlds

86 posts · 6 participants · started Aug 15, 2022, 6:09 PM

  1. As moves the part, so  moves the  whole.

    3:5.15 [Part I]
    Throughout the universe, every unit is regarded as a part of the whole. Survival of the part is dependent on co-operation with the plan and purpose of the whole, the wholehearted desire and perfect willingness to do the Father’s divine will. The only evolutionary world without error (the possibility of unwise judgment) would be a world without free intelligence. In the Havona universe there are a billion perfect worlds with their perfect inhabitants, but evolving man must be fallible if he is to be free. Free and inexperienced intelligence cannot possibly at first be uniformly wise. The possibility of mistaken judgment (evil) becomes sin only when the human will consciously endorses and knowingly embraces a deliberate immoral judgment.
    12:7.9 [Part I]
    The love of the Father absolutely individualizes each personality as a unique child of the Universal Father, a child without duplicate in infinity, a will creature irreplaceable in all eternity. The Father’s love glorifies each child of God, illuminating each member of the celestial family, sharply silhouetting the unique nature of each personal being against the impersonal levels that lie outside the fraternal circuit of the Father of all. The love of God strikingly portrays the transcendent value of each will creature, unmistakably reveals the high value which the Universal Father has placed upon each and every one of his children from the highest creator personality of Paradise status to the lowest personality of will dignity among the savage tribes of men in the dawn of the human species on some evolutionary world of time and space.
  2. I wonder if we can discern anything about the our local universe architectural worlds by trying to  peer into what is revealed about the resurrection of Jesus. He passed through the morontia career here on earth. When he appeared to Mary Magdalene and the other women in the garden, wasn’t he a first stage morontian, more along the lines of what our forms will be when we are resurrected on our first architectural world?

    189:1.1 At two forty-five Sunday morning, the Paradise incarnation commission, consisting of seven unidentified Paradise personalities, arrived on the scene and immediately deployed themselves about the tomb. At ten minutes before three, intense vibrations of commingled material and morontia activities began to issue from Joseph’s new tomb, and at two minutes past three o’clock, this Sunday morning, April 9, A.D. 30, the resurrected morontia form and personality of Jesus of Nazareth came forth from the tomb.

    I am fascinated by the phrase “. . . intense vibrations of commingled material and morontia activities began to issue from Joseph’s new tomb. . . .” He emerged from the tomb directly by passing through the stones closing its entrance. Maybe this is not a good line of thinking. As I understand the text, we, as morontia newbies, will not have the ability to pass through physical matter. We will be more physical than morontial. By proportion, how much of one compared other, who knows?

  3. People had difficulty recognizing Jesus when he appeared before them in the morontia, but they recognized his personality when he spoke.  193:2.3  Do you think this will be similar for us when we get to  mansonia? Will we depend upon personality recognition, rather than physical recognition?

  4. Found this…our Adjusters apparently assist in such recognition:

    44:0.18 (498.9)There is also here with me a Mighty Messenger from Uversa, an ascendant Adjuster-fused, onetime mortal being, and he perceives you as you are, and at the same time he visualizes the Solitary Messenger, the supernaphim, and other celestial beings present. Never in your long ascendancy will you lose the power to recognize your associates of former existences. Always, as you ascend inward in the scale of life, will you retain the ability to recognize and fraternize with the fellow beings of your previous and lower levels of experience. Each new translation or resurrection will add one more group of spirit beings to your vision range without in the least depriving you of the ability to recognize your friends and fellows of former estates.

    44:0.19 (498.10)All this is made possible in the experience of ascending mortals by the action of the indwelling Thought Adjusters. Through their retention of the duplicates of your entire life’s experiences, you are assured of never losing any true attribute you once had; and these Adjusters are going through with you, as a part of you, in reality, as you.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  5. Individually, we have the power to change ourselves. Collectively, we have the power to change our civilization. We have it within us to succeed. If this weren’t true, Christ Michael would not have chosen our world for His final bestowal.
    Me here: Michael had 10,000,000 worlds (potentially) like Urantia to choose from. He did not choose our world due to any mortal potential or destiny unavailable to the other millions of inhabited worlds of Nebadon or 7 trillion such worlds in the 7 Super Universes.
    All mortals “…have the power to change ourselves. Collectively, we have the power to change our civilization.”
    Truly it can be said that, collectively, the tadpoles of time have the power to change eternity and even Deity by our ascendence and experiential perfecting in time.
    All tadpoles, everywhere.
    Same is true for our celestial cousins who likewise attain experiential wisdom and contribute to the destiny of potential.
    There are specific reasons our world was so blessed by that choice. Indeed. Michael has a long reputation for seeking out the most needy and desperate of worlds for his bestowals, often in the grip of those few, even so very rare, rebellions within Nebadon’s borders.
    It seems Urantia may well have been selected due to its difficulty of assignment and local need primarily. A universe example, perhaps, of the power of love to stop iniquity and overwhelm the effects of sin. The Way of Faith.
    The tadpoles way??? I think so, yes.
    Perhaps we might return to the topic of Architectural Worlds…and their nature and purpose in the perfecting of the imperfect in time.
    • 76:5.7 (853.1)Misfortune has not, however, been the sole lot of Urantia; this planet has also been the most fortunate in the local universe of Nebadon. Urantians should count it all gain if the blunders of their ancestors and the mistakes of their early world rulers so plunged the planet into such a hopeless state of confusion, all the more confounded by evil and sin, that this very background of darkness should so appeal to Michael of Nebadon that he selected this world as the arena wherein to reveal the loving personality of the Father in heaven. It is not that Urantia needed a Creator Son to set its tangled affairs in order; it is rather that the evil and sin on Urantia afforded the Creator Son a more striking background against which to reveal the matchless love, mercy, and patience of the Paradise Father.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  6. Truly it can be said that, collectively, the tadpoles of time have the power to change eternity and even Deity by our ascendence and experiential perfecting in time.

    I am stumbling over your comment about the power to change eternity. Would you explain what you mean? What do you mean by changing Deity?

  7. Truly it can be said that, collectively, the tadpoles of time have the power to change eternity and even Deity by our ascendence and experiential perfecting in time.

    I am stumbling over your comment about the power to change eternity. Would you explain what you mean? What do you mean by changing Deity?

    Me here: It relates to what you said about as goes the parts so goes the whole.

     

    (138.6) 12:7.11 Brotherhood constitutes a fact of relationship between every personality in universal existence. No person can escape the benefits or the penalties that may come as a result of relationship to other persons. The part profits or suffers in measure with the whole. The good effort of each man benefits all men; the error or evil of each man augments the tribulation of all men. As moves the part, so moves the whole. As the progress of the whole, so the progress of the part. The relative velocities of part and whole determine whether the part is retarded by the inertia of the whole or is carried forward by the momentum of the cosmic brotherhood.

    Me here: The UB teaches that every personal experience and expression of love, truth, beauty, and goodness is an eternal actualization of potential that becomes a cause of future effects.  Personal spiritization and experiential wisdom contributes to social evolutionary progress, including local, planetary, and universal progress.
    Such spiritization also contributes to the progressive actualization of God the Supreme.  Existential wisdom is perfected even more so by experiential wisdom as well.
    Individual ascenders (mortals and celestials) contribute to universe evolutionary perfecting by our own personal spiritization.  Freewill experiential wisdom by each part contributes to the perfecting of the whole.
    Or so I understand the Papers to teach.   I’ll add some supporting quotes!!  There’s lots of them…
    = )

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  8. (4.9) 0:2.15 4. God the Supreme — the actualizing or evolving God of time and space. Personal Deity associatively realizing the time-space experiential achievement of creature-Creator identity. The Supreme Being is personally experiencing the achievement of Deity unity as the evolving and experiential God of the evolutionary creatures of time and space.

    (25.6) 1:3.6 In the universes God the Father is, in potential, the overcontroller of matter, mind, and spirit. Only by means of his far-flung personality circuit does God deal directly with the personalities of his vast creation of will creatures, but he is contactable (outside of Paradise) only in the presences of his fragmented entities, the will of God abroad in the universes. This Paradise spirit that indwells the minds of the mortals of time and there fosters the evolution of the immortal soul of the surviving creature is of the nature and divinity of the Universal Father. But the minds of such evolutionary creatures originate in the local universes and must gain divine perfection by achieving those experiential transformations of spiritual attainment which are the inevitable result of a creature’s choosing to do the will of the Father in heaven.

    (29.4) 1:5.14 God, being eternal, universal, absolute, and infinite, does not grow in knowledge nor increase in wisdom. God does not acquire experience, as finite man might conjecture or comprehend, but he does, within the realms of his own eternal personality, enjoy those continuous expansions of self-realization which are in certain ways comparable to, and analogous with, the acquirement of new experience by the finite creatures of the evolutionary worlds.

    (195.9) 16:9.3 If mortal man fails to survive natural death, the real spiritual values of his human experience survive as a part of the continuing experience of the Thought Adjuster. The personality values of such a nonsurvivor persist as a factor in the personality of the actualizing Supreme Being. Such persisting qualities of personality are deprived of identity but not of experiential values accumulated during the mortal life in the flesh. The survival of identity is dependent on the survival of the immortal soul of morontia status and increasingly divine value. Personality identity survives in and by the survival of the soul.

    (216.2) 19:2.4 Wisdom is twofold in origin, being derived from the perfection of divine insight inherent in perfect beings and from the personal experience acquired by evolutionary creatures. The Perfectors of Wisdom are the divine wisdom of the Paradise perfection of Deity insight. Their administrative associates on Uversa, the Mighty Messengers, Those without Name and Number, and Those High in Authority, when acting together, are the universe wisdom of experience. A divine being can have perfection of divine knowledge. An evolutionary mortal can sometime attain perfection of ascendant knowledge, but neither of these beings alone exhausts the potentials of all possible wisdom. Accordingly, whenever in the conduct of the superuniverse it is desired to achieve the maximum of administrative wisdom, these perfectors of the wisdom of divine insight are always associated with those ascendant personalities who have come up to the high responsibilities of superuniverse authority through the experiential tribulations of evolutionary progression.

    (216.3) 19:2.5 The Perfectors of Wisdom will always require this complement of experiential wisdom for the completion of their administrative sagacity. But it has been postulated that a high and hitherto unattained level of wisdom may possibly be achieved by the Paradise finaliters after they are sometime inducted into the seventh stage of spirit existence. If this inference is correct, then would such perfected beings of evolutionary ascent undoubtedly become the most effective universe administrators ever to be known in all creation. I believe that such is the high destiny of finaliters.

    353.6) 31:10.10 The gathering together of these seven finaliter corps signifies reality mobilization of potentials, personalities, minds, spirits, absonites, and experiential actualities that probably transcend even the future master universe functions of the Supreme Being. These seven finaliter corps probably signify the present activity of the Ultimate Trinity engaged in mustering the forces of the finite and the absonite in preparation for inconceivable developments in the universes of outer space. Nothing like this mobilization has taken place since the near times of eternity when the Paradise Trinity similarly mobilized the then existing personalities of Paradise and Havona and commissioned them as administrators and rulers of the projected seven superuniverses of time and space. The seven finaliter corps represent the divinity response of the grand universe to the future needs of the undeveloped potentials in the outer universes of future-eternal activities.

    (353.7) 31:10.11 We venture the forecast of future and greater outer universes of inhabited worlds, new spheres peopled with new orders of exquisite and unique beings, a material universe sublime in its ultimacy, a vast creation lacking in only one important detail — the presence of actual finite experience in the universal life of ascendant existence. Such a universe will come into being under a tremendous experiential handicap: the deprivation of participation in the evolution of the Almighty Supreme. These outer universes will all enjoy the matchless ministry and supernal overcontrol of the Supreme Being, but the very fact of his active presence precludes their participation in the actualization of the Supreme Deity.

    (353.8) 31:10.12 During the present universe age the evolving personalities of the grand universe suffer many difficulties due to the incomplete actualization of the sovereignty of God the Supreme, but we are all sharing the unique experience of his evolution. We evolve in him and he evolves in us. Sometime in the eternal future the evolution of Supreme Deity will become a completed fact of universe history, and the opportunity to participate in this wonderful experience will have passed from the stage of cosmic action.

    (353.9) 31:10.13 But those of us who have acquired this unique experience during the youth of the universe will treasure it throughout all future eternity. And many of us speculate that it may be the mission of the gradually accumulating reserves of the ascendant and perfected mortals of the Corps of the Finality, in association with the other six similarly recruiting corps, to administer these outer universes in an effort to compensate their experiential deficiencies in not having participated in the time-space evolution of the Supreme Being.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  9. Truly it can be said that, collectively, the tadpoles of time have the power to change eternity and even Deity by our ascendence and experiential perfecting in time.

    I am stumbling over your comment about the power to change eternity. Would you explain what you mean? What do you mean by changing Deity?

    Me here:  “The power to change eternity” might better be understood as the power to change the future, within eternity, as an experiential evolutionary spiritizing ascender, but more especially so as an infinitesimal part of the much larger whole of all other children of time.
    The collective spiritization of all the children of time realizes and actualizes endless potentials into the eternal effects of that experience.
    Experiential Deity is the personification of that collective spiritization and experiential wisdom.   That and those Dieties gain in power and effect as the children of time experience and express their/our spiritization.   As do also the children of time grow in experiential wisdom.
    Or so I understand the Papers to teach.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  10. “The power to change eternity” might better be understood as the power to change the future, within eternity, as an experiential evolutionary spiritizing ascender. . . .

    It’s complicated. The part, the whole, and the growth of the Supreme makes some sense to me. Maybe I am asking too much about eternity.

    32:5.2 [Part II]
    The eternal purpose of the eternal God is a high spiritual ideal. The events of time and the struggles of material existence are but the transient scaffolding which bridges over to the other side, to the promised land of spiritual reality and supernal existence. Of course, you mortals find it difficult to grasp the idea of an eternal purpose; you are virtually unable to comprehend the thought of eternity, something never beginning and never ending. Everything familiar to you has an end.
    2:1.5 [Part I]
    No thing is new to God, and no cosmic event ever comes as a surprise; he inhabits the circle of eternity. He is without beginning or end of days. To God there is no past, present, or future; all time is present at any given moment. He is the great and only I AM.
    .
    26:9.2 [Part I]
    The attainment of the Universal Father is the passport to eternity, notwithstanding the remaining circuits to be traversed. It is therefore a momentous occasion on the pilot world of circle number three when the transit trio announce that the last venture of time is about to ensue; that another creature of space seeks entry to Paradise through the portals of eternity.
  11. So….eternity does have a beginning.  Not for the First Source and Center or the Trinity we are told.  For everyone else, including Experiential Deity, eternity has no end, but there was/is a beginning.

    Experiential beings affect eternity.   Truth, beauty, goodness, and love are foundational causes of future effects.  The cause and effect cycle is now eternal and all personal, social, planetary, and universal progress by the children of time are the ultimate effects of experiential wisdom and spiritization in time.

    Or so I understand.

    There was a time before time, or a time without time, before the universes of time were conceived or created.  Will there be a time after time of no time for the children of time?

    For existential deity, perhaps there has never been time, and never will there ever be time.  But for the children of time, I believe there will always be time.  Endless time??

    Pure speculation.

     

     

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  12. So….eternity does have a beginning.

    It’s hypothetical, as I understand it.

    105:1.5 [Part III]
    To the finite mind there simply must be a beginning, and though there never was a real beginning to reality, still there are certain source relationships which reality manifests to infinity. The prereality, primordial, eternity situation may be thought of something like this: At some infinitely distant, hypothetical, past-eternity moment, the I AM may be conceived as both thing and no thing, as both cause and effect, as both volition and response. At this hypothetical eternity moment there is no differentiation throughout all infinity. Infinity is filled by the Infinite; the Infinite encompasses infinity. This is the hypothetical static moment of eternity; actuals are still contained within their potentials, and potentials have not yet appeared within the infinity of the I AM. But even in this conjectured situation we must assume the existence of the possibility of self-will.
    Of Havona they tell us:
    8:1.4 [Part I]  The God of Action functions and the dead vaults of space are astir. One billion perfect spheres flash into existence. Prior to this hypothetical eternity moment the space-energies inherent in Paradise are existent and potentially operative, but they have no actuality of being; neither can physical gravity be measured except by the reaction of material realities to its incessant pull. There is no material universe at this (assumed) eternally distant moment, but the very instant that one billion worlds materialize, there is in evidence gravity sufficient and adequate to hold them in the everlasting grasp of Paradise.

    Gravity keeps the one billion worlds of Havona in the Paradise grasp. Do you think these worlds are like architectural worlds?

  13. Gravity keeps the one billion worlds of Havona in the Paradise grasp. Do you think these worlds are like architectural worlds?

    Good question.  The spheres of time, both material and morontial (architectural), are not perfect as are the worlds of Havona.   And the worlds of time take ages and eons to create.  Good question!!

    Havona is the perfect pattern for the perfecting spheres of time.

    83.5) 7:2.2 In the central universe the personal activity of the Original Son is discernible in the exquisite spiritual harmony of the eternal creation. Havona is so marvelously perfect that the spiritual status and the energy states of this pattern universe are in perfect and perpetual balance.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  14. Havona is the perfect pattern for the perfecting spheres of time.

    Do you think the architectural worlds are duplicates of patterns from Havona? Do you think architectural worlds will evolve?

    I did find this about Havona:

    18:2.4 [Part I]
    The architecture, natural embellishment, morontia structures, and spirit creations are exclusive and unique on each sphere. Every world is a place of everlasting beauty and is wholly unlike any other world in the central universe. And you will each spend a longer or shorter time on each of these unique and thrilling spheres on your way inward through Havona to Paradise. It is natural, on your world, to speak of Paradise as upward, but it would be more correct to refer to the divine goal of ascension as inward.
    . . .and this about Jerusem:
    46:2.5 [Part II]
    Jerusem and its associated worlds are endowed with the ten standard divisions of physical life characteristic of the architectural spheres of Nebadon. And since there is no organic evolution on Jerusem, there are no conflicting forms of life, no struggle for existence, no survival of the fittest. Rather is there a creative adaptation which foreshadows the beauty, the harmony, and the perfection of the eternal worlds of the central and divine universe. And in all this creative perfection there is the most amazing intermingling of physical and of morontia life, artistically contrasted by the celestial artisans and their fellows.
  15. Do you think the architectural worlds are duplicates of patterns from Havona? Do you think architectural worlds will evolve?

    Duplicates, no.  I think they are creatively aspirational and inspirational – “creative adaptation”.

     

    Evolve?  Hmmmm…

     

    I think experiential beings evolve their creative expressions and adaptations progressively and collectively.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  16. Okay.

    They tell us that space is not empty.

    42:4.6   . . .The most nearly empty space known in Nebadon would yield about one hundred ultimatons — the equivalent of one electron — in each cubic inch. Such scarcity of matter is regarded as practically empty space.

    I wonder how much space is within one ultimaton? Since Havona is not in time or space 0:0.5 I imagine ultimatons aren’t wandering around there. Yet, when Havona became a reality, the gravity grasp of Paradise was measured (by those who do that sort of thing). 8:1.4  So there might be material realities there. What do you think?

  17. We know there is time and mass and motion related to Havona worlds.

    (129.8) 12:1.10 Havona, the central universe, is not a time creation; it is an eternal existence. This never-beginning, never-ending universe consists of one billion spheres of sublime perfection and is surrounded by the enormous dark gravity bodies. At the center of Havona is the stationary and absolutely stabilized Isle of Paradise, surrounded by its twenty-one satellites. Owing to the enormous encircling masses of the dark gravity bodies about the fringe of the central universe, the mass content of this central creation is far in excess of the total known mass of all seven sectors of the grand universe.

    153.2) 14:1.11 Time is not reckoned on Paradise; the sequence of successive events is inherent in the concept of those who are indigenous to the central Isle. But time is germane to the Havona circuits and to numerous beings of both celestial and terrestrial origin sojourning thereon. Each Havona world has its own local time, determined by its circuit. All worlds in a given circuit have the same length of year since they uniformly swing around Paradise, and the length of these planetary years decreases from the outermost to the innermost circuit.

    (153.3) 14:1.12 Besides Havona-circuit time, there is the Paradise-Havona standard day and other time designations which are determined on, and are sent out from, the seven Paradise satellites of the Infinite Spirit. The Paradise-Havona standard day is based on the length of time required for the planetary abodes of the first or inner Havona circuit to complete one revolution around the Isle of Paradise; and though their velocity is enormous, owing to their situation between the dark gravity bodies and gigantic Paradise, it requires almost one thousand years for these spheres to complete their circuit. You have unwittingly read the truth when your eyes rested on the statement “A day is as a thousand years with God, as but a watch in the night.” One Paradise-Havona day is just seven minutes, three and one-eighth seconds less than one thousand years of the present Urantia leap-year calendar.

    Me here: Regarding the “material” elements of Havona:

    154.3) 14:2.1 Spirit beings do not dwell in nebulous space; they do not inhabit ethereal worlds; they are domiciled on actual spheres of a material nature, worlds just as real as those on which mortals live. The Havona worlds are actual and literal, albeit their literal substance differs from the material organization of the planets of the seven superuniverses.

    (154.4) 14:2.2 The physical realities of Havona represent an order of energy organization radically different from any prevailing in the evolutionary universes of space. Havona energies are threefold; superuniverse units of energy-matter contain a twofold energy charge, although one form of energy exists in negative and positive phases. The creation of the central universe is threefold (Trinity); the creation of a local universe (directly) is twofold, by a Creator Son and a Creative Spirit.

    (154.5) 14:2.3 The material of Havona consists of the organization of exactly one thousand basic chemical elements and the balanced function of the seven forms of Havona energy. Each of these basic energies manifests seven phases of excitation, so that the Havona natives respond to forty-nine differing sensation stimuli. In other words, viewed from a purely physical standpoint, the natives of the central universe possess forty-nine specialized forms of sensation. The morontia senses are seventy, and the higher spiritual orders of reaction response vary in different types of beings from seventy to two hundred and ten.

    (154.6) 14:2.4 None of the physical beings of the central universe would be visible to Urantians. Neither would any of the physical stimuli of those faraway worlds excite a reaction in your gross sense organs. If a Urantia mortal could be transported to Havona, he would there be deaf, blind, and utterly lacking in all other sense reactions; he could only function as a limited self-conscious being deprived of all environmental stimuli and all reactions thereto.

    (154.7) 14:2.5 There are numerous physical phenomena and spiritual reactions transpiring in the central creation which are unknown on worlds such as Urantia. The basic organization of a threefold creation is wholly unlike that of the twofold constitution of the created universes of time and space.

    (154.8) 14:2.6 All natural law is co-ordinated on a basis entirely different than in the dual-energy systems of the evolving creations. The entire central universe is organized in accordance with the threefold system of perfect and symmetrical control. Throughout the whole Paradise-Havona system there is maintained a perfect balance between all cosmic realities and all spiritual forces. Paradise, with an absolute grasp of material creation, perfectly regulates and maintains the physical energies of this central universe; the Eternal Son, as a part of his all-embracing spirit grasp, most perfectly sustains the spiritual status of all who indwell Havona. On Paradise nothing is experimental, and the Paradise-Havona system is a unit of creative perfection.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  18. We know there is time and mass and motion related to Havona worlds.

    Awesome Bradly! Thanks.

  19. I am thinking more about the Havona worlds. In particular do you think the architectural worlds of the superuniverses and subdivisions of them are patterned after or copies of one or another of those worlds?  Maybe?

    4:0.2  It is easy to deduce that the purpose in creating the perfect central universe of Havona was purely the satisfaction of the divine nature. Havona may serve as the pattern creation for all other universes and as the finishing school for the pilgrims of time on their way to Paradise; however, such a supernal creation must exist primarily for the pleasure and satisfaction of the perfect and infinite Creators.

  20. Nice question Mara. If Havona is the pattern universe, then we could assume some degree of likeness designed into architectural worlds. But exact duplicates? Maybe yes or maybe not.

    Note the divine invitation to be perfect as the Father is perfect. I  am assuming this applies to the varying arch worlds for their designers to achieve. So, the stretch in thinking for me is yes, they could have copied some pattern of Havona. We have yet to see their beauty possibilities.

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