Gene, in your opening of one of your previous posts you start off with the following:
the last sentence of the opening paragraph states that “to the creator son the spirit associate (the universe spirit) is personal and has always functioned as a distinct individual”
that suggests that Michael does not change his relationship with her very much before or after her transformation to the. divine Minister. He kind of sits back and enjoys the show –
And she was certain to facilitate the creation of energy circuits prior to her transformation – is this not what nourishes the ministering spirits? Or is it what is told in 34:1.2 – “from and through this new personal segregation of the Conjoint Actor [Creator] there proceed the established currents and the ordained circuits of spirit power and spiritual influence destined to pervade all the worlds and beings of that local universe”? I think the former.
When you mention in the second sentence, Michael’s relationship with, as you inferred, “(the universe spirit)” may be putting the cart before the horse, so to speak. Where in the preface to this section (34:0.1-3), which the ‘0’ numeric structure, should be considered as a lead-in to that which follows, and is more a generalization. Even though the section header is “The Local Universe Mother Spirit”, this preface indicates a process which is repeated in many other processes outside and inside a “local universe” where in the first narrative (34:0.1), it refers to “WHEN a Creator Son is personalized”, and would be any Creator Son, therefore specific to all “Michael’s”.
Then in your third sentence you refer to something from (34:1.2), may be more associated to what was presented in (34:1.1) and not necessarily specific to the preface section but, may only be part of the generalized process? Not to mention that you used the phrase “ministering spirits”, which is not found in this section specifically, thereby by making your comparison, possibly made difficult without much more descriptive details? Also, I have edited the term “Conjoint Actor” to “Conjoint Creator” because that is what I find in my digital text, notwithstanding that I would be curious to know where you got your presented example from? In that these two entities are not necessarily the same in function.
In your first sentence where I have highlighted the UB quoted phrase, which comes from (34:0.3); it is important to look at all of those paragraphs in order to get a general idea as to how the context is structured.
If we look as the preface to this section, I will present what I understand to be the generalized underlying premise.
The Local Universe Mother Spirit
(374.1) 34:0.1 WHEN a Creator Son is personalized by the Universal Father and the Eternal Son, then does the Infinite Spirit individualize a new and unique representation of himself to accompany this Creator Son to the realms of space, there to be his companion, first, in physical organization and, later, in creation and ministry to the creatures of the newly projected universe.
(374.2) 34:0.2 A Creative Spirit reacts to both physical and spiritual realities; so does a Creator Son; and thus are they co-ordinate and associate in the administration of a local universe of time and space.
(374.3) 34:0.3 These Daughter Spirits are of the essence of the Infinite Spirit, but they cannot function in the work of physical creation and spiritual ministry simultaneously. In physical creation the Universe Son provides the pattern while the Universe Spirit initiates the materialization of physical realities. The Son operates in the power designs, but the Spirit transforms these energy creations into physical substances. Although it is somewhat difficult to portray this early universe presence of the Infinite Spirit as a person, nevertheless, to the Creator Son the Spirit associate is personal and has always functioned as a distinct individual.
In the first paragraph (34:01) it should be noted that this is a generalized process which is repeated for specific universe creation, and is not necessarily unique. Therefore the “First source and center” (Universal Father), and the “Second source and center” (Eternal Son) “personalize” a Creator Son, whereby the “Third source and center” (Infinite Spirit) responds by creating a unique companion for this Creator Son. In essence they are separate but compatible to each other, similar to a species, like a male and female human, who would be mingling with other components part until they start to organize, “co-ordinate and associate” both physically and spiritually because they have been previously paired.
Now, I highlighted the word “co-ordinate” because when we lookup this word it is presented as “coordinate” but if the authors hyphenated it, it may have a slightly different meaning as presented here. In that “coordinate” indicates “of the same order or degree; equal in rank or importance” and “co-ordinate” is a combination of the prefix “co-” and, “ordinate.”
When we look at these definitions we can see that “co-” can represent “(in mathematics and astronomy) of the complement of an angle”, and for “ordinate”, specifically, indicates “Mathematics. (in plane Cartesian coordinates) the y-coordinate of a point: its distance from the x-axis measured parallel to the y-axis” and, associated to or compared to “abscissa” which is defined as “(in plane Cartesian coordinates) the x-coordinate of a point: its distance from the y-axis measured parallel to the x-axis.”
This being presented, the last two words are defined differently in that one is the “y-coordinate” and the other as the “x-coordinate”, where this can also be associated to the creation of the “XX” and XY” chromosomes, however as may also be associated to “co-” as defined as “The prefix , co-, now productively forms new words from bases beginning with any sound (co-conspirator; co-manage; coseismic), sometimes with the derived sense “auxiliary, subsidiary” (coenzyme; copilot), and, in mathematics and astronomy, with the sense “complement” ( codeclination).”
Therefore the use of the word “co-ordinate” would or might indicate that what is being presented has multiple meanings and at the very least affirms that what may follow also has multiple means as to context?
When we look at the context of (34:0.3), it mentions that “In physical creation the Universe Son provides the pattern while the Universe Spirit initiates the materialization of physical realities.” Where if we assume a parallel, the sperm and the egg, and also in genetics, RNA (a single-stranded molecule) and DNA (double-stranded molecule), where when “pattern” is presented, it can be associated with an instruction set, possibly for unpacking or a process of creation.
Therefore, if we can envision “the Creator Son the Spirit associate” as being the “associate” to the “spirit” and as they are created as a matched pair, but different based on function, they can also be associated as “personal and has always functioned as a distinct individual.” And also can be compared to an Adam and Eve, and many other associations within the UB.
Another way to thinking or looking at this would be through biology, where the “spirit” is feminine having “XX” chromosome, and the “Son” is masculine having “XY” chromosome, then when they are combined or organized as one, would be represented as “XXXY” which may represent androgyny — “having both masculine and feminine characteristics”, yet having separate functions. Where in essence, could reproduce and spawn at least three singularities as, another “XXXY”, or just an “XX” or “XY” but, with these base units could pair in the following manor: ((XXXY)+(XXXY)), ((XXXY)+(XX)), ((XXXY)+(XY)), ((XX)+(XY)); whereas the chaining progresses will always contain a portion of the “pattern” provided by the “Son” or a “Y” factor. Which can also be reasoned that within a male’s or, “Son’s” structure, there are the components, or parts/patterns of both feminine and masculine but since the UB has represented the three sources and centers as masculine, in order to create just a “XX” entity you would need to combine ((XY)+(YX)) to make an (XX). Also, one must keep in mind that a (YY) entity could not be considered as a spirit entity because it would require at least one (X), where one might consider an anti-factor as being a duality (order theory) within itself; if one takes the “X” and folds the bottom forks together, a “Y” symbol is created, and if one folds the top half of the “Y” together, and incorporated it into a circle, one would get the following symbol, which represents Phi —“ Φ “— which has been a representation of infinite series/sequence/patterns. Therefore, it is no wonder that the second source and center (the Son) is represented as —“ ⨀ ”—(circle, with a dot in the center) then could the infinite spirit be represented as —“ ⊗ “— which would include a fourth dimension as “time” as in time and space?
If one keeps this analysis in mind as we read through the text which follows, it may allow envisioning, more of what may be being expressed by the authors. When one can imagine more than one overlapping image or scenario, as different words are combined in multiple contexts, and may make better sense when the narration uses many words for the same descriptive presentation?
One of the word phrases used above which seems to present itself as puzzling in the way it was used: “personal and has always functioned as a distinct individual.” If one searches for “distinct individual” which is singular, you will find two other areas where it is used, as noted below. Although these examples may not directly relate to the usage in question but, they may present a similar understanding as to how they are used and can be associated somewhat to the general meaning. In this case when we read “individual” we interpret it with a person or single human being but it can also represent: “a distinct, indivisible entity; a single thing, being, instance, or item” or, ”a group considered as a unit.” Also, in biology it can represent: “a single organism capable of independent existence” or, “a member of a compound organism or colony.” That’s why, I think that the UB has mentioned that words need to be looked up, especially when they can have multiple meaning, where in some cases if these multiple meaning are applied to the narration, one might see that there could have been more than one thought structure being presented. Since things in the universe repeat themselves as to the way they function or have been created, why would an author go to the trouble to repeat the text so many times when they can save space by incorporating context within the grammatical structure?
(106.10) 9:8.12 Both First Source and Third Source personalities are endowed with all and more than man associates with the concept of personality; they have minds embracing memory, reason, judgment, creative imagination, idea association, decision, choice, and numerous additional powers of intellect wholly unknown to mortals. With few exceptions the orders revealed to you possess form and distinct individuality; they are real beings. A majority of them are visible to all orders of spirit existence.
(266.5) 24:1.15 While the circuit supervisors are entirely alike within their respective orders, they are all distinct individuals. They are truly personal beings, but they possess a type of other-than-Father-endowed personality not encountered in any other type of creature in all universal existence.
Now Gene, I was little puzzled when I read your third sentence, as I repost her, again:
And she was certain to facilitate the creation of energy circuits prior to her transformation – is this not what nourishes the ministering spirits? Or is it what is told in 34:1.2 – “from and through this new personal segregation of the Conjoint Actor [Creator] there proceed the established currents and the ordained circuits of spirit power and spiritual influence destined to pervade all the worlds and beings of that local universe”? I think the former.
Where one must look at the previous UB quotation or narration to understand what has occurred which is a “transformation” but when examined is associated to “Divine Minister” — “individualized Creative Spirit helper” — but when one looks at (34:1.1) there is an interaction from the “Paradise Trinity” based on the “proclamation of the Michael Son”. I’m not sure where the “ministering spirits” comes into play at this time?
1. Personalization of the Creative Spirit
(374.4) 34:1.1 After the completion of the physical organization of a starry and planetary cluster and the establishment of the energy circuits by the superuniverse power centers, subsequent to this preliminary work of creation by the agencies of the Infinite Spirit, operating through, and under the direction of, his local universe creative focalization, there goes forth the proclamation of the Michael Son that life is next to be projected in the newly organized universe. Upon the Paradise recognition of this declaration of intention, there occurs a reaction of approval in the Paradise Trinity, followed by the disappearance in the spiritual shining of the Deities of the Master Spirit in whose superuniverse this new creation is organizing. Meanwhile the other Master Spirits draw near this central lodgment of the Paradise Deities, and subsequently, when the Deity-embraced Master Spirit emerges to the recognition of his fellows, there occurs what is known as a “primary eruption.” This is a tremendous spiritual flash, a phenomenon clearly discernible as far away as the headquarters of the superuniverse concerned; and simultaneously with this little-understood Trinity manifestation there occurs a marked change in the nature of the creative spirit presence and power of the Infinite Spirit resident in the local universe concerned. In response to these Paradise phenomena there immediately personalizes, in the very presence of the Creator Son, a new personal representation of the Infinite Spirit. This is the Divine Minister. The individualized Creative Spirit helper of the Creator Son has become his personal creative associate, the local universe Mother Spirit.
(375.1) 34:1.2 From and through this new personal segregation of the Conjoint Creator there proceed the established currents and the ordained circuits of spirit power and spiritual influence destined to pervade all the worlds and beings of that local universe. In reality, this new and personal presence is but a transformation of the pre-existent and less personal associate of the Son in his earlier work of physical universe organization.
