What kind of influence (if any) do angels have over decisions we make?

44 posts · 8 participants · started May 20, 2015, 9:26 PM

1. V

   VernParticipant
   May 26, 2015, 7:55 AM

   Hi Everyone,

   Angels are sychronised beautifully with your Thought Adjuster and are active in initiating the impulse to prayer.

   The impulse of worship largely originates in the spirit promptings of the higher mind adjutants, reinforced by the leadings of the Adjuster. But the urge to pray so often experienced by God-conscious mortals very often arises as the result of seraphic influence. The guarding seraphim is constantly manipulating the mortal environment for the purpose of augmenting the cosmic insight of the human ascender to the end that such a survival candidate may acquire enhanced realization of the presence of the indwelling Adjuster and thus be enabled to yield increased co-operation with the spiritual mission of the divine presence.  [Paper ^{113:4.4, page 1245.4]}

   On resurrection day we’ll meet our serapic guardians who have loved us during our life time.

   It is indeed an epoch in the career of an ascending mortal, this first awakening on the shores of the mansion world; there, for the first time, actually to see your long-loved and ever-present angelic companions of earth days; there also to become truly conscious of the identity and presence of the divine Monitor who so long indwelt your mind on earth. Such an experience constitutes a glorious awakening, a real resurrection.  [Paper^{113:7.1, page 1248.1]}

    

    

2. M

   MaraParticipant
   May 26, 2015, 7:14 PM

   Brooklyn_born wrote:. . .what does TUB say regarding freedom of choice? Is there a backdoor to our being that allows angels to circumvent our decision making authority?

   I’ve been pondering your question BB. I don’t expect an answer from you, but I thought of one possibility – one motivation – for your inquiry.  I wonder if you ask, because of a predominant Christian  belief that if you do not profess your belief in Jesus, then the devil has got you.  People are concerned about this and they are worried about family, friends, and governments too.  Hopefully, the UB will de-confuse folks someday.

   66:8:6   The doctrine of a personal devil on Urantia, though it had some foundation in the planetary presence of the traitorous and iniquitous Caligastia, was nevertheless wholly fictitious in its teachings that such a “devil” could influence the normal human mind against its free and natural choosing. Even before Michael’s bestowal on Urantia, neither Caligastia nor Daligastia was ever able to oppress mortals or to coerce any normal individual into doing anything against the human will. The free will of man is supreme in moral affairs; even the indwelling Thought Adjuster refuses to compel man to think a single thought or to perform a single act against the choosing of man’s own will.

   
3. V

   VernParticipant
   May 27, 2015, 7:42 AM

   Hello friends,

   There is a distinct group of Planetary Helper Seraphim who work within the scheme of Seraphic Planetary Government, The Souls of Peace are one such group, who labour with us to supplant the atonement idea with the concept of divine attunement. Thereby free us from the erroneous thinking that has hampered the acceptance of the invitation to be perfect as our Father is perfect. The notion that mankind is somehow in a fallen situation is erroneous. We are delayed perhaps, but not fallen.

   3. The Souls of Peace. The early millenniums of the upward strivings of evolutionary men are marked by many a struggle. Peace is not the natural state of the material realms. The worlds first realize “peace on earth and good will among men” through the ministry of the seraphic souls of peace. Although these angels were largely thwarted in their early efforts on Urantia, Vevona, chief of the souls of peace in Adam’s day, was left on Urantia and is now attached to the staff of the resident governor general. And it was this same Vevona who, when Michael was born, heralded to the worlds, as the leader of the angelic host, “Glory to God in Havona and on earth peace and good will among men.” ^{[Paper 39:5.5, page 437.4]}

   In the more advanced epochs of planetary evolution these seraphim are instrumental in supplanting the atonement idea by the concept of divine attunement as a philosophy of mortal survival. ^{[Paper 39:5.6, page 437.5]}

    

4. M

   MaraParticipant
   May 30, 2015, 3:01 AM

   Mara wrote:. . .belief that if you do not profess your belief in Jesus, then the devil has got you

   In reference to my previous comments about using the so-called devil as an influence and excuse not to take responsibility for human tendencies, I’d like to draw your attention to this paragraph.

   P.1609 – §6 “Many times, when you have done evil, you have thought to charge up your acts to the influence of the evil one when in reality you have but been led astray by your own natural tendencies. Did not the Prophet Jeremiah long ago tell you that the human heart is deceitful above all things and sometimes even desperately wicked? How easy for you to become self-deceived and thereby fall into foolish fears, divers lusts, enslaving pleasures, malice, envy, and even vengeful hatred!

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