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27 posts · 5 participants · started Jun 30, 2016, 10:11 PM

  1. Even so, and after she becomes the divine minister and much life creation happens she is still not quite a person ??

    I went back to your first post to pull out one of your questions.  I hope you don’t mind reading a series of references pertaining to the local universe creative spirit of the Infinite Spirit, aka the local universe Mother Spirit, aka the Spirit consort of the Creator Son, among other names used to denominate her.  Yes, she is a bona fide person.

    17:6:7  4. The Life-Creation Era. Upon the declaration of intention to create life by the Creator Son, there ensue on Paradise the “personalization ceremonies,” participated in by the Seven Master Spirits and personally experienced by the supervising Master Spirit. This is a Paradise Deity contribution to the individuality of the Spirit consort of the Creator Son and becomes manifest to the universe in the phenomenon of “the primary eruption” in the person of the Infinite Spirit. Simultaneously with this phenomenon on Paradise, the heretofore impersonal Spirit consort of the Creator Son becomes, to all practical intents and purposes, a bona fide person. Henceforth and forevermore, this same local universe Mother Spirit will be regarded as a person and will maintain personal relations with all the personality hosts of the ensuing life creation.
    When she is elevated to the status of personality prerogatives, the adjutant mind spirits are bestowed on living creatures in the local universe. (17:7:1)
    You might find this as interesting as I did.  I interpret this reference to mean, in part,  that the relationship of Creator Son and the universe Mother Spirit is a pattern of relationship applicable to the high ideal of marriage and the family.
    33:3:6  After this pledge of subordination by the Creative Mother Spirit, Michael of Nebadon nobly acknowledged his eternal dependence on his Spirit companion, constituting the Spirit coruler of his universe domains and requiring all their creatures to pledge themselves in loyalty to the Spirit as they had to the Son; and there issued and went forth the final “Proclamation of Equality.” Though he was the sovereign of this local universe, the Son published to the worlds the fact of the Spirit’s equality with him in all endowments of personality and attributes of divine character. And this becomes the transcendent pattern for the family organization and government of even the lowly creatures of the worlds of space. This is, in deed and in truth, the high ideal of the family and the human institution of voluntary marriage.
    Further. . .
    37:0:1  AT THE head of all personality in Nebadon stands the Creator and Master Son, Michael, the universe father and sovereign. Co-ordinate in divinity and complemental in creative attributes is the local universe Mother Spirit, the Divine Minister of Salvington. And these creators are in a very literal sense the Father-Son and the Spirit–Mother of all the native creatures of Nebadon.
    Gene wrote:  . . . she is of trinity origin?
    I had to look this up too.  No, she what they call a single-origin being, “Those of origin in any one of the Paradise Deities or otherwise created by any one being of direct or indirect descent from the Paradise Deities.”  (30:1:55)

    Why tell us about un-revealed beings? There is a message in this that gets my imagination going and the revealators do this for a reason. I’m missing it right now.

    Here is a clue:

    30:0:2  It is not possible to formulate comprehensive and entirely consistent classifications of the personalities of the grand universe because all of the groups are not revealed. It would require numerous additional papers to cover the further revelation required to systematically classify all groups. Such conceptual expansion would hardly be desirable as it would deprive the thinking mortals of the next thousand years of that stimulus to creative speculation which these partially revealed concepts supply. It is best that man not have an overrevelation; it stifles imagination.
    :-)
  2. . . . the local universe mother spirit highlighted in paper 34 and differences in her influence on us as compared with our creator son.

    I attend a prayer circle every week.  It’s bible-based, because that is the Christian book people study and quote and much can be said about Christianity.  I like to go because I like to fellowship with faithers.  We pray together and share together.  Some are regular Christians, several are Catholics, and one is a Catholic converted to Judaism.  I mostly keep quiet about UB info, because I’m not there to correct anyone, though I do insert a concept here and there along the way.  While it helped me to know more about the Holy Spirit, do you think it matters, really, if people do not know about this spiritual circuit of the local universe mother spirit?  It amazes me Christians  know as much as they do.  They are faith-sons too.

    8:5:3  In your sacred writings the term Spirit of God seems to be used interchangeably to designate both the Infinite Spirit on Paradise and the Creative Spirit of your local universe. The Holy Spirit is the spiritual circuit of this Creative Daughter of the Paradise Infinite Spirit. The Holy Spirit is a circuit indigenous to each local universe and is confined to the spiritual realm of that creation; but the Infinite Spirit is omnipresent.
    The way I understand it the seven adjutant mind spirits (circuits) go out as soon as life is initiated.  The adjutants do their thing until one being makes a first moral choice, like Andon and Fonta.  “The Adjusters cannot invade the mortal mind until it has been duly prepared by the indwelling ministry of the adjutant mind-spirits and encircuited in the Holy Spirit.” The Holy Spirit is supermind bestowal.  (92:0:4)  (34:5:3)
    56:3:3  No matter on what level of universe activities you may encounter spiritual phenomena or contact with spirit beings, you may know that they are all derived from the God who is spirit by the ministry of the Spirit Son and the Infinite Mind Spirit. And this far-flung spirit functions as a phenomenon on the evolutionary worlds of time as it is directed from the headquarters of the local universes. From these capitals of the Creator Sons come the Holy Spirit and the Spirit of Truth, together with the ministry of the adjutant mind-spirits, to the lower and evolving levels of material minds.
    103:0:1  ALL of man’s truly religious reactions are sponsored by the early ministry of the adjutant of worship and are censored by the adjutant of wisdom. Man’s first supermind endowment is that of personality encircuitment in the Holy Spirit of the Universe Creative Spirit; and long before either the bestowals of the divine Sons or the universal bestowal of the Adjusters, this influence functions to enlarge man’s viewpoint of ethics, religion, and spirituality. Subsequent to the bestowals of the Paradise Sons the liberated Spirit of Truth makes mighty contributions to the enlargement of the human capacity to perceive religious truths. As evolution advances on an inhabited world, the Thought Adjusters increasingly participate in the development of the higher types of human religious insight. The Thought Adjuster is the cosmic window through which the finite creature may faith-glimpse the certainties and divinities of limitless Deity, the Universal Father.
    108:2:2  The Adjusters cannot invade the mortal mind until it has been duly prepared by the indwelling ministry of the adjutant mind-spirits and encircuited in the Holy Spirit. And it requires the co-ordinate function of all seven adjutants to thus qualify the human mind for the reception of an Adjuster. Creature mind must exhibit the worship outreach and indicate wisdom function by exhibiting the ability to choose between the emerging values of good and evil — moral choice.
    As to her influence?
    As the Sons of God are engaged in the gigantic task of revealing the Father’s personality of love to a universe, so is the Infinite Spirit dedicated to the unending ministry of revealing the combined love of the Father and the Son to the individual minds of all the children of each universe. In these local creations the Spirit does not come down to the material races in the likeness of mortal flesh as do certain of the Sons of God, but the Infinite Spirit and his co-ordinate Spirits do downstep themselves, do joyfully undergo an amazing series of divinity attenuations, until they appear as angels to stand by your side and guide you through the lowly paths of earthly existence.
    She’s the source of local universe intellect.  (112:6:6)
    We work out the practical details of daily life with her agents.  The act is ours, etc.
    5:3:5  When you deal with the practical affairs of your daily life, you are in the hands of the spirit personalities having origin in the Third Source and Center; you are co-operating with the agencies of the Conjoint Actor. And so it is: You worship God; pray to, and commune with, the Son; and work out the details of your earthly sojourn in connection with the intelligences of the Infinite Spirit operating on your world and throughout your universe.
  3. MidiChlorian wrote: Also, I have edited the term “Conjoint Actor” to “Conjoint Creator” because that is what I find in my digital text, notwithstanding that I would be curious to know where you got your presented example from? In that these two entities are not necessarily the same in function.

    So, what exactly is the difference in function between the Conjoint Actor and the Conjoint Creator?  Take into consideration this quote when answering.  Do all of these titles of the TSC have different functions?  If so, what are they?

    8:2.2 The Third Source and Center is known by numerous titles: the Universal Spirit, the Supreme Guide, the Conjoint Creator, the Divine Executive, the Infinite Mind, the Spirit of Spirits, the Paradise Mother Spirit, the Conjoint Actor, the Final Co-ordinator, the Omnipresent Spirit, the Absolute Intelligence, the Divine Action; and on Urantia he is sometimes confused with the cosmic mind.

     

  4. Well, I spent a good bit of time yesterday doing research.  I read every quote in the book that contains either Conjoint Creator and/or Conjoint Actor.  I really wanted to find a difference in function but could not find one.  There were a few times when I thought I was honing in on something only to find that I wasn’t.  Oh well.  I was kinda hoping  had found something new, but I don’t think so. I really don’t know why TUB keeps interchanging different titles for the same person.  It gets confusing.  Then there are all the mothers and fathers in the universe, it makes your head spin.

  5. I like Thought Adjusters and Mystery Monitors.

    sound multifunctional?

     

  6. Sorry?  Is that a question?

  7. Sorry? Is that a question?

    no, just having some fun

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