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Adjutant Mind-Spirits

149 posts · 9 participants · started Sep 15, 2014, 4:50 PM

AnonymousInactive
Sep 20, 2014, 2:30 AM

Bonita wrote:

Participant nelsong wrote: is it the mind that makes the contact with the Spirit of Wisdom?

The brain responds to mind ministry. Mind over matter. As the capacity of the brain increases, contact with higher and higher adjutants is facilitated.

58:6.7 The physiologic equipment and the anatomic structure of all new orders of life are in response to the action of physical law, but the subsequent endowment of mind is a bestowal of the adjutantmind-spirits in accordance with innate brain capacity. Mind, while not a physical evolution, is wholly dependent on the brain capacity afforded by purely physical and evolutionary developments.

How can the UB quote above relate to the human, when it is taken from and associated to something unrelated to humans, were the previous quote and following quote relate as follows:

(669.7) 58:6.6 Study of the rock-embraced fossils of marine life reveals the early adjustment struggles of these primitive organisms. Plants and animals never cease to make these adjustment experiments. Ever the environment is changing, and always are living organisms striving to accommodate themselves to these never-ending fluctuations.

(670.1) 58:6.7 The physiologic equipment and the anatomic structure of all new orders of life are in response to the action of physical law, but the subsequent endowment of mind is a bestowal of the adjutant mind-spirits in accordance with innate brain capacity. Mind, while not a physical evolution, is wholly dependent on the brain capacity afforded by purely physical and evolutionary developments.

(670.2) 58:6.8 Through almost endless cycles of gains and losses, adjustments and readjustments, all living organisms swing back and forth from age to age. Those that attain cosmic unity persist, while those that fall short of this goal cease to exist.

The last quote sounds a little like Darwinian Theory to me.
AnonymousInactive
Sep 20, 2014, 2:52 AM

Bonita wrote:

Brain capacity, intellect. The physical is responsive to the mind circuits and the mind circuits are responsive to the spiritual circuits. That’s the way the universe works.

42:12.15 Mind universally dominates matter, even as it is in turn responsive to the ultimate overcontrol of spirit.

Even if this is the way the universe works, why did you not add the remainder of the UB quote:

(484.3) 42:12.15 Mind universally dominates matter, even as it is in turn responsive to the ultimate overcontrol of spirit. And with mortal man, only that mind which freely submits itself to the spirit direction can hope to survive the mortal time-space existence as an immortal child of the eternal spirit world of the Supreme, the Ultimate, and the Absolute: the Infinite.

So, if a mortal human, is it only the mind, “which freely submits itself” to which “spirit direction”, and what does that have to do with “Brain capacity, intellect”?

And, how would that human mind know how it “freely submits itself” if “spirit” is directing, where if it has to be a free will choice, then between what the spirit directs is correct or not correct, which other spirit will then present the other option? Does this mean that the spirit that is talking in the mind, or is it a feeling like spirit, or urge?
BonitaParticipant
Sep 20, 2014, 3:00 PM

MidiChlorian wrote:

Has anyone actually tried to figure out how many “spirits” are influencing or adjusting or just keeping the human mind working, normally.

They all work as one and it is up to the personality to keep it working normally. Mind is unity and personality is the unifier.

MidiChlorian wrote:

So, if there are all these spirits that make up all the decision making that goes on in a human mind, why go to all the trouble to focus on all these different functions.

They don’t make the decisions, the personality makes decisions. The power of free-will choice resides with the personality.

MidiChlorian wrote:

The first five of these adjutant spirits are associated to the humans five senses . . .

Humans have 12 senses.
BonitaParticipant
Sep 20, 2014, 3:20 PM

MidiChlorian wrote:

How can the UB quote above relate to the human . . .

Because of the quote says that the bestowal of adjutant mind-spirits is in accordance with innate brain capacity. As humans evolved from animals, their brain capacity increased thereby according a greater capability for contact with the adjutants.
BonitaParticipant
Sep 20, 2014, 3:38 PM

MidiChlorian wrote:

So, if a mortal human, is it only the mind, “which freely submits itself” to which “spirit direction”, and what does that have to do with “Brain capacity, intellect”?

The mortal human is not only the mind.

The quote in question is establishing the fact that mind dominates matter and spirit dominates mind. Mind is always competent to produce a body for a living creature (42:12.9; 42:12.11). If mind did not dominate matter, how could that happen?

MidiChlorian wrote:

And, how would that human mind know how it “freely submits itself” if “spirit” is directing, where if it has to be a free will choice, then between what the spirit directs is correct or not correct, which other spirit will then present the other option?

The spirit influences work as one in the human mind. They do not contend with one another. If there is a war in your mind, then you are trying to serve two gods: the true God and the other imaginary god who is just your meager little self. [This does not pertain to people with schizophrenia, however. Those people have real chemical problems in their brains which prevent them from unifying their thoughts. Many of them are at constant war with the voices in their head.]

MidiChlorian wrote:

Does this mean that the spirit that is talking in the mind, or is it a feeling like spirit, or urge?

God will try to communicate with you in many different ways and he does this CONSTANTLY. The key is to learn to feel the presence of God and not worry so much about the words or urges.

110:1.1 And indirectly and unrecognized the Adjuster is constantly communicating with the human subject, especially during those sublime experiences of the worshipful contact of mind with spirit in the superconsciousness.

155:6.12 It is not so important that you should know about the fact of God as that you should increasingly grow in the ability to feel the presence of God.
nelsongParticipant
Sep 20, 2014, 8:07 PM
On feeling the presence of God:

this idea always fascinates me.

am I really feeling or imagining. Not imagining in a whimsical sense but more in the sense of trying to correlate with an infinite presence . We really have no physical way to do this. Mind must play a roll somehow, it can’t be our brains but we feel his presence so our brains are a part of it. Paradox to me

what we feel and what is real can be deceiving to me – who’s to say these sensations are not the presence of the Supreme?? Someone who our brains can potentially latch onto??
BonitaParticipant
Sep 20, 2014, 9:04 PM

nelsong wrote: . . . who’s to say these sensations are not the presence of the Supreme?? Someone who our brains can potentially latch onto??

You’ll never be able know anyone as well as you know God who lives within you. And that’s just a fact. Of course it will seem imaginary at first, that’s called the alter ego. In time, with effort, sincere prayer and by always sharing the inner life with him, you will come to know without a doubt whose presence it is. And that is because of the reality of it all. His reality cannot be denied without denying your own reality.

16:9.4 Human self-consciousness implies the recognition of the reality of selves other than the conscious self and further implies that such awareness is mutual; that the self is known as it knows. This is shown in a purely human manner in man’s social life. But you cannot become so absolutely certain of a fellow being’s reality as you can of the reality of the presence of God that lives within you. The social consciousness is not inalienable like the God-consciousness; it is a cultural development and is dependent on knowledge, symbols, and the contributions of the constitutive endowments of man—science, morality, and religion. And these cosmic gifts, socialized, constitute civilization.

ButIf you have trouble with the alter ego approach, then use the “mind of Jesus”. He is in you as a revelation of God’s nature. In fact, you can’t know one without the other. Should I start a thread on God-consciousness, or feeling the presence of God?

p553:07 If your own mind does not serve you well, you can exchange it for the mind of Jesus of Nazareth, who always serves you well.
nelsongParticipant
Sep 21, 2014, 1:32 AM
I suppose That one could make the distinction where it is our spiritual nature that reaches out to recognize and worship the Father and it is more our intellectual nature that embraces the Supreme??
AnonymousInactive
Sep 21, 2014, 2:23 AM

Bonita wrote:

Humans have 12 senses.

Yes Bonita, I’m aware of where it indicates this:

(564.5) 49:4.3 The average special physical-sense endowment of human beings is twelve, though the special senses of the three-brained mortals are extended slightly beyond those of the one- and two-brained types; they can see and hear considerably more than the Urantia races.

But, there are five basic senses which, I’m sure that each one of these can be enhanced or augmented, like sight being one but some individuals can see much more than the average person, but in the quote above it states “average special physical-sense”, where if “physical-sense” would not include spirit-senses. So if these are physical senses, what are they, and would they be given a name, like sixth-sense, but wouldn’t that be a spirit-sense?

It is one thing to state that a human has twelve senses but another to not identify them, and also to indicate that these twelve are the average and special, which would indicate that there are more, where it does state that different being throughout the universe can have as many as 210.

So what are these twelve senses, or should we just believe that they are and take it from there?
AnonymousInactive
Sep 21, 2014, 2:39 AM

Bonita wrote:

p553:07 If your own mind does not serve you well, you can exchange it for the mind of Jesus of Nazareth, who always serves you well.

Granted, that’s what the quote says:

(553.7) 48:6.26 Even on Urantia, these seraphim teach the everlasting truth: If your own mind does not serve you well, you can exchange it for the mind of Jesus of Nazareth, who always serves you well.

But as written, and given the colon (:), would this not be what the “seraphim teach”, and if this is what they teach, how would one know how to “exchange” one mind for another, without a seraphim teaching one how to do this? And then, how would one know that they were using the “mind of Jesus”, once this is done?
AnonymousInactive
Sep 21, 2014, 2:54 AM

Bonita wrote:

You’ll never be able know anyone as well as you know God who lives within you. And that’s just a fact. Of course it will seem imaginary at first, that’s called the alter ego. In time, with effort, sincere prayer and by always sharing the inner life with him, you will come to know without a doubt whose presence it is. And that is because of the reality of it all. His reality cannot be denied without denying your own reality.

I can understand your devotion to God, Bonita, and that through the introduction of the Thought Adjuster in the Urantia Book, many individuals have gained a higher understand of their consciousness but, can one put too much emphasis on the alter ego approach, and loose their way, where they become so focused on the God within and loose sight of themselves and others. In other words, would God not want the individual to project His Will upon others as that individual and not as a God who has taken control of that persons free will?
AnonymousInactive
Sep 21, 2014, 3:14 AM

Bonita wrote:

The spirit influences work as one in the human mind. They do not contend with one another. If there is a war in your mind, then you are trying to serve two gods: the true God and the other imaginary god who is just your meager little self. [This does not pertain to people with schizophrenia, however. Those people have real chemical problems in their brains which prevent them from unifying their thoughts. Many of them are at constant war with the voices in their head.]

I understand what you are attempting to say above, especially in regards to a person who may be suffering from schizophrenia, where they hear these voices, and in some cases, these voices tell them what to do, as if they were in an alternate reality. But, as you indicate above, when a normal minded individual attempts to differentiate between “the spirit influences” since they “work as one in the human mind” how can one determine contention, if they act as one? I’m not sure of what you mean by “a war in your mind”, is it where this oneness takes on opposing thoughts or roles? Where one is impressing or urging one thing and then contradicts itself, like a conscience would? That might make sense, where that which is positive is God and that which is negative is the warring mind, as long as one knows the difference between the two, and this would not be the case with a person with schizophrenia?
BonitaParticipant
Sep 21, 2014, 1:47 PM

nelsong wrote:

I suppose That one could make the distinction where it is our spiritual nature that reaches out to recognize and worship the Father and it is more our intellectual nature that embraces the Supreme??

I’m not sure what you mean by embracing the Supreme, but I can tell you that it takes more than intellect to experience the Supreme. The Supreme requires a three-fold approach to reality unified by personality. Using only the intellect is not a three-fold approach to reality. I think Jesus did a splendid job of explaining this in the quote below. Notice that he includes material causation, intellectual self-consciousness, spiritually progressing selfhood. Where else have you seen these three levels of reality? Those are the levels of reality that the cosmic mind recognizes with a reality response. You need a full cosmic outlook in order to experience the Supreme.

p1434:01 The source of universe reality is the Infinite. The material things of finite creation are the time-space repercussions of the Paradise Pattern and the Universal Mind of the eternal God. Causation in the physical world, self-consciousness in the intellectual world, and progressing selfhood in the spirit world÷these realities, projected on a universal scale, combined in eternal relatedness, and experienced with perfection of quality and divinity of value÷constitute the reality of the Supreme.
AnonymousInactive
Sep 21, 2014, 2:07 PM

Bonita wrote:

Because of the quote says that the bestowal of adjutant mind-spirits is in accordance with innate brain capacity. As humans evolved from animals, their brain capacity increased thereby according a greater capability for contact with the adjutants.

Yes, but was not the quote in reference to “adjustment struggles of these primitive organisms“, and not humans, but animals. And, that the bestowal or gift, of “mine-spirits is in accordance with innate brain capacity”, where “innate” would indicate: “instinctive; not learned: innate capacities”. So, if one assumes that humans are still animals, and have a limited “brain capacity” would we need to wait until our human brains grow larger to be able to have more capacity, to house more or additional “adjutant mind-spirit” influences, and then as in other responses if personality is the controller, how would the personalities innateness as related to instinct, play on the adjutant’s?
BonitaParticipant
Sep 21, 2014, 3:31 PM
MidiChlorian wrote: But as written, and given the colon (:), would this not be what the “seraphim teach”, and if this is what they teach, how would one know how to “exchange” one mind for another, without a seraphim teaching one how to do this?

Seraphim are in perfect coordination with the spirit influences within the mind. It’s not necessary to separate them all out. The mind of Jesus can be thought of in different ways. Jesus had both a human and divine mind. To exchange your human mind for the human mind of Jesus would necessitate knowing something of how he lived is life on earth and what he believed in. But a more useful approach is to use the divine mind of Jesus which is the same as the Spirit of Truth, who helps men recall and understand the words of Jesus as well as to illuminate and reinterpret his life on earth. (p2061:3 194:2.5). If you need help accessing the Spirit of Truth, may I suggest listening to the knock on the door of your soul because he’s there constantly banging away, angels or no angels, until you hear him and open the door. It’s not that hard to do if you have any loyalty to Michael at all, even a smidgeon is enough.

MidiChlorian wrote: And then, how would one know that they were using the “mind of Jesus”, once this is done?

The UB is pretty clear what happens if you have the mind of Jesus within you: “If any man has Christ Jesus within him, he is a new creature; old things are passing away; behold, all things are becoming new.” (p1103:06) Other things you might notice are listed below. If this list doesn’t appeal to you, then try the list on page 1000; 91:7.5-12.
- The personal acknowledgment of the Spirit of Truth gives new spiritual power and augments all of the spiritual influences previously experienced by God-knowing souls. (p2061:8 194:2.10)
- The coming of the Spirit of Truth purifies the human heart and leads the recipient to formulate a life purpose single to the will of God and the welfare of men. (p2065:07)
- Destroys the believer’s feeling of orphanhood and loneliness. (p2061:00)
- Unifies life, ennobles character, and simplifies experience. (p1103:06)
- Enters the human mind to elevate, transform, and transfigure it. (p1103:06)
- The joy of this outpoured spirit, when it is consciously experienced in human life, is a tonic for health, a stimulus for mind, and an unfailing energy for the soul. (2065:07)
- Will always speak, saying, “This is the way.” (p383:02)
- When in the heart, he reveals the Creator Son to men and enables them to yield the “fruits of the spirit”; and in so doing shows forth the traits which the Master manifested in his earthly life. (p2062:11 194:3.1)
BonitaParticipant
Sep 21, 2014, 4:01 PM

MidiChlorian wrote: . . . but, can one put too much emphasis on the alter ego approach, and loose their way, where they become so focused on the God within and loose sight of themselves and others.

Isn’t loosing sight of yourself the goal, the goal we know as selflessness? (140:5.5; 194:3.19)

MidiChlorian wrote: In other words, would God not want the individual to project His Will upon others as that individual and not as a God who has taken control of that persons free will?

First of all, I don’t think God wants us to project his will on others. Each person is supposed to determine God’s will individually; and, God’s will is different for each person. God’s will is a personal religious experience and not to be projected upon others as some sort of force or power. And God never takes over or controls free will; that is an impossibility. The personality, your personality, is always in full control of free will. It’s how you choose to use your free will that God cares about. Learning how God would like you to use it can only be approached by actually learning how God would use it if he were in your situation.

How would you know what decisions are most God-like without know what God is like? We have to learn what God is like, what his nature is like, how his mind works, how he thinks. The “mind of Jesus” is the best approach, and the alter ego which has become a more Jesus-like or God-like alter ego, can get the ball rolling. You have to first be able to imagine what a loving divine brother/father would think and do in a given situation. After you try it, then you perfect it. Eventually the alter ego evolves into something that you recognize as holy and worthy of respect. If you haven’t tried it, then I’m not sure you can understand. But I can assure you that it is not something that goes on solely within the creative imagination of the playful mind. It must be acted out and worked on within the realm of experiential reality. That means one cannot ignore life and the people in it. To learn to do the will of God requires all of reality, both within the mind and without, and eventually, all persons both lovely and unlovely.
BonitaParticipant
Sep 21, 2014, 4:23 PM

MidiChlorian wrote:

But, as you indicate above, when a normal minded individual attempts to differentiate between “the spirit influences” since they “work as one in the human mind” how can one determine contention, if they act as one? I’m not sure of what you mean by “a war in your mind”, is it where this oneness takes on opposing thoughts or roles? Where one is impressing or urging one thing and then contradicts itself, like a conscience would? That might make sense, where that which is positive is God and that which is negative is the warring mind, as long as one knows the difference between the two, and this would not be the case with a person with schizophrenia?

The war in the mind would be between the material self and the emerging divine self. A progressing personality will inevitably encounter conflict within the mind between these two levels of living, material and spiritual, human and divine. It’s designed to be that way, where we learn to rely on the unity of spiritual influences within our mind to show us the way out of chaos and confusion caused by the friction between the two levels of living.

Remember that we are told numerous times that there can be no growth without psychic conflict (100:4.2), that moral choosing is accompanied by conflict between egoism and altruism (103:2.7). No normal mind can stand the psychic conflict of double allegiance for long, sooner or later a choice must be made between the human, material, egoistic choice or the divine, spiritual, altruistic choice. Until that choice is made, there is warfare in the mind.

Once the choice is made, the consequences must be experienced. This is where a normal mind will have the opportunity to determine whether or not it was a wise or unwise choice. Did the choice bring peace of mind or did it perpetuate the conflict or create new ones? The spirits of worship and wisdom are designed to help us with this, as does the cosmic mind reality recognition response aided by the Holy Spirit, the Spirit of Truth and the Adjuster, all who act as one unified spirit influence. If the consequences of our actions bring more psychic turmoil, sooner or later the normal minded individual will recognize the futility of their thinking and look for new options. Those options not born of the unified spirit forces within, will continue to result in dissatisfaction. But these spiritual forces continue to labor and toil until finally the mind wakes up to them. To those who have become accustomed to looking for options that Jesus or a loving Father-God might choose, the struggle is much easier. His yoke is easy and his burden is light.

133:7.12 The human mind does not well stand the conflict of double allegiance. It is a severe strain on the soul to undergo the experience of an effort to serve both good and evil. The supremely happy and efficiently unified mind is the one wholly dedicated to the doing of the will of the Father in heaven. Unresolved conflicts destroy unity and may terminate in mind disruption. But the survival character of a soul is not fostered by attempting to secure peace of mind at any price, by the surrender of noble aspirations, and by the compromise of spiritual ideals; rather is such peace attained by the stalwart assertion of the triumph of that which is true, and this victory is achieved in the overcoming of evil with the potent force of good.

159:3.7 Forewarn all believers regarding the fringe of conflict which must be traversed by all who pass from the life as it is lived in the flesh to the higher life as it is lived in the spirit. To those who live quite wholly within either realm, there is little conflict or confusion, but all are doomed to experience more or less uncertainty during the times of transition between the two levels of living. In entering the kingdom, you cannot escape its responsibilities or avoid its obligations, but remember: The gospel yoke is easy and the burden of truth is light.
BonitaParticipant
Sep 21, 2014, 4:56 PM

MidiChlorian wrote:

So, if one assumes that humans are still animals, and have a limited “brain capacity” would we need to wait until our human brains grow larger to be able to have more capacity, to house more or additional “adjutant mind-spirit” influences, and then as in other responses if personality is the controller, how would the personalities innateness as related to instinct, play on the adjutant’s?

Not sure what you’re talking about Midi. Humans are superanimals. There will come a time when we have reached the limits of biologic evolution and our brain capacity will be at its peak. The UB says this will happen in the fifth epoch of the light and life era. At this point I can only speculate what will happen then. I assume there will not be more or additional adjutant influences, but rather their coordinate ability to function will be enhanced by this increased capacity.

Even now, as we presently are evolution-wise, we are told that even before fusion additional mind ministries are made available to us. But these mind ministries are not the adjutant mind-spirits. When an individual enters the first psychic circle ” . . . mind becomes increasingly akin to the intelligence of the morontia stage of evolution, the conjoined ministry of the cosmic mind and the superadjutant endowment of the Creative Spirit of a local universe.” (110:6.21) The super adjutant endowment of the Creative Spirit is the Holy Spirit or supermind of the soul. This means that the adjutants lose influence while the cosmic mind and Holy Spirit superimpose them. In other words, the morontia mind becomes the primary mind ministry. At the first psychic circle level occurs “. . . the superimposition of the endowment of morontia mind upon adjutant mind initiates the prespiritual or morontia career of local universe progression.” (112:6.9) One naturally assumes that most individuals living on a world that has reached the limits of its biologic evolution will be capable of reaching the first psychic circle.
AnonymousInactive
Sep 21, 2014, 6:22 PM

Bonita wrote:

It’s not that hard to do if you have any loyalty to Michael at all, even a smidgeon is enough.

I can see understanding the teachings of Jesus, because He could be associated to humans, but when we take into account that “Michael” would be represented as a archangel in relation to the hierarchy in heaven, and that there are numerous “Michael’s” within that structure, and would be considered as spirit, and supreme sovereign, of this local universe, then why swear loyalty to one and go directly to the Father of all. Would this also not be a conflict, where if we are to do the Fathers will, and act upon it through Michael’s truth, then would there also not already be less conflict in the world today. When living life in the flesh on Earth or living in the spirit on a Morontia world, where we would not know the difference, would there not be a continuation of life? Regardless of whether life is eternal or not, how would any of us know the difference. So, to swear a loyalty to a spiritual being, would not be logical unless everyone else also had the same choices. So, who would one swear loyalty to, Jesus, Michael or Our Father? Then there is the Holy Spirit, who it has been said that having know the Holy Spirit and by rejecting the Holy Spirit, that this would be the only unforgivable sin, therefore, would it not be advisable to be loyal to one and since the Holy Spirit is closest to us, material beings, not choose one over the other?
AnonymousInactive
Sep 21, 2014, 7:07 PM

Bonita wrote:

The UB is pretty clear what happens if you have the mind of Jesus within you: “If any man has Christ Jesus within him, he is a new creature; old things are passing away; behold, all things are becoming new.” (p1103:06) Other things you might notice are listed below. If this list doesn’t appeal to you, then try the list on page 1000; 91:7.5-12.

When one looks at your alternate UB reference, given above, “91:7.5-12” it is found in the section which specks of “Mysticism, Ecstasy, and Inspiration”.

Where in its first notations indicates the following:

(1000.2)91:7.1 Mysticism, as the technique of the cultivation of the consciousness of the presence of God, is altogether praiseworthy, but when such practices lead to social isolation and culminate in religious fanaticism, they are all but reprehensible. Altogether too frequently that which the overwrought mystic evaluates as divine inspiration is the uprisings of his own deep mind. The contact of the mortal mind with its indwelling Adjuster, while often favored by devoted meditation, is more frequently facilitated by wholehearted and loving service in unselfish ministry to one’s fellow creatures.

“But when such practices lead to social Isolation and culminate in religious fanaticism,” yet what you describe, could this not also be described as “religious fanaticism” to a point of mysticism. It is one thing to say that, if your mind doesn’t please you, use the “mind of Jesus”, but how would you explain this to others if it would not appear as a mystic approach or thought?

Then there is your alternate list:

(1000.6)91:7.5 The practical test of all these strange religious experiences of mysticism, ecstasy, and inspiration is to observe whether these phenomena cause an individual:

(1000.7)91:7.6 1. To enjoy better and more complete physical health.

(1000.8)91:7.7 2. To function more efficiently and practically in his mental life.

(1000.9)91:7.8 3. More fully and joyfully to socialize his religious experience.

(1000.10)91:7.9 4. More completely to spiritualize his day-by-day living while faithfully discharging the commonplace duties of routine mortal existence.

(1001.1)91:7.10 5. To enhance his love for, and appreciation of, truth, beauty, and goodness.

(1001.2)91:7.11 6. To conserve currently recognized social, moral, ethical, and spiritual values.

(1001.3)91:7.12 7. To increase his spiritual insight — God-consciousness.

(1001.4)91:7.13 But prayer has no real association with these exceptional religious experiences. When prayer becomes overmuch aesthetic, when it consists almost exclusively in beautiful and blissful contemplation of paradisiacal divinity, it loses much of its socializing influence and tends toward mysticism and the isolation of its devotees. There is a certain danger associated with overmuch private praying which is corrected and prevented by group praying, community devotions.

Which is followed by “91:7.13” which indicates that the list above are “exceptional religious experiences.” And then indicates that “There is a certain danger associated with overmuch private praying”, where I mention this because the tone of your responses might indicate a certain “ecstasy” in there phrasing. Also, the list above might be questionable as to their implications as indicated within the context of the subject.

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