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"No man goes to the Father except through me."

27 posts · 7 participants · started Jul 30, 2014, 6:06 PM

  1. But in terms of personality, with regard to the real You, is not Michael’s Father the actual Father of your personality?

    Michael is the perfect revelation of the Universal Father’s personality.  If you’ve seen Michael, you’ve seen his Father.  And as a bonus, if you’ve seen Michael, you’ve also seen a perfect revelation of the Supreme.

    I think the absolute personality is the Eternal Son, right?

  2. Bonita wrote:

    Nigel Nunn wrote:

    “But in terms of personality, with regard to the real You, is not Michael’s Father the actual Father of your personality?”

    “Michael is the perfect revelation of the Universal Father’s personality. If you’ve seen Michael, you’ve seen his Father. And as a bonus, if you’ve seen Michael, you’ve also seen a perfect revelation of the Supreme.
    I think the absolute personality is the Eternal Son, right?”

    Right!  And as you know, the Father of that absolute person is also the Father of all Creator Sons, and of You!

    This is the ‘Good News’ Jesus was on about   :-)

    Nigel

  3. This is the ‘Good News’ Jesus was on about

    I agree.  If it weren’t for him I would have no idea what God’s personality is all about let alone my own.  Thank you Jesus.

  4. G’day all,

    Particularities about Michaël [primary Son] and a Avonal [secondary Son] orders.

    • both possed S/T
    • winning through experience the first degee as Master Son Creator, His S/T change nature and turn out to became the spirit of the sovereign Michael [S/SM]. An enhancement. So wherever Michaël have poured out His S/T and wherever He will, it will be S/SM.   20:6.9.
    • only Son Creator is created with innate dotation to attract to him His creation’s childs. Only The Michaël is impart with this attractive “living way” process in time and space domain.

    His “living way” dotation’s attraction will always beaconed His childrens … outside Nebadon, at Father’s house , outside 4 circles under creation and even blazing the trail in Absolute realm. For us, His numerous types created childrens are endowent with our Father/brother “living way” will.

    And where there’s a will, there’s ….

    André

     

  5. Hi siblings,

    Bradley  post # 8266

    And yet, not all worlds have the Spirit of Truth, do they?
    Was this said for our world or all worlds?

    No, a sequence of prerequisitise must be reach to allowed a planet to “be poured the S/T” (Spirit of Truth) coming from a Avonal + the S\T from a spirit of the sovereign Michael [S/SM]. 20:6.8

    Bradley, a sequencial Divine agenda must be observed. In primitive ages of any worlds when biological status of humanoides arrive inevitabily to an exhaustion, Material Sons of God must be sent in. Uplifting biological status of humanoides prepared them, among others, for a better co-operation with S/T, S/SM and T/A.

    Exception of the world choose for incarnation of The Creator Son, all others worlds will benefit  bestowal of secondary Paradise Sons, the Avonals. 20:2.9

    … Then, the Spirit of Truth is … bestowal upon an evolving world. 20:5.3.                One by one.

    And in no way are these planetary services inferior to the mortal bestowals of the Michaels.o

    Sooner or later, regardless of spiritual status, every mortal-inhabited world is destined to become host to a Magisterial Son [Avonal] on a bestowal mission except the one planet in each local universe whereon a Creator Son elects to make his mortal bestowal.
    [n.b. anyone noticed with Avonals, spiritual status is of no importance?… and on our it was vital ! ]
    … maintaining the light of truth on Urantia. Machiventa 93:1.2

    UB mention about an Avonal when he have done an effusion on a planet, when he return at headquarter of Nebadon He send His Spirit of Truth and Michaël do the same with His S/T do the same with His S/SM.

    André
    p.s. I must admit I cannot make head or tail of it. … Is there a difference with S/T and S/SM ? Must be, otherwise why change its nature ? Maybee, soverity of a universe implied actualisation of potentials ! Could that be Supreme or/and Ultime’s potentials? For sure experiencing all those 7 effusions add exquisites refinement to theirs perfections.

  6. I’m not sure what you’re saying André but I’ll give you my spin on it. I’m not sure I got this 100% right but I’m sure someone will correct me if need be.

    When an Avonal Son incarnates on a planet for a bestowal mission and completes it, he then sends a conjoint Spirit of Truth to that planet.  That Spirit of Truth is a combination of the personal spirits of both the bestowal Avonal Son and the Michael Son of that local universe.  This Spirit of Truth is a joint spirit of the Sons.  This happens on all planets in the local universe, each with their own individual Avonal Son/Michael Son conjoint Spirit of Truth.  Each Avonal has his own personality, which is what makes them all somewhat different and specific for each planet, I think.

    Once a  Michael Son completes his own seventh bestowal mission, all of those conjoint Spirit of Truths on all the other planets in his local universe have a transformation of character or nature. The Master Michael Son’s new Spirit of Truth is also a dual natured spirit but now it becomes the spirit of the Master Michael Son combined with the Universal Father.  It gets kicked up a notch.  However, the Avonal Son’s contribution remains as an associated spirit of the Master Michael Son.  I don’t know how that works, but it must be because the planets who had bestowal Avonal Sons would feel orphaned without their Avonal who had previously revealed the nature of the Eternal Son to them.  Just a guess.

    20:6.8 Thereupon the bestowal Avonal and the Creator Son send their conjoint Spirit of Truth to function in the hearts of the mortal races dwelling on the bestowal world. In the presovereignty ages of a local universe, this is the joint spirit of both Sons, implemented by the Creative Spirit.

    194:2.3 This bestowal of the Son’s spirit effectively prepared all normal men’s minds for the subsequent universal bestowal of the Father’s spirit (the Adjuster) upon all mankind. In a certain sense, this Spirit of Truth is the spirit of both the Universal Father and the Creator Son.

    194:2.16 4. The spirit of the Universal Father and the Creator Son — the Spirit of Truth, generally regarded as the spirit of the Universe Son.

    Is that what you were looking for or have I wandered off the reservation?

  7. Hi Bonita,

    Is that what you were looking for or have I wandered off the reservation? Bonita

    You didn’t cross the line “au contraire”.Always a pleasure to chitchat colored point of view.

    André

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