Orvonton and the Milky Way

106 posts · 10 participants · started May 31, 2015, 6:07 PM

1. NN

   Nigel NunnParticipant
   Oct 15, 2016, 3:40 AM

   Bonita – thanks for adding your thoughts!  By “leaking in from eternity” (or projected eternitywise from Paradise), I had in mind the way the Master Architects actualize (via the Unqualified) a post-ultimate state of the master universe, that serves as Square 1 (or base of operations) for the “absolute adventure” implied by the following paragraph (and nicely defined in (link) Sadler’s study):

   (1170.1 106:7.8)“At the inconceivably distant future eternity moment of the final completion of the entire master universe, no doubt we will all look back upon its entire history as only the beginning, simply the creation of certain finite and transcendental foundations for even greater and more enthralling metamorphoses in uncharted infinity. At such a future eternity moment the master universe will still seem youthful; indeed, it will be always young in the face of the limitless possibilities of never-ending eternity.”

   PS: Here’s a local link to the Sadler study. He does a good job of digesting and integrating the deeply unfamiliar Urantia Book concepts about material reality, and transcendental causation. The smaller book is an easy read, the larger book (the Appendices) supplies all the supporting quotes and conceptual elaboration. For this stuff to be interesting, one would need to engage the mathematical form of the cosmic discrimination. 

   Nigel

2. B

   BonitaParticipant
   Oct 15, 2016, 10:26 AM

   Thanks Nigel.  Will read with my causation reality response.

3. R

   rhermenParticipant
   Feb 23, 2023, 5:56 AM

   I’m new to this forum but have been a reader of their urantia book since 2002. this topic is so fascinating! I’d like to add some speculation of my my own. Could a neutron star be a kind of unclassied power center? Could a pulsar be a kind of supreme power center? And could a quasar be assistant master force organizer?

   Anyone with a mind has an opinion and that opinion is a reflection of that mind.

4. M

   MaraParticipant
   Feb 23, 2023, 8:53 PM

   Hello rhermen. Welcome to the forum.

   You ask: ” I’d like to add some speculation of my my own. Could a neutron star be a kind of unclassied power center? Could a pulsar be a kind of supreme power center? And could a quasar be assistant master force organizer?”

    

   I hope Nigel helps with answering your interesting questions.  I looked up power centers, and found this reference right off the bat:

   9:3.6 [Part I]

   The universe of universes is permeated by the power-control creatures of the Third Source and Center: physical controllers, power directors, power centers, and other representatives of the God of Action who have to do with the regulation and stabilization of physical energies. These unique creatures of physical function all possess varying attributes of power control, such as antigravity, which they utilize in their efforts to establish the physical equilibrium of the matter and energies of the grand universe.

   They are some knid of power control creatures. Here is a bit more . . .

   15:8.2 [Part I]

   Further regulative functions are performed by the superuniverse power centers and physical controllers, living and semiliving intelligent entities constituted for this express purpose. These power centers and controllers are difficult of understanding; the lower orders are not volitional, they do not possess will, they do not choose, their functions are very intelligent but apparently automatic and inherent in their highly specialized organization. The power centers and physical controllers of the superuniverses assume direction and partial control of the thirty energy systems which comprise the gravita domain. The physical-energy circuits administered by the power centers of Uversa require a little over 968 million years to complete the encirclement of the superuniverse.

   There certainly is more to know about these ” living and semiliving intelligent entities . . . .”

    

5. R

   rhermenParticipant
   Feb 25, 2023, 3:25 AM

   Thank you for reply Mara! call me randy. maybe if we could understand the different power centers it would help us to understand the the relationship between milky way and orvonton. in studying the lighthouse beacon effect of a pulsar i can imagine it being used to transmit broadcasts across the galaxy. The less powerfull effects of a neutron star i can imagine being used as a local power source. The much greater and more distant effects of a quasar i can imagine as being an assistant master force organizer hard at work changing segregata into vast hydrogen clouds of primordial matter.

    

   Anyone with a mind has an opinion and that opinion is a reflection of that mind.

6. NN

   Nigel NunnParticipant
   Feb 25, 2023, 3:05 PM

   Hi Randy,

   Regarding quasars, current models involve young, spinning disks with jets of electromagnetic commotion shooting out at right angle from their centers.

   Now recall how (Associate Transcendental) master force organizers are famous for spinning a halo of segregata into a disk of ultimata, then (eventually) departing at right angles (57:1.6) from their young, spinning disk.

   Could this perpendicular departure of such a transcendental agent cause the sort of electromagnetic commotion we associate with quasars? And given how time-like distortion must affect photon wavelength (cycles per second), an associate TRANSCENDENTAL master force organizer, serving as anchor for his young spinning disk, could be a neat explanation for some of those anomalous redshifts Halton Arp began to catalog.

   Regarding neutron stars, I take a close look at these in the video: Exploding dark islands (part 4C in the cosmology series).

   Regarding that “plane of creation” (11:7.6) referred to by George back in 2016, I offer a new spin in Part 4D, “Ancient Orvonton – and a young cosmic web”. Recall from paper 12:2.3 how the authors refer to “375 million new galaxies“. As it turns out, with our “improving telescopic technique” (41:3.10), by including an apparent population of ultra diffuse (“dark”) galaxies, astronomers are converging (order of magnitude) towards this number of force-organized systems in our local ring of superclusters (Laniakea).

   Recall that this ring of superclusters is now thought of as a “cosmic flow” of mass-energy surrounding our place in space. And that near the center of this donut shaped distribution lies a thin disk of galaxies called “the Local Sheet“. And that our Milky Way and Andromeda lie near the center of this surrounding local sheet (“plane“) of galaxies.

   In the video (see from time 1:10.42, I make a case for Laniakea being the second outer space level, and for the Local Sheet being the first. Regarding the misalignment to which George referred, consider an architectural technique for stabilizing this finite core for an ultimate master universe: let these two relatively small outer space levels not only rotate AROUND the central (and tiny) grand universe, but also precess OVER it. Here (time 21:21 in the video) I refer to this arrangement as a multi-gimballed gyroscope.

   Regarding the Milky Way and Orvonton, I sketch some thoughts in Part 4D of the cosmology series. If you get a chance to watch the full 75 (!) minutes, please let me know what you think 

   PS: this old forum thread was continued over here: Revisionist cosmology. Since the authors stated that we will need to revise some of their quote: “statements regarding the physical sciences” (101:4.2), in this 4-part series I have a go at this revision. Again, please comment and critique 

   Nigel

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