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The Urantia Book and the Soul

48 posts · 9 participants · started Apr 14, 2016, 3:00 PM

  1. One of the major revelations contained within the Urantia Book concerns the soul.  The idea of the soul has been around for millennia, but TUB reveals some new and amazing information worth pondering.  In another thread, member Zuimon posted his views on the soul which are much different from those revealed in TUB, yet with commonality to many existing belief systems.  I decided not to wait for him to start another thread, so I moved his post here for discussion.  I’d like to use it in order to highlight what is written in TUB.  My intent is not to make arguments, but to present ideas consistent with the revelation.

    For me the soul is existential, that being what God’s Soul is all about.  That God (and the same being for us) is first and foremost SOUL.  And that our whole life in Creation is to grow in truth through personality experience, which really means, helps us to understand the soul that we are. So soul, His and our souls, exist in ‘existential land’ wherever that might be.  But it is not in Creation, not in time and space which is ‘experiential land’, the place where our existential soul expresses its two experiential personalities.  And the incredible thing about Paradise as I understand is it being something of a manifestation of the existential Soul that is God.  So that’s why it’s such a big deal being there in our Father’s ‘House’, as you said, being face to face with Him. So I see God (our Mother and Father), created our souls – the souls of all Their children.  And then bestow two personalities on them in our ascending soul status.  And when the time is right, the soul ‘incarnates’, which means, it starts expressing its personalities in Creation.  The soul stays where it is in soul-land, with Creation being, the creation of Soul, so all our souls from God’s through to ours, are Creating – expressing personalities in all the different ways we do.  The soul expressing its personalities is creative, it has an impact on Creation, as we all do by simply living. So the idea of soul being somehow with us and which follows us or is the part of us that survives physical death to wake up in spirit, is simply confusing the spirit-body and spirit part of us with the soul.  And that because the soul is the cause of Creation, so the soul doesn’t need to go anywhere as it is already everywhere and in any time.  However still I feel our souls have a defined ‘space’ within soul-land.  And I even think they are ‘created’, ‘bought into being’, ‘made’, in batches by our Heavenly Soul Parents as the Feelings, move Them. So for me the soul is expressing itself in Creation through its two personalities right from conception, and even possibly before that on other higher levels; and then within the soul is coded all our life’s experiences for eternity, with the pattern simply unfolding as required by its personality expression. So the soul is seeking self-realisation through its personalities in life, just as we being focused on the personality part are trying to also express ourselves truly and lovingly, which in turn is leading us in truth to understand what our own soul is all about.  So our ascension is the first leg of our journey in understanding, not only our own soul, but the Soul that created us.  So by focusing on our feelings and thoughts and trying to understand the truth of them – why we have them, is helping us to get to know the truth of ourselves, which is the truth of soul.  And as we come to understand the truth of our soul, so we are also coming to understand the truth of Soul. And I wonder, can’t you sense or perceive or feel that your soul has been in existence before your adjuster arrived, and that your soul is something far more than just an experientially evolving part of yourself?  Don’t have a longing to be with another person so you can experience all of this together?  Don’t you want to have that other persons indwelling spirit speaking to you through them, knowing it is are helping you become unified in your relationship together?  And conversely knowing your indwelling spirit is inspiring your thoughts so as to communicate your feelings across to them?  And can’t you see within your own life that everything is meticulously planned – even pre-planned, even taking into consideration your free will and every decision and act of will?  That our free will pertains to our personality expression to some small degree, whereas underlying it all is absolute perfection and no freedom whatsoever.  And that the existential needs the experiential so as to experience its existentialism.  Which is why the Soul of God set the whole Creation in motion. I think the animals and the plants, all of nature is perfect in its Natural love, and it’s created.  I think we too are perfect, yet it’s owing to the Rebellion and Default that we’ve become imperfect.  I see perfect as being a relative term.  Sure those humans before the Rebellion were not as ‘perfect’ as more truth-evolved humans are, but they are still perfect in their ‘imperfection’ because they were untainted by Rebellion.  I see imperfection so far as it concerns us humans on Earth is ONLY caused by rebellion, with the Default adding to our woes.  And that at some point we are to no longer want to live in our wrongness, we will want to stop being evil and rebellious, and want to deal with our imperfection, which is what I call doing my Healing, by looking to my feelings for the truth of my problems.

    Zuimon wrote: “For me the soul is existential, that being what God’s Soul is all about. That God (and the same being for us) is first and foremost SOUL”

    The revelation tells us that the soul is morontial, not existential.   Because God the Father is existential, he does not have a soul.  Existential means without beginning or end.  Souls have beginnings; they are brand new realities on the experiential level.  Existential beings are perfect; they do not require experience for perfection, whereas the soul is an experiential acquirement.

    0:5.10  Soul. The soul of man is an experiential acquirement. As a mortal creature chooses to “do the will of the Father in heaven,” so the indwelling spirit becomes the father of a new reality in human experience. The mortal and material mind is the mother of this same emerging reality. The substance of this new reality is neither material nor spiritual–it is morontial. This is the emerging and immortal soul which is destined to survive mortal death and begin the Paradise ascension.

    Zuimon wrote: “And that our whole life in Creation is to grow in truth through personality experience, which really means, helps us to understand the soul that we are.”

    This is not too far from the truth.  However, growing in truth and personality experience does not mean “help us understand the soul that we are,” it means: help us realize the personality that we are.  The seven psychic circles of personality realization are circles of soul growth as well.

    110:6.1 The sum total of personality realization on a material world is contained within the successive conquest of the seven psychic circles of mortal potentiality. Entrance upon the seventh circle marks the beginning of true human personality function. Completion of the first circle denotes the relative maturity of the mortal being. Though the traversal of the seven circles of cosmic growth does not equal fusion with the Adjuster, the mastery of these circles marks the attainment of those steps which are preliminary to Adjuster fusion.

    110:6.3 The psychic circles are not exclusively intellectual, neither are they wholly morontial; they have to do with personality status, mind attainment, soul growth, and Adjuster attunement. The successful traversal of these levels demands the harmonious functioning of the entire personality, not merely of some one phase thereof. The growth of the parts does not equal the true maturation of the whole; the parts really grow in proportion to the expansion of the entire self — the whole self — material, intellectual, and spiritual.

    Zuimon wrote: “So soul, His and our souls, exist in ‘existential land’ wherever that might be.  But it is not in Creation, not in time and space which is ‘experiential land’, the place where our existential soul expresses its two experiential personalities.”  

    To reiterate, God does not have a soul, but he does have a personality.  The two, soul and personality, should not be confused with one another; they are two entirely different entities.  Yes, God does exist in “existential land,” it is called Paradise.  Eventually morontia souls will reach a level of spirit perfection and also exist on Paradise before embarking on new careers as finaliters.   The soul does not have any personality at all initially.  The mother of the soul is the human mind dominated by one single and unique personality with free will.  The father of the soul is the Adjuster, a fragment of God’s personality who leaves “existential land” as a PRE-personality.  Prepersonal  Adjusters are impersonal until they fuse with a personality and become a part of it, but the free will of the single and unique personality continues to reign because the individual is now wholly unwilling to do anything other than God’s will.

    0:5.9 Spirit. The divine spirit that indwells the mind of man — the Thought Adjuster. This immortal spirit is prepersonal — not a personality, though destined to become a part of the personality of the surviving mortal creature.

    I think that’s enough for a first post.  I’ll address the rest in subsequent posts and welcome any other comments.

     

  2. I can’t do a deep dive into the topic myself unfortunately because of time constraints, but just an observation that Zuimon’s perspective fits more in place when considering his perspective on “God” as being of “God the Supreme” rather than “God the Father”.

    While there isn’t a “soul” to God the Father like you point out, there is the “oversoul”, which is the Supreme, 117:5:

    “The great Supreme is the cosmic oversoul of the grand universe … his deity nature is the mosaic composite of the total vastness of all creature-Creator nature throughout the evolving universes.” (117:5.1)

    “Even the experience of man and Adjuster must find echo in the divinity of God the Supreme, for, as the Adjusters experience, they are like the Supreme, and the evolving soul of mortal man is created out of the pre-existent possibility for such experience within the Supreme.” (117:5.11)

    Then from the paper before this one, this interesting relationship is spelled out:

    “The Mystery Monitors are to human beings what the Paradise Trinity is to the Supreme Being. The Adjusters are absolute foundations, and upon absolute foundations freewill choice can cause to be evolved the divine reality of an eternaliter nature, finaliter nature in the case of man, Deity nature in God the Supreme.” (116:3.4)

    For people you have this:

    freewill creature personality decisions + Adjuster = soul development

    For Deity you have?:

    freewill creature-Creator personality decisions + Trinity = oversoul (aka “the great Supreme”) development

  3. tas wrote: Zuimon’s perspective fits more in place when considering his perspective on “God” as being of “God the Supreme” rather than “God the Father”.

    Absolutely!  I agree there are similarities.  I was going to get to the Supreme later since I’m responding to his post sentence by sentence.  The only problem is that he insists that the source of soul is existential, and we all know the Supreme is experiential.  He also states that God is both mother and father to the soul. Yes, the soul has both a mother and father, but the father is the Adjuster and the mother is the mortal mind, an individual circuit of the cosmic mind dominated by a personality who makes choices that resonate in the Supreme. The psychic circles of personality realization and Adjuster attunement is the process by which the soul becomes conscious of a relationship with the Supreme. Also, both the Supreme and the soul are evolutionary, God the Father is not.

    117:6.5   The morontia soul of an evolving mortal is really the son of the Adjuster action of the Universal Father and the child of the cosmic reaction of the Supreme Being, the Universal Mother.

    117:6.8   All soul-evolving humans are literally the evolutionary sons of God the Father and God the Mother, the Supreme Being.

    110:6.16   Perhaps these psychic circles of mortal progression would be better denominated cosmic levels — actual meaning grasps and value realizations of progressive approach to the morontia consciousness of initial relationship of the evolutionary soul with the emerging Supreme Being.

  4. As Jesus said below:

    (1630.3) 145:2.7 “Have you not read also where Ezekiel taught even your fathers that religion must become a reality in your individual experiences? No more shall you use the proverb which says, ‘The fathers have eaten sour grapes and the children’s teeth are set on edge.’ ‘As I live,’ says the Lord God, ‘behold all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son. Only the soul that sins shall die.’ And then Ezekiel foresaw even this day when he spoke in behalf of God, saying: ‘A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you.’

    (2093.6) 196:3.1 Personal, spiritual religious experience is an efficient solvent for most mortal difficulties; it is an effective sorter, evaluator, and adjuster of all human problems. Religion does not remove or destroy human troubles, but it does dissolve, absorb, illuminate, and transcend them. True religion unifies the personality for effective adjustment to all mortal requirements. Religious faith — the positive leading of the indwelling divine presence — unfailingly enables the God-knowing man to bridge that gulf existing between the intellectual logic which recognizes the Universal First Cause as It and those positive affirmations of the soul which aver this First Cause is He, the heavenly Father of Jesus’ gospel, the personal God of human salvation.

     

  5. Zuimon wrote: “And the incredible thing about Paradise as I understand is it being something of a manifestation of the existential Soul that is God.”

    Paradise is a manifestation of the theoretical I AM.

    0:3.22 In this original transaction the theoretical I AM achieved the realization of personality by becoming the Eternal Father of the Original Son simultaneously with becoming the Eternal Source of the Isle of Paradise.

    I’ve never heard of the I AM being referred to as the existential soul. The word “soul,” as used in TUB, means an experiential, evolutionary, morontia entity.  Even the oversoul of creation is an experiential, evolutionary entity.  So, soul is always experiential.  The I AM, the theoretical source of the Trinity, are all existential, non-evolutionary and spiritual.

    Zuimon wrote: “So I see God (our Mother and Father), created our souls – the souls of all Their children. And then bestow two personalities on them in our ascending soul status.”

    This is not far from the truth. As stated before, God the Father is one of the parents of our souls, the mother is our own mind, which is provided for us by the local universe Creative Spirit, Divine Minister or Universe Mother Spirit.  I might add that the Father of the soul, the Adjuster, is existential and spiritual.  The mother of the soul, the human mind, is experiential and material.  The soul is morontial and morontial reality is a combination of material and spiritual reality.

    0:5.12 The warp of morontia is spiritual; its woof is physical.

    It is also true that souls are created, which is why they are not existential and do not come from “existential land”.  Existential beings and entities are not created, they simply are.  That which comes from “existential land” is personality and the soul could not exist without a mortal personality making the choice to create one.  Each person on this earth gets only one unique personality.  The Adjuster is a pre-personality, not a personality.

    16:8.3 Personality is a unique endowment of original nature whose existence is independent of, and antecedent to, the bestowal of the Thought Adjuster.

    Zuimon wrote: “And when the time is right, the soul ‘incarnates’, which means, it starts expressing its personalities in Creation.”

    Souls do not incarnate.  It’s impossible.  Souls are morontia and cannot function on the material, or carnal, level of reality.  And philosophically, if you concede to incarnation, then logically you must concede to reincarnation, something that also doesn’t happen to souls.  So it’s murky and dangerous ground to claim that souls incarnate.

    111:3.2 The soul, being supermaterial, does not of itself function on the material level of human experience.

    But I agree that once the soul is born, (created by both its parents), it is capable of “expressing” itself.  It expresses itself by growing in and of itself.

    p1282:1 117:3.6 Man consciously grows from the material toward the spiritual by the strength, power, and persistency of his own decisions; he also grows as his Thought Adjuster develops new techniques for reaching down from the spiritual to the morontial soul levels; and once the soul comes into being, it begins to grow in and of itself.

  6. Zuimon wrote: “The soul stays where it is in soul-land, with Creation being, the creation of Soul, so all our souls from God’s through to ours, are Creating – expressing personalities in all the different ways we do.The soul expressing its personalities is creative, it has an impact on Creation, as we all do by simply living.”
    There is no such place as “soul-land” unless you are referring to the oversoul of creation, the Supreme.  But the Supreme does not create souls, store souls or dispense souls.  Souls exist only if they have an identity in the universe, and the soul must have a Spirit partner, for us an Adjuster, in order to have universe identity.
    113:6.5  The guardian seraphim is the custodial trustee of the survival values of mortal man’s slumbering soul as the absent Adjuster is the identity of such an immortal universe being.
    The soul does not create, it is the product of co-creation, a relationship between creature and Creator.  Personality is necessary for co-creation because it is the source of volition (power). The expression of the Supreme is based upon the co-creative activities of all the personalities in “experiential land”. One soul, one personality, one Adjuster co-creating at a time, contributing to the whole.  These co-creations are part of the evolution of the Supreme, in a sense, bringing him to fruition.  Personalities who prefer not to co-create are absorbed into the Deity of the Supreme.  The soul is not absorbed since the soul ceases to exist.  It is the personality that returns to the oversoul of creation.  The personality is divine and must return to Deity.  Having had experience, instead of returning to the Universal Father on Paradise, its source, it returns to the Supreme in “experience-land”.

    117:4.2 Throughout the grand universe the Supreme struggles for expression. His divine evolution is in measure predicated on the wisdom-action of every personality in existence. When a human being chooses eternal survival, he is cocreating destiny; and in the life of this ascending mortal the finite God finds an increased measure of personality self-realization and an enlargement of experiential sovereignty. But if a creature rejects the eternal career, that part of the Supreme which was dependent on this creature’s choice experiences inescapable delay, a deprivation which must be compensated by substitutional or collateral experience; as for the personality of the nonsurvivor, it is absorbed into the oversoul of creation, becoming a part of the Deity of the Supreme.

    And “simply living” is not synonymous with creating or co-creating.  To co-create requires doing God’s will.  Co-creation is a process of bring truth, beauty and goodness to life.  Just being alive is not good enough.  We must commit our lives to doing God’s will on earth, co-create with him.

    116:4.8 The local universes are the starting points of true evolution, the spawning grounds of bona fide imperfect personalities endowed with the freewill choice of becoming cocreators of themselves as they are to be.
    117:1.4 Man can work in liaison with God and thereby cocreate an eternal finaliter.
    117:4.2 When a human being chooses eternal survival, he is cocreating destiny; and in the life of this ascending mortal the finite God finds an increased measure of personality self-realization and an enlargement of experiential sovereignty.

    Zuimon wrote: “So the idea of soul being somehow with us and which follows us or is the part of us that survives physical death to wake up in spirit, is simply confusing the spirit-body and spirit part of us with the soul.”
    I wish I could understand this sentence, but I can’t, so there’s little to say except that the soul does survive physical death in the hands of the guardians, and the spirit, or Adjuster, is eternal.  When the two combine in the resurrection halls, identity resumes in morontia form.  What the spirit-body is, I cannot say.
    Zuimon wrote:  “And that because the soul is the cause of Creation, so the soul doesn’t need to go anywhere as it is already everywhere and in any time.”
    Obviously the soul is not the cause of Creation; it is co-creational.  Creation, at least in “experiential-land”  is the role of the Creative Sons and Creative Spirits.  And, if this is in reference to the Supreme, neither is the Supreme the cause of creation. Yes the Supreme is evolving in every space and every time, but again, the Supreme is not a soul.  However, the evolution of the Supreme can be compared to the evolution of the soul:
    117:3.7  This is somewhat like the way in which the Supreme Being expands. His sovereignty grows in and out of the acts and achievements of the Supreme Creator Personalities; that is the evolution of the majesty of his power as the ruler of the grand universe. His deity nature is likewise dependent on the pre-existent unity of the Paradise Trinity. But there is still another aspect to the evolution of God the Supreme: He is not only Creator-evolved and Trinity-derived; he is also self-evolved and self-derived. God the Supreme is himself a volitional, creative participant in his own deity actualization. The human morontial soul is likewise a volitional, cocreative partner in its own immortalization.

    117:3.12 The Supreme Being did not create man, but man was literally created out of, his very life was derived from, the potentiality of the Supreme. Nor does he evolve man; yet is the Supreme himself the very essence of evolution. From the finite standpoint, we actually live, move, and have our being within the immanence of the Supreme.

    Zuimon wrote: “However still I feel our souls have a defined ‘space’ within soul-land.  And I even think they are ‘created’, ‘bought into being’, ‘made’, in batches by our Heavenly Soul Parents as the Feelings, move Them.”
    To reiterate, there is no “soul-land” and each soul is co-created.  Souls are not made in batches, like cookies.  Each soul is a unique co-creation between God and man.  And, souls are not co-created by feelings; they are born as the result of a decision and they grow with repeated decisions to do God’s will.
  7. Appreciate your starting this topic on the soul, Bonita. It helps tremendously to have these concepts described so clearly. Look forward to further illumination on the Supreme Being also. :good:

    The more closely man approaches God through love, the greater the reality — actuality — of that man. 117:4.14 (1285.3)

  8.  

    Hi everyone,

    My intent is not to make arguments, but to present ideas consistent with the revelation. Bonita

    Idem, Zuimon. I can’t really discuss your opinion.

    Regarding your standpoint: I’m out.

    Brotherly yours,

     

     

     

  9. Thank you Andre and Angela.  I appreciate your comments.  I’m glad that you recognize that I’m not here to argue or belittle Zuimon’s beliefs, but to contrast them against what is written in TUB.  I’m  trying to highlight the differences (and some similarities) strictly for learning purposes.  I don’t know if I’m doing a good enough job of that, but I just wanted to establish my intentions so there is no confusion.

    Zuimon wrote: “So for me the soul is expressing itself in Creation through its two personalities right from conception, and even possibly before that on other higher levels; and then within the soul is coded all our life’s experiences for eternity, with the pattern simply unfolding as required by its personality expression.”

    Again, the soul has no personality until the personality of the mortal makes the decision to identify with it. Souls and personalities are different entities entirely.  Also, the soul does not exist prior to its conception. What exists prior to the conception of the soul are its parents, the human moral mind and the Adjuster. The soul is conceived the moment a personality chooses to do the will of God, also known as the first  moral decision.

    0:5.10-11 Soul. The soul of man is an experiential acquirement. As a mortal creature chooses to “do the will of the Father in heaven,” so the indwelling spirit becomes the father of a new reality in human experience. The mortal and material mind is the mother of this same emerging reality. The substance of this new reality is neither material nor spiritual–it is morontial. This is the emerging and immortal soul which is destined to survive mortal death and begin the Paradise ascension.

    Personality. The personality of mortal man is neither body, mind, nor spirit; neither is it the soul. Personality is the one changeless reality in an otherwise ever-changing creature experience; and it unifies all other associated factors of individuality. The personality is the unique bestowal which the Universal Father makes upon the living and associated energies of matter, mind, and spirit, and which survives with the survival of the morontial soul.

    But I agree that within the soul there is a “code” or “pattern”.  That code or pattern is brought from Paradise by the Adjuster.  Our potential in the universe is more or less predetermined, and it is up to each of us to choose to go along with it or not.

    p1204:5  110:2.1  When Thought Adjusters indwell human minds, they bring with them the model careers, the ideal lives, as determined and foreordained by themselves and the Personalized Adjusters of Divinington, which have been certified by the Personalized Adjuster of Urantia. Thus they begin work with a definite and predetermined plan for the intellectual and spiritual development of their human subjects, but it is not incumbent upon any human being to accept this plan. You are all subjects of predestination, but it is not foreordained that you must accept this divine predestination; you are at full liberty to reject any part or all of the Thought Adjusters’ program. It is their mission to effect such mind changes and to make such spiritual adjustments as you may willingly and intelligently authorize, to the end that they may gain more influence over the personality directionization; but under no circumstances do these divine Monitors ever take advantage of you or in any way arbitrarily influence you in your choices and decisions. The Adjusters respect your sovereignty of personality; they are always subservient to your will.

    Zuimon wrote: “So the soul is seeking self-realisation through its personalities in life, just as we being focused on the personality part are trying to also express ourselves truly and lovingly, which in turn is leading us in truth to understand what our own soul is all about.”

    Yes, the soul seeks God, or spirit reality, but it is the personality that seeks self-realization, or realization of the self as an ongoing universe reality.  (Self-realization does not mean finding yourself, also known as psychotherapy.)

    Personality is the unifying pattern of selfhood. The soul becomes a part of selfhood when the personality identifies with it. The soul does not have a personality of its own, but it does have a mind. However, the soul’s mind cannot make decisions; only personalities make decisions because only personalities have free will.  Souls have no volition until after physical death when the personality joins it.

    The goal in this life is to get the personality to identify with the soul, to transfer its seat of power from the material mind to the mind of the soul, in which case the personality is making decisions with the soul.   The more the personality identifies itself with the soul, uses the soul to help make decisions, the closer it comes to self realization and divinity attainment.  When the personality finally, fully and wholly identifies with the soul, it has attained divinity and will fuse with its source of divinity, the Adjuster.

    Zuimon wrote: “So our ascension is the first leg of our journey in understanding, not only our own soul, but the Soul that created us. “

    We don’t become ascending sons until we fuse with our Adjusters, before that time we are called faith-sons. The first leg of our journey begins the moment the soul is born. The birth of the soul is the beginning of our pre-morontia career.  That first moral decision is essentially passing the entrance exam into pre-school.  The soul qualifies us to be recognized in the universe as potential eternal citizens, with all the benefits associated with membership in the family of God.

    112:6.9 The soul of survival value faithfully reflects both the qualitative and the quantitative actions and motivations of the material intellect, the former seat of the identity of selfhood. In the choosing of truth, beauty, and goodness, the mortal mind enters upon its premorontia universe career under the tutelage of the seven adjutant mind-spirits unified under the direction of the spirit of wisdom. Subsequently, upon the completion of the seven circles of premorontia attainment, the superimposition of the endowment of morontia mind upon adjutant mind initiates the prespiritual or morontia career of local universe progression.

    Zuimon wrote: “So by focusing on our feelings and thoughts and trying to understand the truth of them – why we have them, is helping us to get to know the truth of ourselves, which is the truth of soul.  And as we come to understand the truth of our soul, so we are also coming to understand the truth of Soul.”

    Understanding why we have thoughts is like trying to understand why water is wet.  The purpose of thinking is to elevate it not to analyze it.  If you’re always circling around back searching for causes for effects, you will get stuck in a cause and effect loop that can only make you nauseated and vertiginous. This is the work of science.  Science is concerned with cause and effect.  The science of psychoanalysis is concerned with the cause and effect of feeling and emotion.  Science will not get you to the “truth of your soul”.  Finding yourself through psychoanalysis is a method of conflict analysis, an attempt to neutralize conflicting thoughts and feelings.  The truth is, if your thoughts and feelings are constantly conflicted, chances are you are fighting against reality and ignoring God’s will.  It’s not about finding yourself and the truth of your feelings, it’s about finding God’s will, the only thing that can make you happy.  The truth makes you happy because it can be acted out.

     p42:7  2:7.6  Happiness ensues from the recognition of truth because it can be acted out; it can be lived.  Disappointment and sorrow attend upon error because, not being a reality, it cannot be realized in experience.  Divine truth is best known by its spiritual flavor.

    The truth of your soul is the Spirit of Truth.  What gets you to the Spirit of Truth?  Jesus explained this when he spoke of himself as the “vine”.  He taught that if we stay connected to him we will bear fruit.  The fruit is spiritual fruit and the vine is living truth.  He also taught that if we separate ourselves from him, we will die.  He meant, of course, our souls will die and we will be denied eternal life.  The prayer of communion is the best way to stay connected to the vine, which is staying connected to the Spirit of Truth, the spirit presence of Michael/Jesus.

    180:2.1 Then Jesus stood up again and continued teaching his apostles: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the husbandman. I am the vine, and you are the branches. And the Father requires of me only that you shall bear much fruit. The vine is pruned only to increase the fruitfulness of its branches. Every branch coming out of me which bears no fruit, the Father will take away. Every branch which bears fruit, the Father will cleanse that it may bear more fruit. Already are you clean through the word I have spoken, but you must continue to be clean. You must abide in me, and I in you; the branch will die if it is separated from the vine. As the branch cannot bear fruit except it abides in the vine, so neither can you yield the fruits of loving service except you abide in me. Remember: I am the real vine, and you are the living branches. He who lives in me, and I in him, will bear much fruit of the spirit and experience the supreme joy of yielding this spiritual harvest. If you will maintain this living spiritual connection with me, you will bear abundant fruit. If you abide in me and my words live in you, you will be able to commune freely with me, and then can my living spirit so infuse you that you may ask whatsoever my spirit wills and do all this with the assurance that the Father will grant us our petition. Herein is the Father glorified: that the vine has many living branches, and that every branch bears much fruit. And when the world sees these fruit-bearing branches — my friends who love one another, even as I have loved them — all men will know that you are truly my disciples.

    91:8.10 Genuine prayer adds to spiritual growth, modifies attitudes, and yields that satisfaction which comes from communion with divinity. It is a spontaneous outburst of God-consciousness.

    144:2.2  Prayer is entirely a personal and spontaneous expression of the attitude of the soul toward the spirit; prayer should be the communion of sonship and the expression of fellowship. Prayer, when indited by the spirit, leads to co-operative spiritual progress. The ideal prayer is a form of spiritual communion which leads to intelligent worship. True praying is the sincere attitude of reaching heavenward for the attainment of your ideals.

    196:0.10 The secret of his unparalleled religious life was this consciousness of the presence of God; and he attained it by intelligent prayer and sincere worship — unbroken communion with God — and not by leadings, voices, visions, or extraordinary religious practices.

     

  10. Bonjour à tous/toutes,

    2 things with significance and value happened to me today, Sunday April 17, 2016.

    How grateful I am.

    Merci beaucoup

     

  11. andre wrote: Merci beaucoup

    Vous êtes très bienvenu!

    Zuimon wrote: “And I wonder, can’t you sense or perceive or feel that your soul has been in existence before your adjuster arrived, and that your soul is something far more than just an experientially evolving part of yourself?” 

    No, not at all.  The fact that I can sense spiritual reality is proof that I have a soul.  The Adjuster is the window to the spiritual world. Prior to the birth of the soul, prior to the advent of the Adjuster, the individual is ministered to by the adjutant spirits.  When the adjutant of worship makes contact with a developing mind, it provides the religious impulse to seek for God.  And once a personality becomes conscious of the desire to find God and be like him, it is proof that God has already arrived in that mind.  The soul is born. When it comes to spiritual reality, if we seek, we will find.  It’s guaranteed. It’s a universe law.

    103:0.1 The Thought Adjuster is the cosmic window through which the finite creature may faith-glimpse the certainties and divinities of limitless Deity, the Universal Father.

    195:6.16 And so, when you once start out to find God, that is the conclusive proof that God has already found you.

    36:5.11 6. The spirit of worship – the religious impulse, the first differential urge separating mind creatures into the two basic classes of mortal existence.

    167:5.2 The law of the universe is: Ask and you shall receive; seek and you shall find.

    What good is a pre-existent soul to me if I haven’t earned it, if I haven’t sought for it and acquired it by my own free will?  My soul cannot pre-exist because it is unique to me in that I have been gifted with the freedom to co-create it.  Without my input, it would not exist. The soul is an individual acquirement which results from choosing to God’s will, of my own free will.  Everyone knows that something you’ve earned has much more value to you than a free handout you had no choice in.

    3:5.16  Mortal man earns even his status as an ascension candidate by his own faith and hope. Everything divine which the human mind grasps and the human soul acquires is an experiential attainment; it is a reality of personal experience and is therefore a unique possession in contrast to the inherent goodness and righteousness of the inerrant personalities of Havona.

    5:6.8 Having thus provided for the growth of the immortal soul and having liberated man’s inner self from the fetters of absolute dependence on antecedent causation, the Father stands aside. Now, man having thus been liberated from the fetters of causation response, at least as pertains to eternal destiny, and provision having been made for the growth of the immortal self, the soul, it remains for man himself to will the creation or to inhibit the creation of this surviving and eternal self which is his for the choosing.

    In fact, I’m convinced that the process of transferring identity requires that you own the experience of choosing God’s will.  By owning it, I mean you agree wholeheartedly with God’s will, then put every bit of effort into it that you can muster in order to make it a part of you that will never slip away.  You nail it down by making it a permanent reality, by making it a tangible part of your relationship with the world of persons and things, human and divine.  The soul may not function in the material world, but the personality does.  And the personality has a choice to either follow the soul, illuminated by God, or follow the lower mind with its cacophony of ego-centric feelings .

    1:7.2 Man does not achieve union with God as a drop of water might find unity with the ocean. Man attains divine union by progressive reciprocal spiritual communion, by personality intercourse with the personal God, by increasingly attaining the divine nature through wholehearted and intelligent conformity to the divine will. Such a sublime relationship can exist only between personalities.

    91:9.5 You must make a wholehearted choice of the divine will. You must obliterate the dead center of indecision.

    100:2.1 Spiritual progress is predicated on intellectual recognition of spiritual poverty coupled with the self-consciousness of perfection-hunger, the desire to know God and be like him, the wholehearted purpose to do the will of the Father in heaven.

    100:2.2 Spiritual growth is first an awakening to needs, next a discernment of meanings, and then a discovery of values. The evidence of true spiritual development consists in the exhibition of a human personality motivated by love, activated by unselfish ministry, and dominated by the wholeheartedworship of the perfection ideals of divinity.

    3:5.13 Is unselfishness — the spirit of self-forgetfulness — desirable? Then must mortal man live face to face with the incessant clamoring of an inescapable self for recognition and honor. Man could not dynamically choose the divine life if there were no self-life to forsake. Man could never lay saving hold on righteousness if there were no potential evil to exalt and differentiate the good by contrast.

    However, I admit that I do feel something which is more than me, and that is God’s love. God pre-exists me, and because he does, he can gift me with my own personality, as well as a fragment of his very own pre-existent personality, a pre-personality, the Adjuster.

    0:5.4 Personality is never spontaneous; it is the gift of the Paradise Father.

    6:5.3 Personality is the exclusive gift of the Universal Father.

    0:2.3 1. Prepersonal — as in the ministry of the Father fragments, such as the Thought Adjusters.

    7:5.2 The Eternal Son cannot contact directly with human beings as does the Father through the gift of the prepersonal Thought Adjusters . .

    Souls grow, they do not suddenly appear in a state of perfection; they must evolve to a perfected state.  God is capable of making us all instantly perfect, but that would deny us the opportunity to choose. Choosing to become perfected has much more value than being born that way, as evidenced by the description of Havona natives in quote 3:5.17.  There is a wide difference between a state of perfection and a perfected state, and that difference is the difference between Creator and creature. Only the Creator is perfect.  We creatures can never be perfect in the sense that our Creator is perfect, but we can become perfected. As finaliters we become a unique combination of perfect and perfected, but that’s another topic.

    32:3.11 In all this is shown the wisdom of the Creators. It would be just as easy for the Universal Father to make all mortals perfect beings, to impart perfection by his divine word. But that would deprive them of the wonderful experience of the adventure and training associated with the long and gradual inward climb, an experience to be had only by those who are so fortunate as to begin at the very bottom of living existence.

    3:5.17  The creatures of Havona are naturally brave, but they are not courageous in the human sense. They are innately kind and considerate, but hardly altruistic in the human way. They are expectant of a pleasant future, but not hopeful in the exquisite manner of the trusting mortal of the uncertain evolutionary spheres. They have faith in the stability of the universe, but they are utter strangers to that saving faith whereby mortal man climbs from the status of an animal up to the portals of Paradise. They love the truth, but they know nothing of its soul-saving qualities. They are idealists, but they were born that way; they are wholly ignorant of the ecstasy of becoming such by exhilarating choice. They are loyal, but they have never experienced the thrill of wholehearted and intelligent devotion to duty in the face of temptation to default. They are unselfish, but they never gained such levels of experience by the magnificent conquest of a belligerent self. They enjoy pleasure, but they do not comprehend the sweetness of the pleasure escape from the pain potential. 

    117:7.6 Man’s urge for Paradise perfection, his striving for God-attainment, creates a genuine divinity tension in the living cosmos which can only be resolved by the evolution of an immortal soul; this is what happens in the experience of a single mortal creature.

    105:5.9 These, then, are the two original manifestations: the constitutively perfect and the evolutionally perfected. The two are co-ordinate in eternity relationships, but within the limits of time they are seemingly different. A time factor means growth to that which grows; secondary finites grow; hence those that are growing must appear as incomplete in time. But these differences, which are so important this side of Paradise, are nonexistent in eternity.

    181:1.2 And so will the children of light go on from glory to glory until they attain the divine estate wherein they are spiritually perfected even as the Father is perfect in all things.

  12. Thanks Bonita….enjoying all of this very much.  Perhaps you could provide additional information linking the soul, the gravity circuits, and the transference of the seat of our identity.  Love and peace Sister.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  13. Love and peace Sister.

    Right backatcha Brother.  So glad you’re enjoying my work.  It makes it more worthwhile knowing that.  So, in regards to gravity circuits and transfer of dominance, do you want that all tied together into an essay on soul growth and circle progress?  Or, did you want each type of gravity discussed individually?  There’s so much to talk about there. Everything overlaps and circles around again, so I’m not sure how to organize it all.  If I don’t prioritize it, I will write for days and days and days . . . until you get sick of it.

  14. Zuimon wrote: “Don’t have a longing to be with another person so you can experience all of this together?  Don’t you want to have that other persons indwelling spirit speaking to you through them, knowing it is are helping you become unified in your relationship together?  And conversely knowing your indwelling spirit is inspiring your thoughts so as to communicate your feelings across to them?”  

    I think all personalities yearn to share with other personalities.  There is no such thing as a personality in total isolation.  An isolated personality is a non-existent personality.  The longing I feel in my soul is to share my personality with the personality residing in it.  Jesus left his Spirit of Truth for us as a companion.  He said that without him, we would feel like orphans.  Sharing my personality with the Spirit of Truth in my soul relieves me of any possible loneliness I can feel.

    194.2.2  The first mission of this spirit is, of course, to foster and personalize truth, for it is the comprehension of truth that constitutes the highest form of human liberty. Next, it is the purpose of this spirit to destroy the believer’s feeling of orphanhood. Jesus having been among men, all believers would experience a sense of loneliness had not the Spirit of Truth come to dwell in men’s hearts.

    The idea of having another person’s indwelling Spirit talk to me is just weird. I don’t think it works that way.  My Adjuster is in my mind and and your Adjuster is in yours.  They pretty much stay there. My Adjuster is not interested in telling you what is good for you and if your Adjuster starts telling me what is good for me, I’ll be looking for the fastest escape route.  No thanks.  When Jesus said that we are all the same in Spirit, he meant that we all have the same Father.  Adjusters are all identical; they only differ in experience.

    108:1.1 When Adjusters are dispatched for mortal service from Divinington, they are identical in the endowment of existential divinity, but they vary in experiential qualities proportional to previous contact in and with evolutionary creatures.

    16:8.3 Thought Adjusters, when they come forth from the Father, are identical in nature,  . . .

    Zuimon wrote:  “And can’t you see within your own life that everything is meticulously planned – even pre-planned, even taking into consideration your free will and every decision and act of will?  That our free will pertains to our personality expression to some small degree, whereas underlying it all is absolute perfection and no freedom whatsoever.  And that the existential needs the experiential so as to experience its existentialism.  Which is why the Soul of God set the whole Creation in motion.”

    No freedom whatsoever?  The whole reason for creation is to exercise freedom.  God, the I AM, freed himself from the fetters of unqualified reality by exercising his free will.  That is how the Trinity came into existence, as well as the Isle of Paradise, “existential land”. And then free will created the Central Universe, and then went on to create God the Sevenfold, “experiential land”. If God has free will, we all have it too, being made in his image.  And God has decreed that no one and no thing can interfere with the sovereignty of free will, and his decree is absolute.  But, if and when God the Absolute finally emerges, perhaps at that time there will be an exhaustion of all potential choices, but not necessarily the end of free will.  Even the revelators have no idea what will happen then.

    0:3.21 As a time-space creature would view the origin and differentiation of Reality, the eternal and infinite I AM achieved Deity liberation from the fetters of unqualified infinity through the exercise of inherent and eternal free will, and this divorcement from unqualified infinity produced the first absolute divinity-tension.

    0:10.2 God the Absolute is the realization-attainment goal of all superabsonite beings, but the power and personality potential of the Deity Absolute transcends our concept, and we hesitate to discuss those realities which are so far removed from experiential actualization.

    5:6.8 Having thus provided for the growth of the immortal soul and having liberated man’s inner self from the fetters of absolute dependence on antecedent causation, the Father stands aside. Now, man having thus been liberated from the fetters of causation response, at least as pertains to eternal destiny, and provision having been made for the growth of the immortal self, the soul, it remains for man himself to will the creation or to inhibit the creation of this surviving and eternal self which is his for the choosing. No other being, force, creator, or agency in all the wide universe of universes can interfere to any degree with the absolute sovereignty of the mortal free will, as it operates within the realms of choice, regarding the eternal destiny of the personality of the choosing mortal. As pertains to eternal survival, God has decreed the sovereignty of the material and mortal will, and that decree is absolute.

    Perfection actually means freedom.  The more perfected we become, the more freedom and personal liberty we have.  This is because the perfecting process results in greater self-control, or self-mastery.

    132:3.10   Universe progress is characterized by increasing personality freedom because it is associated with the progressive attainment of higher and higher levels of self-understanding and consequent voluntary self-restraint. The attainment of perfection of spiritual self-restraint equals completeness of universe freedom and personal liberty.

    195:6.16   Freedom or initiative in any realm of existence is directly proportional to the degree of spiritual influence and cosmic-mind control; that is, in human experience, the degree of the actuality of doing “the Father’s will.” And so, when you once start out to find God, that is the conclusive proof that God has already found you.

    Jesus came to set men free. He opened the door and showed the way to self-mastery.  Self-mastery is the purpose the psychic or cosmic circles.  They are the means by which we learn cosmic-mind control, soul growth and personality realization.  He set us free to grow, not just spiritually, but as whole personalities.  There is no way to do that without making choices and there is no way to make choices without the ability to pick between all the options.

    39:4.14 The keys of the kingdom of heaven are: sincerity, more sincerity, and more sincerity. All men have these keys. Men use them — advance in spirit status — by decisions, by more decisions, and by more decisions.

  15. Love and peace Sister.

    Right backatcha Brother. So glad you’re enjoying my work. It makes it more worthwhile knowing that. So, in regards to gravity circuits and transfer of dominance, do you want that all tied together into an essay on soul growth and circle progress? Or, did you want each type of gravity discussed individually? There’s so much to talk about there. Everything overlaps and circles around again, so I’m not sure how to organize it all. If I don’t prioritize it, I will write for days and days and days . . . until you get sick of it.

    Might we begin with the “tied together” essay?  And then dive into a more detailed articulation of the many moving parts?  Agreed there is so much to tie together….there are so many agents, influences, circuits to consider.  To harmonize or unify them provides an important perspective.  I am sorry Zuimon has left us but glad for his posts here as I think so much of his personal philosophy and perspective is quite representative of a wide spectrum of beliefs commonly held by many who do not benefit by the facts and relationships portrayed in the Revelation to help sort out truth from error – so many New/Old Age beliefs grip so many perspectives of so many God believers (while some are truly creative and personalized, so many more are just forms of primitivisms and falsehoods).  While I certainly agree that no believer (in God) requires such information as provided in the Papers for soul growth and spirit progress, those of us who have such knowledge are guided more clearly and we are blessed thereby.  But it is my confident belief that we are but the tip of what such knowledge will bring and result in over the coming decades and centuries for Urantia.  This is a gift FOR epochal transformation of our world….another seed of truth and fact gifted for this purpose….as go the parts, so goes the whole!

    I think the student body of sincere readers has an opportunity to develop personal understanding and utilization/implementation of the teachings, but even more importantly, in its way, is to develop scholarship and formats of learning from AND teaching one another what the Papers say.  What it means depends upon each student to discern, embrace, and express what it says/teaches in our daily life to truly learn and progress thereby.  I will not say students are so obligated to share, to learn together, and teach one another – however, this is the model of the past 4 epochals and the universe at large, so why not embrace that here and now (as all here do!).  The seeds of truth, beauty, and goodness that bring forth spirit fruit in our own lives may be shared in so many ways.  But the effects over time to our world and long after we have departed of such sharing and caring create an ever growing and lasting legacy, a gift from the present for the future of our world.

    Those who attend here now benefit…but the footprints upon this trail of discovery will remain for those who come long after.  We create a culture of learning, sharing, and caring that is very important both now and in time to come.  Unity of purpose without uniformity of perspective is not so easy…..or not so in a world where differences define us more than all that we have in common.  As more and more of humanity looks inward and upward and outward into the heavens of creation, those differences will come to be appreciated and embraced as we all face eternity together as the family we truly are.  All souls and every soul has the capacity and potential for never ending adventure – the adventure of discovery, learning, doing, transcending, serving, and creating.

    This common destiny potential is best approached and appreciated by undying hope, faith confidence, sincere effort, and in a state of curiosity, peace of mind, happiness, and true joy!  Soul building is obstructed by anxiety, fear, anger, impatience, discomfort with uncertainties (the very intersection of opportunity and adventure and discovery), and all material attachments (not the material reality but the attachment to that reality at the great cost of identifying WITH our material nature rather than transferring the very seat of our personal identity to the Spirit nature gifted to us each and all).

    Thanks Bonita for all the illumination and inspiration to know more, be more, do more…and to be thrilled to live every day as God’s children in this friendly universe!  You’re a peach!!

    :good:

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  16. Bradly wrote: Might we begin with the “tied together” essay?  And then dive into a more detailed articulation of the many moving parts?  Agreed there is so much to tie together….there are so many agents, influences, circuits to consider.  To harmonize or unify them provides an important perspective.

    Okay, will do.  This will be a work in progress, that way we can all contribute to it.  I hope that comments and questions will come with each new addition to this work.  It really helps when people do that, you have no idea!

    I think it best to begin with the concept of the evolution of dominance.  The transfer of identity has to do with this law of cosmic evolution.  Here’s the quote I’m going to begin with:

    112:2.15 The purpose of cosmic evolution is to achieve unity of personality through increasing spirit dominance, volitional response to the teaching and leading of the Thought Adjuster. Personality, both human and superhuman, is characterized by an inherent cosmic quality which may be called “the evolution of dominance,” the expansion of the control of both itself and its environment.

    When it comes to matters of dominance, the most important thing to remember is that personality is always in charge.  Personality drives the car we call selfhood, and because personality is the driver, it determines how selfhood is held together and controlled.  Personality chooses the direction of the car and works to keep the moving parts in balance so they function well. Unity of personality can be had on any cosmic level, including the material, but the purpose of evolution is to grow toward spirit dominance of all the parts.  In fact, the innate drive of all reality is toward spirit dominance.  

    Note the difference between saying, “all reality is drawn toward the spirit level”and “all reality is driven toward spirit dominance”.  If all reality is to become spiritual, then what happens to material and mind reality when that happens?  Material and mind reality is here to stay, the goal is unity of all three levels of reality with spirit dominating the mind and the mind dominating the material level.  There is an ascending hierarchy or priority for direction or orientation only.  All three levels of reality evolve in the direction of spirit, and when they get there, the Supreme will emerge.

    Personality is the pattern of control which unifies the parts of selfhood. Control has to do with volition, the power of personality.  Simply stated, the parts of selfhood controlled and unified by personality are: 1.) the physical body; 2.) the mind and all its ministries; 3.) the soul and all its ministries. I mention the ministries because personality has the freedom to utilize them or not.  All the parts of selfhood, including personality, have their own innate drive toward unity, each on their own level. And all except personality, evolve in the direction of spirit.  Personality itself does not evolve, it never changes, but its identity does, it too evolves in the direction of spirit according to the power of personality volition.  Identity evolution is the same as dominance evolution. The consequence of identity evolution is the birth and growth of the soul.  

    Some other relevant quotes:

    0.6.12 In contrast to the aspect of the total, pattern discloses the individual aspect of energy and of personality. Personality or identity forms are patterns resultant from energy (physical, spiritual, or mindal) but are not inherent therein. That quality of energy or of personality by virtue of which pattern is caused to appear may be attributed to God — Deity — to Paradise force endowment, to the coexistence of personality and power.

    106:2.1  As God the Sevenfold functionally co-ordinates finite evolution, so does the Supreme Being eventually synthesize destiny attainment. The Supreme Being is the deity culmination of grand universe evolution — physical evolution around a spirit nucleus and eventual dominance of the spirit nucleus over the encircling and whirling domains of physical evolution. And all of this takes place in accordance with the mandates of personality: Paradise personality in the highest sense, Creator personality in the universe sense, mortal personality in the human sense, Supreme personality in the culminating or experiential totaling sense.

    111:1.9 Mind is your ship, the Adjuster is your pilot, the human will is captain. The master of the mortal vessel should have the wisdom to trust the divine pilot to guide the ascending soul into the morontia harbors of eternal survival. Only by selfishness, slothfulness, and sinfulness can the will of man reject the guidance of such a loving pilot and eventually wreck the mortal career upon the evil shoals of rejected mercy and upon the rocks of embraced sin. With your consent, this faithful pilot will safely carry you across the barriers of time and the handicaps of space to the very source of the divine mind and on beyond, even to the Paradise Father of Adjusters

    112:0.7  Personality, while devoid of identity, can unify the identity of any living energy system.

    112:0.15  Personality may survive mortal death with identity in the surviving soul. The Adjuster and the personality are changeless; the relationship between them (in the soul) is nothing but change, continuing evolution; and if this change (growth) ceased, the soul would cease.

    112:1.18  In the human organism the summation of its parts constitutes selfhood — individuality — but such a process has nothing whatever to do with personality, which is the unifier of all these factors as related to cosmic realities.

    112:2.1-5 It would be helpful in the study of selfhood to remember:  1. That physical systems are subordinate. 2. That intellectual systems are co-ordinate. 3. That personality is superordinate. 4. That the indwelling spiritual force is potentially directive.

    116:5.15  The spirit struggles of time and space have to do with the evolution of spirit dominance over matter by the mediation of (personal) mind; the physical (nonpersonal) evolution of the universes has to do with bringing cosmic energy into harmony with the equilibrium concepts of mind subject to the overcontrol of spirit. The total evolution of the entire grand universe is a matter of the personality unification of the energy-controlling mind with the spirit-co-ordinated intellect and will be revealed in the full appearance of the almighty power of the Supreme.

    116:6.2  This union of power and personality is expressive on deity levels in and as the Supreme. But the actual evolution of spirit dominance is a growth which is predicated on the freewill acts of the Creators and creatures of the grand universe.

  17. 100:1.8 (1095.3) Religious habits of thinking and acting are contributory to the economy of spiritual growth. One can develop religious predispositions toward favorable reaction to spiritual stimuli, a sort of conditioned spiritual reflex. Habits which favor religious growth embrace cultivated sensitivity to divine values, recognition of religious living in others, reflective meditation on cosmic meanings, worshipful problem solving, sharing one’s spiritual life with one’s fellows, avoidance of selfishness, refusal to presume on divine mercy, living as in the presence of God. The factors of religious growth may be intentional, but the growth itself is unvaryingly unconscious.

    100:1.9 (1095.4) The unconscious nature of religious growth does not, however, signify that it is an activity functioning in the supposed subconscious realms of human intellect; rather does it signify creative activities in the superconscious levels of mortal mind. The experience of the realization of the reality of unconscious religious growth is the one positive proof of the functional existence of the superconsciousness.

    (edited Thurs. a.m. 4/21)

    Thanks Bonita!!  I am excited to study this most important topic….how volition becomes reflex and results in growth, and growth recognition proves the function of the superconscious – a different proof source than the fruits of the spirit.  I am just beginning to see the cloth and not just the threads woven in the cloth.

    Definition of volition

    1 : an act of making a choice or decision; also : a choice or decision made

    2 : the power of choosing or determining : will

    I suggest a review of the text by a key word search of “volition OR volitional” to gain appreciation for how all free will choices made in time and space which are spirit-led bring forth alignment with reality – and growth of the one and the Supreme thereby – or our free will choices are basically irrelevant to reality when not spirit led.  This connection of will/volition to universe reality is very interesting in its effects on the “evolution of dominance”.  The “economy of spiritual growth” in the quote above suggests we consider the term “economy”, which might be defined as a system of resource supply and demand – that which is demanded/needed is supplied according to resources available (infinite love) in a system that is mutually responsive.

    Our volition/will that is reality aligned creates a corresponding reality response – when we choose/demand reality, reality responds/supplies.  The more reality (spirit) is responded to by free will, the more spirit (reality) comes to dominate the one exercising such volition (free will).  We are not conscious of the spiritual growth such volition brings at the time free will is exercised but we can compare today’s spirit dominance to the past and clearly witness our own growth by the differences witnessed in our responses to similar circumstances, situation, and relationship intersections in time.  What once might have taken great thought, care, and willfulness to make a spirit dominated decision/choice by the “mediation of mind” eventually comes to become a “conditioned spiritual reflex” to spiritual stimuli (and every single intersection of situation, circumstance, and relationship choice IS faced with or contains a spiritual stimuli if we can discern it – we are led to choice-opportunities daily for the very purpose of learning to make all choices in “spirit mode” or by spiritual guidance – if we or our selfhood has matured sufficiently to be transferring the seat of our identity – or the seat of our dominance/loyalty/self-identity in making choices/decisions by the “mediation of mind” in all choices faced).

    118:6.4 (1299.7) All volition is relative. In the originating sense, only the Father-I AM possesses finality of volition; in the absolute sense, only the Father, the Son, and the Spirit exhibit the prerogatives of volition unconditioned by time and unlimited by space. Mortal man is endowed with free will, the power of choice, and though such choosing is not absolute, nevertheless, it is relatively final on the finite level and concerning the destiny of the choosing personality.

    118:6.5 (1300.1) Volition on any level short of the absolute encounters limitations which are constitutive in the very personality exercising the power of choice. Man cannot choose beyond the range of that which is choosable. He cannot, for instance, choose to be other than a human being except that he can elect to become more than a man; he can choose to embark upon the voyage of universe ascension, but this is because the human choice and the divine will happen to be coincident upon this point. And what a son desires and the Father wills will certainly come to pass.

    118:6.6 (1300.2) In the mortal life, paths of differential conduct are continually opening and closing, and during the times when choice is possible the human personality is constantly deciding between these many courses of action. Temporal volition is linked to time, and it must await the passing of time to find opportunity for expression. Spiritual volition has begun to taste liberation from the fetters of time, having achieved partial escape from time sequence, and that is because spiritual volition is self-identifying with the will of God.

    118:6.7 (1300.3) Volition, the act of choosing, must function within the universe frame which has actualized in response to higher and prior choosing. The entire range of human will is strictly finite-limited except in one particular: When man chooses to find God and to be like him, such a choice is superfinite; only eternity can disclose whether this choice is also superabsonite.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  18. Thanks so much for the input Bradly.  You don’t know how much I appreciate it.  I was thinking about what you wrote below and have a few comments.
    Bradly wrote: This connection of will/volition to universe reality is very interesting in its effects on the “evolution of dominance”.  The “economy of spiritual growth” in the quote above suggests we consider the term “economy”, which might be defined as a system of resource supply and demand – that which is demanded/needed is supplied according to resources available (infinite love) in a system that is mutually responsive.
    I tend to think that the use of the word “economy” means the management of resources in general.  We are given certain gifts to work with, and how we manage them makes a great deal of difference in our progress and growth.  It’s like the parable of the talents.  The quote about religious habits of thinking and acting is about how we use the gifts we are given.  Notice that most of them involve the reality levels of duty and worship (of the three cosmic reflexes).
    Bradly wrote: Our volition/will that is reality aligned creates a corresponding reality response – when we choose/demand reality, reality responds/supplies.  The more reality (spirit) is responded to by free will, the more spirit (reality) comes to dominate the one exercising such volition (free will).

    Yes, if our will and the pre-will of the Adjuster align, then we are doing the will of God, and that is living truth, which is a reality orientation toward spirit dominance.  But there’s more to this.  Choosing to do the will of God not only increases divinity attainment for the soul, but it also leaves behind a trail of actualized potential in the universe.  Such decisions affect every other level of reality as well because the personality is engaging with reality both subjectively and objectively.  Doing the will of God inevitably reorients the relationship between all three levels of reality, not just for the individual, but the entire universe.  Don’t forget that doing the will of God repercusses in the Supreme. So, the evolution of dominance is not only about transferring identity, it is also about actualizing potentials.

    196:3.20 Every time man makes a reflective moral choice, he immediately experiences a new divine invasion of his soul. Moral choosing constitutes religion as the motive of inner response to outer conditions. But such a real religion is not a purely subjective experience. It signifies the whole of the subjectivity of the individual engaged in a meaningful and intelligent response to total objectivity — the universe and its Maker.

    p1286:4 117:5.6 The progressing personality leaves a trail of actualized reality as it passes through the ascending levels of the universes. Be they mind, spirit, or energy, the growing creations of time and space are modified by the progression of personality through their domains. When man acts, the Supreme reacts, and this transaction constitutes the fact of progression.

    Bradly wrote: We are not conscious of the spiritual growth such volition brings at the time free will is exercised but we can compare today’s spirit dominance to the past and clearly witness our own growth by the differences witnessed in our responses to similar circumstances, situation, and relationship intersections in time.

    Yes we can compare all we want, but I don’t think it’s the wisest thing to do.  I honestly don’t remember how I thought, felt and reacted yesterday, let alone years ago.  Personally, I don’t waste my time trying to figure out if I’m growing or not.  I take it for granted and put all my effort into developing and refining those spiritual reflexes.

    I think that growth reorients your entire experience with reality in such a way that you hardly notice, but others might.  My ex-husband once told me that if I was the person I am today when we married, maybe it would have lasted.  My reply was, “Since you are still the same person you were then, I don’t see how we would have married at all.”  (My ex-husband has had no visible growth since I met him, but that’s another story; he’s an atheist.)
    My point is, I don’t think it’s possible to really become highly aware of your own growth, especially in specifics, but others can surely see it and recognize it.  What you might notice in yourself is a different attitude toward life, a deeper appreciation of spiritual stimuli and perhaps a more wholehearted embrace of them.  I think it’s a matter of quality of character, a greater recognition and deeper ability to interpret meanings and values within the various interactions encountered day to day while living on a higher level of reality.  You might find yourself saying things like . . .  “I hadn’t thought of it like that before.”  Or, “Oh, I didn’t realize there was more to it than that.”  Or, “Funny how I never recognized what a  beautiful person she is until now.”   . . . and other such awakenings.
    196:3.10 The human mind does not create real values; human experience does not yield universe insight. Concerning insight, the recognition of moral values and the discernment of spiritual meanings, all that the human mind can do is to discover, recognize, interpret, and choose.
  19. I like the “awakenings” concept….that’s how it is with me too.  It’s not that I can analyze the amount of progress or even the quality so much as I realize my perspective and my response patterns are definitely different than before.  Some might attribute this to simply being older but there’s more to it than that.  Response patterns don’t change simply by getting older.  Responses change only after perspective changes first.  And I am certain that applied volition by different and spirit led motive, intention, and priority results in new responses to repeated, similar situations, circumstances, relationships – the intersections of choice and decision.  My decision making process and result are different by a growing understanding of what reality really is and a growing desire and commitment to make decisions based on reality.  I think this exemplifies what you said about “…a different attitude toward life, a deeper appreciation of spiritual stimuli and perhaps a more wholehearted embrace of them.”

    One thing of interest is that such reality alignment also changes my relationship with the material aspects of living – there is more satisfaction and less anxiety within the inherent uncertainties of material living.  I live with more anticipation of “what’s next” than I need to hold onto “what’s now”.  Perhaps this is what you mean by “reality orientation” and “spirit dominance”?   I feel more invigorated and in tune and in touch….even more adventurous than my old hippie days of truth seeking while immersed in self indulgence!  I remain often perplexed but less and less by the same old things and I do now catch myself in the midst of a very positive reflex in what was once a complex trial of intellectual confusion or over reaction or procrastination or an effort of intentional will/volition application that “feels” far more natural and with far less “effort”.  It also seems the mind poisons are more apparent in myself and others, and ever less attractive or tempting in my response patterns or motivation in choices.  This has also resulted in more empathy for others and recognition that much lies beneath what others say and do but, at the same time, less and less false sympathy for those who suffer by their own hand and choices.  Softer in some ways but firmer in others.  Interesting.

    But still…..just a tadpole….with so much yet to learn….and an eternity to learn it!!  Thanks Bonita for the conversation and your help discovering meanings and making contextual connections to further clarify and extend my perspective.  Very helpful indeed.

    :good:

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  20. Bradly wrote: Thanks Bonita for the conversation and your help discovering meanings and making contextual connections to further clarify and extend my perspective.

    Thank you Bradly.  This is a joint effort.  Aren’t we helping each other discover meanings and make contextual connections?  I think so.  Anyway, I’ve been struggling to simplify the “essay” and I’ll tell you, I’m not finding it easy.  Usually, when I write things I compile my ideas, outline them, research them, draft multiple times on each item of the outline and then refine, refine and refine.  Since I’m not doing that now, I’m working without a net, and well, I’m not sure what I’m going to put out today is in its best condition.  Hopefully you’ll point out any inconsistencies, errors and weak spots. So here goes:

    The fact that there are differing levels of reality within the domain of selfhood creates a tension, the same cosmic tension created in the universes of time and space currently finding resolution through power-personality synthesis of the Supreme.  Where material reality and spiritual reality are the farthest apart, mind reality has its most potent function.  Mind reality exists between these two realities, the best position to harmonize them both.  The process of harmonization, however, inevitably reveals contrasts between the two, which when discovered and recognized, require interpretation and decision making.  This is where the many overlapping mind ministries come into play.

    Mind discloses incoming data from both levels of reality.  It also provides the means to analyze and interpret data in order to make decisions. The value of decisions is, in part, determined by what level of mind is doing the interpreting. Mechanistic decisions occur when interpretations are made on the lowest level of mind ministries. They function to maintain the status quo of material existence.  The higher mind ministries are capable of providing a more integrated meaningful interpretation and thus are potentially of more value. The goal is progress in utilization of the higher mind ministries in the quest for divinity attainment, particularly worship and wisdom.

    The tension between the material and spiritual levels of reality we know as our dual nature.  It’s not so much that we have to choose one over the other, but that we learn how to unify what we recognize as reality so all parts of selfhood function properly and harmoniously.  The material level cannot be ignored, nor can the spiritual level be ignored if there is to be balance. And obviously, if the personality is at all conscious, the mind level will not be ignored. But it certainly can be underutilized, meaning not using all its various ministries to their fullest.

    Our dual nature requires that we develop self-control, control over all the parts of the self.  Control can come from a mind that prefers the material level or the spiritual level, a mind with a mechanistic approach to reality, or a mind with a moral and increasingly co-creative approach to reality.  It is possible for a personality to become unified around a material level of function and be quite content and balanced at that level, but not necessarily progressing.  The spiritual level of our nature will always be striving for growth and progress.  Progress is an innate feature of mind reality, it never ceases to progress. And since the spiritual level of the universe is the dominant level, the innate drawing power of growth and progress is always toward the spiritual.

    One thing to remember is that, although the goal is to grow spiritually, we are also supposed to grow mentally, even as we become less material.  The ministry of mind expands along with spiritual growth.  It must expand because mind ministry provides the capacity for growth of spirit receptivity.  But I’m not talking about pure intellect here, I’m talking about the capacity for reflective thinking and utilization of all the various ministries of material mind and soul mind.

    Mind will always seek unity, and in so doing, it will readjust to the psychic level on which a personality is functioning.  And as this progress ensues, the material becomes less and less dominant, yet still present, in a more controlled state.   The higher the whole personality progresses in psychic, or cosmic growth, the more dominant spirit becomes, along with greater control, or power, over the various parts of the self (power-personality synthesis).  Self-control, self-mastery, occurs with the evolution of dominance.  When spirit is dominant, it becomes the master, the guiding light, over mind and matter.

    Relevant Quotes:

    3:5.13 Is unselfishness–the spirit of self-forgetfulness–desirable? Then must mortal man live face to face with the incessant clamoring of an inescapable self for recognition and honor. Man could not dynamically choose the divine life if there were no self-life to forsake. Man could never lay saving hold on righteousness if there were no potential evil to exalt and differentiate the good by contrast.

    4:3.6 The infinite goodness of the Father is beyond the comprehension of the finite mind of time; hence must there always be afforded a contrast with comparative evil (not sin) for the effective exhibition of all phases of relative goodness. Perfection of divine goodness can be discerned by mortal imperfection of insight only because it stands in contrastive association with relative imperfection in the relationships of time and matter in the motions of space.

    9.6.7  The greater the spirit-energy divergence, the greater the observable function of mind; the lesser the diversity of energy and spirit, the lesser the observable function of mind. Apparently, the maximum function of the cosmic mind is in the time universes of space. Here mind seems to function in a mid-zone between energy and spirit, but this is not true of the higher levels of mind; on Paradise, energy and spirit are essentially one.

    16:6.9 But it is sad to record that so few persons on Urantia take delight in cultivating these qualities of courageous and independent cosmic thinking. 

    34:6.9 In every mortal there exists a dual nature: the inheritance of animal tendencies and the high urge of spirit endowment. During the short life you live on Urantia, these two diverse and opposing urges can seldom be fully reconciled; they can hardly be harmonized and unified; but throughout your lifetime the combined Spirit ever ministers to assist you in subjecting the flesh more and more to the leading of the Spirit. Even though you must live your material life through, even though you cannot escape the body and its necessities, nonetheless, in purpose and ideals you are empowered increasingly to subject the animal nature to the mastery of the Spirit. There truly exists within you a conspiracy of spiritual forces, a confederation of divine powers, whose exclusive purpose is to effect your final deliverance from material bondage and finite handicaps.

    36:6.1 Life is both mechanistic and vitalistic — material and spiritual.

    39:4.14 The keys of the kingdom of heaven are: sincerity, more sincerity, and more sincerity. All men have these keys. Men use them — advance in spirit status — by decisions, by more decisions, and by more decisions. The highest moral choice is the choice of the highest possible value, and always — in any sphere, in all of them — this is to choose to do the will of God. If man thus chooses, he is great, though he be the humblest citizen of Jerusem or even the least of mortals on Urantia.

    42:11.1 In the evaluation and recognition of mind it should be remembered that the universe is neither mechanical nor magical; it is a creation of mind and a mechanism of law. But while in practical application the laws of nature operate in what seems to be the dual realms of the physical and the spiritual, in reality they are one. 

    42:12.1-8 Mind always reaches out towards: 1. Creation of material mechanisms. 2. Discovery of hidden mysteries. 3. Exploration of remote situations. 4. Formulation of mental systems.  5. Attainment of wisdom goals. 6. Achievement of spirit levels.  7. The accomplishment of divine destinies – supreme, ultimate, and absolute.

    42:12.15 Mind universally dominates matter, even as it is in turn responsive to the ultimate overcontrol of spirit. And with mortal man, only that mind which freely submits itself to the spirit direction can hope to survive the mortal time-space existence as an immortal child of the eternal spirit world of the Supreme, the Ultimate, and the Absolute: the Infinite.

    100:4.3 But the great problem of religious living consists in the task of unifying the soul powers of the personality by the dominance of LOVE. Health, mental efficiency, and happiness arise from the unification of physical systems, mind systems, and spirit systems. Of health and sanity man understands much, but of happiness he has truly realized very little. The highest happiness is indissolubly linked with spiritual progress. Spiritual growth yields lasting joy, peace which passes all understanding.

    100:4.4 In physical life the senses tell of the existence of things; mind discovers the reality of meanings; but the spiritual experience reveals to the individual the true values of life.

    106:2.1 As God the Sevenfold functionally co-ordinates finite evolution, so does the Supreme Being eventually synthesize destiny attainment. The Supreme Being is the deity culmination of grand universe evolution – physical evolution around a spirit nucleus and eventual dominance of the spirit nucleus over the encircling and whirling domains of physical evolution. And all of this takes place in accordance with the mandates of personality: Paradise personality in the highest sense, Creator personality in the universe sense, mortal personality in the human sense, Supreme personality in the culminating or experiential totaling sense.

    106:2.2 The concept of the Supreme must provide for the differential recognition of spirit person, evolutionary power, and power–personality synthesis — the unification of evolutionary power with, and its dominance by, spirit personality.

    107:0.5  The Adjuster is our compensatory equalization of the enormous universe tension which is created by the distance of man’s removal from God and by the degree of his partiality in contrast with the universality of the eternal Father.

    111:6.1 Many of the temporal troubles of mortal man grow out of his twofold relation to the cosmos. Man is a part of nature — he exists in nature — and yet he is able to transcend nature. Man is finite, but he is indwelt by a spark of infinity. Such a dual situation not only provides the potential for evil but also engenders many social and moral situations fraught with much uncertainty and not a little anxiety.

    113:1.6 In the ministry to so-called normal beings, seraphic assignments are made in accordance with the human attainment of the circles of intellectuality and spirituality. You start out in your mind of mortal investment in the seventh circle and journey inward in the task of self-understanding, self-conquest, and self-mastery; and circle by circle you advance until (if natural death does not terminate your career and transfer your struggles to the mansion worlds) you reach the first or inner circle of relative contact and communion with the indwelling Adjuster.

    116:5.14 In the final analysis, all energy responds to mind, and the physical controllers are the children of the mind God, who is the activator of Paradise pattern.

    116:5.15 The spirit struggles of time and space have to do with the evolution of spirit dominance over matter by the mediation of (personal) mind; the physical (nonpersonal) evolution of the universes has to do with bringing cosmic energy into harmony with the equilibrium concepts of mind subject to the overcontrol of spirit. The total evolution of the entire grand universe is a matter of the personality unification of the energy-controlling mind with the spirit-co-ordinated intellect and will be revealed in the full appearance of the almighty power of the Supreme.

     

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