How do we do service to our fellow human beings effectively? Is this service putting money in the Salvation Army bucket? Preaching a sermon? Doing volunteer work? Giving someone some material thing we think they need?
Jesus advised us to learn what someone needs and make every effort to give it to them.
I find this latter idea to be much more difficult than it may sound.
It involves getting to know someone personally and learning their real needs as well as having the ability and desire to supply that need. Real needs tend to not be material things don’t they?
It’s easy to give someone what we think they need, like alms- and feel like we have done service but isn’t that a miscarriage of the real nature of service?
What do you think best describes real service to our fellow human beings?
On the social side of this I think about the roll of government: for example is it better to try to guarantee equal opportunity or equality?
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50 posts · 5 participants · started Dec 27, 2017, 5:47 PM
Hi Gene,
Too often quotes is done without references. That open a door to any assertion whom can lead lector on a false premises.
Would you Gene set an example with your quote ?
Jesus advised us to learn what someone needs and make every effort to give it to them.
Thanks
Hi Gene,
Too often quotes is done without references. That open a door to any assertion whom can lead lector on a false premises.
Would you Gene set an example with your quote ?
Searching papers 131, 132, 133 I know it’s in there somewhere but I’m not very good using the search engine, sorry.
Jesus advised us to learn what someone needs and make every effort to give it to them.
Thanks
Hi Gene,
No need Gene to use “search engine” if you do the search and back-up your assertions.
Most every participants do like that. We do it, to spare the lector undue investigations.
Sooo why not Gene roll up sleeves and pass through 131 / 132 / 133 and become a courageous, firm searcher instead leave an incomplete opinion and overcome this flaw.
Here is my example:
127:6.12 He is becoming experienced in the skillful wresting of victory from the very jaws of defeat.
Hi Gene,
No need Gene to use “search engine” if you do the search and back-up your assertions.
Most every participants do like that. We do it, to spare the lector undue investigations.
Sooo why not Gene roll up sleeves and pass through 131 / 132 / 133 and become a courageous searcher instead dropping an incomplete opinion and overcome this flaw.
Here is my example:
127:6.12 He is becoming experienced in the skillful wresting of victory from the very jaws of defeat.
I’m sorry Andre, just ignore the thread.
(1438.5) 130:7.2 When Ganid inquired what one could do to make friends, having noticed that the majority of persons whom they chanced to meet were attracted to Jesus, his teacher said: “Become interested in your fellows; learn how to love them and watch for the opportunity to do something for them which you are sure they want done,” and then he quoted the olden Jewish proverb — “A man who would have friends must show himself friendly.”
(1438.5) 130:7.2 When Ganid inquired what one could do to make friends, having noticed that the majority of persons whom they chanced to meet were attracted to Jesus, his teacher said: “Become interested in your fellows; learn how to love them and watch for the opportunity to do something for them which you are sure they want done,” and then he quoted the olden Jewish proverb — “A man who would have friends must show himself friendly.”
Thank you very much
(1438.5) 130:7.2 When Ganid inquired what one could do to make friends, having noticed that the majority of persons whom they chanced to meet were attracted to Jesus, his teacher said: “Become interested in your fellows; learn how to love them and watch for the opportunity to do something for them which you are sure they want done,” and then he quoted the olden Jewish proverb — “A man who would have friends must show himself friendly.”
Thank you very much
Glad to be of service
There is another event involving Jesus I believe while in or on the way to Rome that comes to mind in regard to service: jesus only gave alms to a needy person and Ganid was curious:why no ministry?
Jesus said this person had no capacity for sonship with God or something close to that.
What does that mean? No adjuster? No higher Adjutants contact? No response to spirit gravity? Surely alms helped him and administered to his real needs as well as identifying he was more than animal and minded somehow.
How difficult it is to really recognize someone’s true needs..
How easy it is to give someone something that we think they need.. impose ourselves on someone.Actually…I think it a very worthy and most interesting topic! What is service? How do we best serve others “effectively”?
I think there are multiple ‘audiences’ we might serve: First is the ‘as we pass by’ forms of service to family, friends, community, and total strangers…the ‘neighbor’ thing. This is not something planned or performed I don’t think so much as an expression of caring and sharing that is reflexive at the intersection of situation, circumstance, and encounter. Such kindness seeds of good will don’t go unnoticed or unappreciated and are infectious in their results. I remember the parable about the seed sown on rock, road, and fertile soil and how it is not up to the sower to determine which seed falls where and whether it takes root…some will and some will not but none will if no seed is thusly and freely and generously sown! Perhaps this is the area where brotherly/sisterly love is expressed more?
Then there is service to family and to friends where loyalties and nurturing are demonstrated by our loving nature. While seed sowing is also relevant here, often enough we must discern more and more clearly as to the situation and the need and the person – we personalize the service. Wisdom is more important here than above I think. We must watch our false sympathies and our enabling bad choices and protecting those we love from the consequences of bad choices. Perhaps this is where the paternal nurturing love is needed more?
And finally, for now, are those service ministries focused more on community, nation, world. The positive support of some agency or objective or issue that moves us to act specifically in service for the greatest good for the greater number. An opportunity to work with others in teams of collaboration with a shared caring and compassion for others which builds relationships and companionships beyond home, employment, and our as we walk by service as Good Samaritans.
I think in all cases we must surrender the very human desire to know, determine, or manage the results of our service. And we must discern how to improve our choices based on our good motivations and intentions by a growing, experiential wisdom at all such intersections of situation, circumstance, and relationship. The “effective” issue is one related closely to wisdom I think…and yet all service that is from love and caring and sharing is “effective” in its way. Do not random acts of kindness bear grain/fruit and ripple outwards from their planting? Yes…I think they do!
Thanks for the topic Gene!
Over 700 quotes for the keyword “service”:
"Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."
How easy it is to give someone something that we think they need
Very easy if you are paying attention and care. It was easy to see you needed help finding a quote, so, wanting to be of service, I found it. Took about 30 seconds and no sweat at all.
How easy it is to give someone something that we think they need
Very easy if you are paying attention and care. It was easy to see you needed help finding a quote, so, wanting to be of service, I found it. Took about 30 seconds and no sweat at all.
Ah, but you “knew” I needed the assistance.
There is a difference, your help was not imposed or assumed.Ah, but you “knew” I needed the assistance. There is a difference, your help was not imposed or assumed.
What you’re saying makes no sense. Doesn’t the quote say: ” . . . watch for the opportunity to do something for them which you are sure they want done . . . “?
Give a man a fish, you feed him for a day; Teach a man how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime.
Ah, but you “knew” I needed the assistance. There is a difference, your help was not imposed or assumed.
What you’re saying makes no sense. Doesn’t the quote say: ” . . . watch for the opportunity to do something for them which you are sure they want done . . . “?
Making no sense, story of my life.
However, being sure sounds about the same as knowing to me. If you are not sure and or don’t know, and give help then you are giving something that don’t make sense, fitting the square peg into a round hole so to speak.
Maybe I’m trying to make a distinction that makes no sense too, but I see it anyway.
I get plenty of help from the political party that I don’t care for and they insist on helping me. This thought is my idea of the easy giving. Getting to know a person and their real needs is different, not so easy. Don’t know how else to say it.I understand what you’re saying Gene, and I agree with you. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
For me, making the effort to get to know someone to the point where I can give something that has real meaning and value for that person – well let’s say I’m a bit lazy and the process needs definite improvement. Jesus was a master at it. He makes it look easy.
Isn’t it written in the revelation somewhere that we can swap our mind for the mind of Jésus?Jesus advised us to learn what someone needs and make every effort to give it to them.
… if this quoted referred to give encouragement, hope and incitive, I agreed 100 %. But if it refered to material’s needs at any efforts, any cost, even Jesus prevent himself to do so.
130:7.2 “Become interested in your fellows; learn how to love them and watch for the opportunity to do something for them which you are sure they want done,”
… look like to be the righteous quote. Thanks.
I just need a quote from TUB. The only direct acknowledgement was to ignore it.
Remind me ! Is this thread talking about service ?
Service one anothers. ???
180:1.1 That you love one another even as I have loved you.
Is an opportunity was skip through ?
Jesus was a master at it. He makes it look easy. Isn’t it written in the revelation somewhere that we can swap our mind for the mind of Jésus?
Yes, and he is still the master of all loving relationships. Let the Master handle everything and don’t worry about it so much. Just do your best to love people a little more every day, make every encounter beneficial to the other person in some way, even if it’s just letting them know you care about them.
Service is a natural outflowing of an inner relationship with Deity. If you care about the Deity in your own head, then you’ll naturally care about others. Train your brain to look both ways at all times and let the Master do his own work when it comes to directing love. There’s none better at it. And remember that awareness of Adjuster guidance is simply allowing your brain to think of others rather than yourself. Let that happen. Service is simply love in action, the bearing of spiritual fruit. Love others the same way Jesus loves you, the golden rule. It’s really pretty simple. Just work at allowing the fruit to grow. Jesus is the sweet fragrance of the fruit, which is what people really want and need.
100:4.6 You cannot truly love your fellows by a mere act of the will. Love is only born of thoroughgoing understanding of your neighbor’s motives and sentiments. It is not so important to love all men today as it is that each day you learn to love one more human being. If each day or each week you achieve an understanding of one more of your fellows, and if this is the limit of your ability, then you are certainly socializing and truly spiritualizing your personality.
174:1.5 Love is the outworking of the divine and inner urge of life. It is founded on understanding, nurtured by unselfish service, and perfected in wisdom.
2:5.8 The experience of loving is very much a direct response to the experience of being loved.
12:9.2 Love is the secret of beneficial association between personalities. You cannot really know a person as the result of a single contact.
56:10.21 Love is the desire to do good to others.
142:1.4 Love is the rule of living within the kingdom–supreme devotion to God while loving your neighbor as yourself.
103:2.10The impulse of the spirit Monitor is realized in human consciousness as the urge to be altruistic, fellow-creature minded.
180:5.10 Love, unselfishness, must undergo a constant and living readaptative interpretation of relationships in accordance with the leading of the Spirit of Truth. Love must thereby grasp the ever-changing and enlarging concepts of the highest cosmic good of the individual who is loved.
180:5.11 And so must we clearly recognize that neither the golden rule nor the teaching of nonresistance can ever be properly understood as dogmas or precepts. They can only be comprehended by living them, by realizing their meanings in the living interpretation of the Spirit of Truth, who directs the loving contact of one human being with another.
140:5.1 Brotherly love would love your neighbor as you love yourself, and that would be adequate fulfillment of the “golden rule.” But fatherly affection would require that you should love your fellow mortals as Jesus loves you.
147:4.9 6. The spiritual level. And then last, but greatest of all, we attain the level of spirit insight and spiritual interpretation which impels us to recognize in this rule of life the divine command to treat all men as we conceive God would treat them. That is the universe ideal of human relationships. And this is your attitude toward all such problems when your supreme desire is ever to do the Father’s will. I would, therefore, that you should do to all men that which you know I would do to them in like circumstances.
140:10.6 This new religion of Jesus was not without its practical implications, but whatever of practical political, social, or economic value there is to be found in his teaching is the natural outworking of this inner experience of the soul as it manifests the fruits of the spirit in the spontaneous daily ministry of genuine personal religious experience.
