A question about "celestial ministrations."

23 posts · 4 participants · started Aug 1, 2014, 2:18 AM

1. M

   MaraParticipant
   Aug 3, 2014, 3:35 PM

   I like that one Bradly.  I’ve been thinking about starting a topic about personal revelation and epochal.  As someone said earlier we pretty much get what epochal is, but personal revelation is something else.  As I studied “personal revelation” I came across this reference I think helpful to this topic.

   Moral evaluation with a religious meaning — spiritual insight — connotes the individual’s choice between good and evil, truth and error, material and spiritual, human and divine, time and eternity. Human survival is in great measure dependent on consecrating the human will to the choosing of those values selected by this spirit-value sorter — the indwelling interpreter and unifier. Personal religious experience consists in two phases: discovery in the human mind and revelation by the indwelling divine spirit. Through oversophistication or as a result of the irreligious conduct of professed religionists, a man, or even a generation of men, may elect to suspend their efforts to discover the God who indwells them; they may fail to progress in and attain the divine revelation. But such attitudes of spiritual nonprogression cannot long persist because of the presence and influence of the indwelling Thought Adjusters.  196:3;17

   Celestial ministrations help you to the degree of your consecration to do God’s will.

2. B

   BonitaParticipant
   Aug 3, 2014, 4:42 PM

   Mara wrote:

   Celestial ministrations help you to the degree of your consecration to do God’s will.

   Doesn’t it depend on how you define celestial ministrations?  Adjutant mind spirits function well even before the capacity of mind has evolved to the level capable of receiving a Thought Adjuster. And the Holy Spirit’s function is not entirely dependent upon the attitude of the individual (34:5.5); although, effectiveness of the Holy Spirit increases with consecration to God’s will.  But these early ministrations of the human mind, the higher adjutants and the Holy Spirit, work endlessly to elevate human desire for survival and personality realization because once the soul comes into existence, it continues to grow in and of itself (117:3.6).  This means the soul’s primary focus, its desire, is on survival even though the finite, material mind is only partially aware of it (111:3.4).  (The soul exists as soon as the Holy Spirit arrives and endows the individual with supermind function, supermind being that mind above the adjutant level.)

    

3. M

   MaraParticipant
   Aug 3, 2014, 5:11 PM

   Yes, Bonita.  So very, very much is given to us, gifted to us, before, during and after the  TA is bestowed and throughout our career.

   My medical provider informs its patients that they will do their part to attend to the care and health of those whom they serve, and in the same breath also they inform us of what is our part.  They do not expect a toddler to comprehend why he should not eat candy, but later on, yes, they expect youngsters and young people to eat more healthfully and as they get older they do comprehend why.  My doctors do what they can with what they have to work with.  Their ministrations may have nothing to do with eternal life or death.

   Celestial ministers also take what they have got to work with and some of those ministrations kick in right away at birth.  We are mostly unaware of the help we receive.

    

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