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The Real Nature Of Religion – Paper 101

141 posts · 8 participants · started Mar 2, 2018, 1:38 PM

  1. Wonderful Bonita…so much to consider!  I noticed the last quote is about both the individual and “mankind”.  As go the parts so goes the whole…an interesting additional consideration to the Mortal Epochs of those progressive accomplishments of humanity over time.

    Personal wisdom also requires time and growth which brings change and progress…doing the same things better and learning to do new things by such experience…and then do them better too.  An accretion and aggregation as well as an integration and utilization of all prior aggregation.  The mind and the soul and the world and the universe and the Supreme all thusly progress toward potential and destiny.

    The fact that new potential comes by the realization and actualization of prior potential is a powerful and profound concept to me.  There can be no end to becoming by such pattern of truth and reality.  The Real Nature of Religion is this eternal expansion of potential and realization of potential and perfecting….only that and those originated in perfection and eternity (an impossibility of gross inaccuracy as nothing or no one IN eternity originate at all) might ever be perfect I think….all the rest of us originated in time and space may find perfecting to be endless rather than perfection as our destiny?  We will always be the beloved children of God….we will never BE God.

    We will never be without origin even if we are without end.  God has given us the greatest of all gifts – potential and progress and realization of both which only results in more of both….forevermore!  We get adventure!  We are blessed with uncertainty!   May we feast upon it!

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  2. Sorry for so much text…but it is so relevant to the current discussion….the acquisition of wisdom from spiritual insight by the personal revelations of the God Fragment. Remember…the Master, born in his final bestowal as the Son of Man as a ‘normal’ babe of the realm, acquired experiential and revelatory wisdom the same way we do….or did so up to the transformation in the Perean Hills.  His story and example are the most extensive and personalized presentations of Religion In Human Experience and The Real Nature Of Religion ever known in the history of our world.

    We are taught below that mortal, material experience does not yield universe insight….wisdom, evidently yes…but not spiritual or universe insight – this comes by personal revelation from our TA.  The mortal/material mind may only “…discover, recognize, interpret, and choose.”  We may hear, discern, respond, and choose to act (faith acts/responses) and in such a partnership with our TA’s delivery of personal revelation, we may gain universe insights of truth and reality and thusly…”….all human progress is effected by a technique of conjoint revelational evolution.”  (emphasis IN text of UB)

    Faith is our response to the yearning within and the feeling/knowledge/growing certainty of the personal nature of its source within and the caring/loving/comforting/confirming nature of this relationship within….this conjoint revelational evolution experience!!

    From Paper 196 The Faith of Jesus:

    196:3.1 (2093.6) Personal, spiritual religious experience is an efficient solvent for most mortal difficulties; it is an effective sorter, evaluator, and adjuster of all human problems. Religion does not remove or destroy human troubles, but it does dissolve, absorb, illuminate, and transcend them. True religion unifies the personality for effective adjustment to all mortal requirements. Religious faith — the positive leading of the indwelling divine presence — unfailingly enables the God-knowing man to bridge that gulf existing between the intellectual logic which recognizes the Universal First Cause as It and those positive affirmations of the soul which aver this First Cause is He, the heavenly Father of Jesus’ gospel, the personal God of human salvation.

    196:3.2 (2094.1) There are just three elements in universal reality: fact, idea, and relation. The religious consciousness identifies these realities as science, philosophy, and truth. Philosophy would be inclined to view these activities as reason, wisdom, and faith — physical reality, intellectual reality, and spiritual reality. We are in the habit of designating these realities as thing, meaning, and value.

    196:3.3 (2094.2) The progressive comprehension of reality is the equivalent of approaching God. The finding of God, the consciousness of identity with reality, is the equivalent of the experiencing of self-completion — self-entirety, self-totality. The experiencing of total reality is the full realization of God, the finality of the God-knowing experience.

    196:3.4 (2094.3) The full summation of human life is the knowledge that man is educated by fact, ennobled by wisdom, and saved — justified — by religious faith.

    196:3.5 (2094.4) Physical certainty consists in the logic of science; moral certainty, in the wisdom of philosophy; spiritual certainty, in the truth of genuine religious experience.

    196:3.6 (2094.5) The mind of man can attain high levels of spiritual insight and corresponding spheres of divinity of values because it is not wholly material. There is a spirit nucleus in the mind of man — the Adjuster of the divine presence. There are three separate evidences of this spirit indwelling of the human mind:

    196:3.7 (2094.6) 1. Humanitarian fellowship — love. The purely animal mind may be gregarious for self-protection, but only the spirit-indwelt intellect is unselfishly altruistic and unconditionally loving.

    196:3.8 (2094.7) 2. Interpretation of the universe — wisdom. Only the spirit-indwelt mind can comprehend that the universe is friendly to the individual.

    196:3.9 (2094.8) 3. Spiritual evaluation of life — worship. Only the spirit-indwelt man can realize the divine presence and seek to attain a fuller experience in and with this foretaste of divinity.

    196:3.10 (2094.9) The human mind does not create real values; human experience does not yield universe insight. Concerning insight, the recognition of moral values and the discernment of spiritual meanings, all that the human mind can do is to discover, recognize, interpret, and choose.

    196:3.11 (2094.10) The moral values of the universe become intellectual possessions by the exercise of the three basic judgments, or choices, of the mortal mind:

    196:3.12 (2094.11) 1. Self-judgment — moral choice.
    196:3.13 (2094.12) 2. Social-judgment — ethical choice.
    196:3.14 (2094.13) 3. God-judgment — religious choice.

    196:3.15 (2094.14) Thus it appears that all human progress is effected by a technique of conjoint revelational evolution.

    196:3.16 (2094.15) Unless a divine lover lived in man, he could not unselfishly and spiritually love. Unless an interpreter lived in the mind, man could not truly realize the unity of the universe. Unless an evaluator dwelt with man, he could not possibly appraise moral values and recognize spiritual meanings. And this lover hails from the very source of infinite love; this interpreter is a part of Universal Unity; this evaluator is the child of the Center and Source of all absolute values of divine and eternal reality.

    196:3.17 (2095.1) Moral evaluation with a religious meaning — spiritual insight — connotes the individual’s choice between good and evil, truth and error, material and spiritual, human and divine, time and eternity. Human survival is in great measure dependent on consecrating the human will to the choosing of those values selected by this spirit-value sorter — the indwelling interpreter and unifier. Personal religious experience consists in two phases: discovery in the human mind and revelation by the indwelling divine spirit….

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  3. 101:3.4 (1108.3) Through religious faith the soul of man reveals itself and demonstrates the potential divinity of its emerging nature by the characteristic manner in which it induces the mortal personality to react to certain trying intellectual and testing social situations. Genuine spiritual faith (true moral consciousness) is revealed in that it:

    101:3.5 (1108.4) 1. Causes ethics and morals to progress despite inherent and adverse animalistic tendencies. *

    101:3.6 (1108.5) 2. Produces a sublime trust in the goodness of God even in the face of bitter disappointment and crushing defeat.

    101:3.7 (1108.6) 3. Generates profound courage and confidence despite natural adversity and physical calamity.

    101:3.8 (1108.7) 4. Exhibits inexplicable poise and sustaining tranquillity notwithstanding baffling diseases and even acute physical suffering.

    101:3.9 (1108.8) 5. Maintains a mysterious poise and composure of personality in the face of maltreatment and the rankest injustice.

    101:3.10 (1108.9) 6. Maintains a divine trust in ultimate victory in spite of the cruelties of seemingly blind fate and the apparent utter indifference of natural forces to human welfare.

    101:3.11 (1108.10) 7. Persists in the unswerving belief in God despite all contrary demonstrations of logic and successfully withstands all other intellectual sophistries.

    101:3.12 (1108.11) 8. Continues to exhibit undaunted faith in the soul’s survival regardless of the deceptive teachings of false science and the persuasive delusions of unsound philosophy.

    101:3.13 (1108.12) 9. Lives and triumphs irrespective of the crushing overload of the complex and partial civilizations of modern times.

    101:3.14 (1108.13) 10. Contributes to the continued survival of altruism in spite of human selfishness, social antagonisms, industrial greeds, and political maladjustments.

    101:3.15 (1108.14) 11. Steadfastly adheres to a sublime belief in universe unity and divine guidance regardless of the perplexing presence of evil and sin.

    101:3.16 (1108.15) 12. Goes right on worshiping God in spite of anything and everything. Dares to declare, “Even though he slay me, yet will I serve him.”

    101:3.17 (1108.16) We know, then, by three phenomena, that man has a divine spirit or spirits dwelling within him: first, by personal experience — religious faith; second, by revelation — personal and racial; and third, by the amazing exhibition of such extraordinary and unnatural reactions to his material environment as are illustrated by the foregoing recital of twelve spiritlike performances in the presence of the actual and trying situations of real human existence. And there are still others.

    101:3.18 (1109.1) And it is just such a vital and vigorous performance of faith in the domain of religion that entitles mortal man to affirm the personal possession and spiritual reality of that crowning endowment of human nature, religious experience.

     

    Me here:  We are taught that while there are no proofs of God one might give another, still there is ample evidence of God available to all – empirical, objective, rational, and logical evidence for consideration and contemplation – such as the inability of science to define, discover, or replicate the spark of life itself, and the Divine order and intricate intimacy of interconnectedness and interdependence of material functionality (lack of chaos), and the very presence and function and effect of LOVE, ….and the 12 evidences listed above of moral courage and the reality results of faith.

    The only true proof of God is the experience OF God within and those fruits of the Spirit which grow upon every branch attached to the vine by faith….the “…vital and vigorous performance of faith…”.  Faith changes us and it changes the world and it changes how the faith child perceives the world…

    One might claim that those who live in despair and doubt and believe in doom and promote the gloom for our world and its peoples, have a very definite personal issue regarding faith and the attachment of their branch to the vine….for the Papers teach clearly the fruits of the Spirit for faith children and the attributes that faith delivers to those with it.  If the fruits and the attributes are the evidence for faith, then there lack must be evidence of something else…and something less. Those who claim that few survive this life by their own critical judgments of others’ faith and fruits and ‘share’ their disappointments in humanity and our world’s progress by their own standards of faith and fruits, might consider their own presumptuousness of personal superiority and the beams of obstruction to such a view and such claims within their own eye:

    101:9.2 (1115.3) When you presume to sit in critical judgment on the primitive religion of man (or on the religion of primitive man), you should remember to judge such savages and to evaluate their religious experience in accordance with their enlightenment and status of conscience. Do not make the mistake of judging another’s religion by your own standards of knowledge and truth.

    I think perhaps it is true that those with the greatest beams of blinding obstacle to their vision, perception, perspective, and judgment are those with the weakest attachment to the vine….for the faithful celebrate life and the friendly universe while the weak wail and suffer from their endless anxieties and doubts and fears….and blames.

    The attributes are:  Trust, Courage, Confidence, Poise, Tranquility, Composure.

    And the fruits are: Love, Joy, Peace, Long-suffering, Gentleness, Goodness, Faith, Meekness, Temperance.

    5:2.4 (64.7) It is because of this God fragment that indwells you that you can hope, as you progress in harmonizing with the Adjuster’s spiritual leadings, more fully to discern the presence and transforming power of those other spiritual influences that surround you and impinge upon you but do not function as an integral part of you. The fact that you are not intellectually conscious of close and intimate contact with the indwelling Adjuster does not in the least disprove such an exalted experience. The proof of fraternity with the divine Adjuster consists wholly in the nature and extent of the fruits of the spirit which are yielded in the life experience of the individual believer. “By their fruits you shall know them.”

    And the Master said:

    159:3.10 (1766.6) You shall not portray your teacher as a man of sorrows. Future generations shall know also the radiance of our joy, the buoyance of our good will, and the inspiration of our good humor. We proclaim a message of good news which is infectious in its transforming power. Our religion is throbbing with new life and new meanings. Those who accept this teaching are filled with joy and in their hearts are constrained to rejoice evermore. Increasing happiness is always the experience of all who are certain about God.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  4. Reading ahead in the Papers on the Adjuster and in review of the first two Papers studied here (100/101)…it has occurred to me that I have an obligation and opportunity to consider my soul as one might consider one’s biological child.  Every being in time and space and more than a few created in Paradise are a result of the co-creative efforts of parents, whereby the created being takes on aspects or traits of each parent and yet also has new combinations of attributes and abilities not found in either parent alone.

    This life is not really about me (the material, temporal, ego-me)….it is about my soul….a whole new being that is the child of two….mortal/material mind (the material, temporal, ego-me) and the Spirit of the Father within….a co-created progeny….with eternal potential when fused with the God Fragment parent….at a specific time of perfecting and experiential wisdom of that morontia mind/soul so co-created.   So….am I acting like a parent?  Isn’t mortal paternity the example and pattern of this more universal paternity?  Don’t mortal parents exemplify the core values of self sacrificing love and duty and loyalty and abiding affection and forgiveness and longsuffering?  Isn’t our paternal experience the obvious lens for understanding God and the family of God?

    Isn’t then the Real Nature of Religion learning how to be a parent to soul?  To cooperate and coordinate with the co-parent in the nurturing and raising and education of the created being – our very soul?  Do we care as much about our soul as our material children?  Do we recognize that the future, our future, is determined by the way we parent and the outcome of our parenting?

    111:2.2 (1217.6) The material mind of mortal man is the cosmic loom that carries the morontia fabrics on which the indwelling Thought Adjuster threads the spirit patterns of a universe character of enduring values and divine meanings — a surviving soul of ultimate destiny and unending career, a potential finaliter.

    111:2.3 (1218.1) The human personality is identified with mind and spirit held together in functional relationship by life in a material body. This functioning relationship of such mind and spirit does not result in some combination of the qualities or attributes of mind and spirit but rather in an entirely new, original, and unique universe value of potentially eternal endurance, the soul.

    I am reflecting on all my mistakes as a parent and how I improved as a grandparent…which reminds me of the many forms and opportunities for improvement I have still in my parenting skills…the nurture of my very soul…..a child of the universe with an eternal and sublime adventure to anticipate and relish.

    Perhaps I let my self and self importance interfere too much and too often with the more noble attitude of the parent seeking the best outcome and future for my child of great promise?  I remember the story early in Paper 100 of the cave man and how such a savage so focused on serving his children are a glimpse of what is most noble about being human….just thinking out loud.

    ;-)

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  5. Greetings to All who are following along and those who might post questions, comments, insights, stories, and/or additional supporting and illuminating text for sharing!

    It is true, or so I have it found it so, that there are no superfluous or unimportant or uninteresting contents in the Papers.  But I think each person and mind does find those concepts and contents that are of greater importance to us relative to our personal religious experience and progress in the Spirit…at the time of reading and study.  Those concepts which leap from the page to mind in confirmation of belief and experience and those which trigger insights of connection, completion, and profound truth realizations lead each mind forward further and further into the text for more and greater discoveries!!  This curiosity cycle of hunger and its satisfaction is a natural function of the human mind.

    The Holy Spirit through the Adjutants and the Thought Adjusters and Son’s Spirit each and all utilize this same mind circuitry – we feel the yearn and the hunger and the thirst – and our personal response to the Spirit within brings us satisfaction.  Science teaches us that the brain – the electro/chemical aspect of mind or the host of our mind if you will – has similar craving and satisfaction centers and neuro response mechanisms, pleasure centers which trigger/cause certain behaviors and respond/effects to certain stimuli.  This pattern of our physiology is also very present and active in-mind, the host of belief, faith, emotion, feelings, trusts, loyalties, insight, religion, and Spirit; mind, the arena of choice.

    1. The Mind Arena of Choice

    111:1.1 (1216.2) Though the work of Adjusters is spiritual in nature, they must, perforce, do all their work upon an intellectual foundation. Mind is the human soil from which the spirit Monitor must evolve the morontia soul with the co-operation of the indwelt personality.

    111:1.3 (1216.4) Material mind is the arena in which human personalities live, are self-conscious, make decisions, choose God or forsake him, eternalize or destroy themselves.

    111:1.6 (1217.1) Mind is the cosmic instrument on which the human will can play the discords of destruction, or upon which this same human will can bring forth the exquisite melodies of God identification and consequent eternal survival. The Adjuster bestowed upon man is, in the last analysis, impervious to evil and incapable of sin, but mortal mind can actually be twisted, distorted, and rendered evil and ugly by the sinful machinations of a perverse and self-seeking human will. Likewise can this mind be made noble, beautiful, true, and good — actually great — in accordance with the spirit-illuminated will of a God-knowing human being.

    111:2.2 (1217.6) The material mind of mortal man is the cosmic loom that carries the morontia fabrics on which the indwelling Thought Adjuster threads the spirit patterns of a universe character of enduring values and divine meanings — a surviving soul of ultimate destiny and unending career, a potential finaliter.

    Me here:  Sometimes I feel like the UB is also a loom which manages to weave a very unique fabric and pattern of color and texture for each student – each of us has a very unique student experience by our studies and in our mind.  Knowledge is personalized based on prior experience and our appreciation, cognition/discernment, and integration with other knowledge.  So….all the tens of thousands of facts or bits of knowledge within this Epochal Revelation result in a very personalized appreciation of them and utilization of them in our own experience and expressions of understanding and realization.  Even more amazing is the ability of these Papers and Teachings to stimulate and deliver ever-new and expanding conceptualizations, understandings, appreciation, integrations, and the enhanced and expanded perspective of the student with each reading or study of the text.

    The reading and study of the UB is sort of metaphorical in its effects and results compared to the spiritualization of mind and growth of soul I think – meaning only that it is also transformative in its effects over time and experience…it is dynamic and responsive to experience and the growth of wisdom over time.  Now this is only true of course if one actually applies the information and the teachings and truly gains insights and realizes truths by the experience of such applications….reading, like mere believing delivers no true or valid or useful effects.  Reading and/or believing are truly the causes of little or no effect!

    My own experience with the Papers has been very accumulative over time whereby I enjoy a growing appreciation and expanding perspective that seems both greater in content and also in integration and harmonization of its contents and of the universe of universes it factually describes….it’s not just that’s there more content but that there is more meaning and value too….more and more effect from the same source of cause, the same facts, the same knowledge – both source and content delivers new meanings to discover and values to apply in the daily walk of mortal life.  It reminds me of the feedback loop of potential and its realization leading always to ever more potential by its ever greater realization…ad infintum!

    This describes the human condition…and our adventure to come.  The universes we are told are a vast university….learning, adapting to learning, and harmonizing our experience with others also learning in loving service to one another is the grand wheel of our destiny.  This will never end…this perfecting of wisdom by experience as we and once we have perfected our will and inner natures regarding motive, intention, and priority.  These 3 realities and causes we may perfect…but I doubt if we might ever exhaust the potential of experiential wisdom and the cause and effect potential of the unintended and unexpected outcomes NO MATTER our perfected motives, intention, and priorities??!!  Will we ever experience an end to surprise?  Or uncertainty?  Or adventure?  I have my doubts about such an eventuation of outcomes for those born/created in time and space.  I think our destiny is endless and eternal….but it will be an eternally endless adventure!

    Of course the cause of this transformative and transcendent experience I describe above, related to the study of the Urantia Papers (whether one comes to believe its claims for itself or not), is a function of the mind and its truth recognition role related to: 1). Evolutionary religion, science, and philosophy, 2). Personal experience with  all those, and  3). Epochal Revelation.  Each of these three realities have there own limitations and each depends upon the other two for greatest effect.

    Naturally we must first have curiosity and a mind which seeks understanding and truth in general, and we must have enough self control and will that we seek to overcome personal ignorance and the ego attachments which deliver prejudice (the love of our current beliefs and knowledge), and it helps if we have sufficient hope and faith and trust that we can lay aside anxieties in such pursuits.  By this WAY may the mind be transformed by the transcendent experience for which it is designed and created!

    It takes the personal poise and trust of a faith child to overcome the limitations of revelation while gaining the full harvest of its potential fruits!

    4. The Limitations of Revelation

    101:4.1 (1109.2) Because your world is generally ignorant of origins, even of physical origins, it has appeared to be wise from time to time to provide instruction in cosmology. And always has this made trouble for the future. The laws of revelation hamper us greatly by their proscription of the impartation of unearned or premature knowledge. Any cosmology presented as a part of revealed religion is destined to be outgrown in a very short time. Accordingly, future students of such a revelation are tempted to discard any element of genuine religious truth it may contain because they discover errors on the face of the associated cosmologies therein presented.

    101:4.2 (1109.3) Mankind should understand that we who participate in the revelation of truth are very rigorously limited by the instructions of our superiors. We are not at liberty to anticipate the scientific discoveries of a thousand years. Revelators must act in accordance with the instructions which form a part of the revelation mandate. We see no way of overcoming this difficulty, either now or at any future time. We full well know that, while the historic facts and religious truths of this series of revelatory presentations will stand on the records of the ages to come, within a few short years many of our statements regarding the physical sciences will stand in need of revision in consequence of additional scientific developments and new discoveries. These new developments we even now foresee, but we are forbidden to include such humanly undiscovered facts in the revelatory records. Let it be made clear that revelations are not necessarily inspired. The cosmology of these revelations is not inspired. It is limited by our permission for the co-ordination and sorting of present-day knowledge. While divine or spiritual insight is a gift, human wisdom must evolve.

    101:4.3 (1109.4) Truth is always a revelation: autorevelation when it emerges as a result of the work of the indwelling Adjuster; epochal revelation when it is presented by the function of some other celestial agency, group, or personality.

    101:4.4 (1109.5) In the last analysis, religion is to be judged by its fruits, according to the manner and the extent to which it exhibits its own inherent and divine excellence.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  6. From 101:4.1 above:

    Accordingly, future students of such a revelation are tempted to discard any element of genuine religious truth it may contain because they discover errors on the face of the associated cosmologies therein presented.

    Why would there be errors regarding the cosmos in The Urantia Book from revelators? Would it be more  correct to say mortals discover there is more than what is revealed?

  7. Hi Mark,

    Personally I don’t believe there are errors in the UB but I’ve been dealing with this problem for some time now. A lot of people who are curious about the UB have told me that they have rejected it because the science (cosmology) doesn’t add up for them. It doesn’t meet their understanding of what current scientific evidence or theory support.

    And there’s no gettin’ around this problem.

    I think what the revelators are saying in 101:4.1 is that the revelatory limitations set on them, on the one hand, forces them to reveal some things only up to and not beyond the current discoveries that we had in 1935 for example with Mercury’s axial rotation, and on the other, revealing things that go way beyond current conventional scientific theory, as in the case of the evolution and migrations of man.

    This sets the entire thing for people who have a leaning towards fanaticism with science to be in that department where the baby has to be thrown out with the bathwater.  :-(

    But fortunately, and this is the case for me, there is a way around all this. We know it as FAITH.

     

  8. From 101:4.1 above: Accordingly, future students of such a revelation are tempted to discard any element of genuine religious truth it may contain because they discover errors on the face of the associated cosmologies therein presented.
    Why would there be errors regarding the cosmos in The Urantia Book from revelators? Would it be more  correct to say mortals discover there is more than what is revealed?
    Hi Mark.  I think your answer is in the context of the entire paragraph, as follows:
    4. The Limitations of Revelation

    101:4.1 (1109.2) Because your world is generally ignorant of origins, even of physical origins, it has appeared to be wise from time to time to provide instruction in cosmology. And always has this made trouble for the future. The laws of revelation hamper us greatly by their proscription of the impartation of unearned or premature knowledge. Any cosmology presented as a part of revealed religion is destined to be outgrown in a very short time. Accordingly, future students of such a revelation are tempted to discard any element of genuine religious truth it may contain because they discover errors on the face of the associated cosmologies therein presented.

  9. Thank you Mara, but it is the word “errors” and in the context “cosmologies therein presented”— in the revelation. This is the basis of my question. Perhaps midwayers do err?

  10. Thank you Van Amadon. I concur.

     

  11. From 101:4.1 above:

    Accordingly, future students of such a revelation are tempted to discard any element of genuine religious truth it may contain because they discover errors on the face of the associated cosmologies therein presented.

    Why would there be errors regarding the cosmos in The Urantia Book from revelators? Would it be more correct to say mortals discover there is more than what is revealed?

    Yes Mark….very curious.  If incomplete (like a 101 textbook vs. 201), why not say “incomplete”?  They use the word “errors” and I have found the use of language pretty precise and intentional.

    I’ve had many an argument over the phrase “not inspired” as well (“The cosmology of these revelations is not inspired.”) ….which means to some “a falsehood” but to me means factual and from the horse’s mouth so to speak.  Inspired to me means from the human mind, not the celestial mind of the authors.  The Psalms are inspired.  The highest human concepts found in the UB by unattributed ” ” quote marks indicates that which was/is inspired.  The facts of Epochal Revelation are not inspired….they are fact delivered to reduce confusion and eliminate error!!

    We are clearly told that history presented is factual and will stand the test of time.

    Quite a perplexion!!

    I am most amused by those who seek out and claim errors in the UB with great gusto and agenda who pick out every example of conflict and contradiction with current or recent scientific theories.  Some students appear to have far more confidence in current scientific theory than science itself does!!!  The scientific method works best to disprove prior theoretical constructs of observation and measurement.

    Science believes (mostly) in the original singularity which newer observations/measurements prove false making way for newer theories, now including intelligent management and multiple and on-going creationism.  Old science claims stellar distances by a steady speed of light in a local vacuum…now proven to be misleading and false – an inaccurate measurement of time and distance both.  Carbon dating has changed the historical record multiple times in the past few decades for many items and issues.  Science still seeks the nonexistent missing link.  The list goes on and on and on.

    The point being that despite the disclaimer of the UB authors, those who attempt to prove any such errors merely by current scientific ‘evidence’ and ‘theory’ are doomed to disappointment…and soon!  Don’t know what “errors” do exist or if any have truly been confirmed by the scientific method…but we are told this will occur sooner or later.  We are advised to not be too perturbed when it occurs.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  12. 101:4.5 (1109.6) Truth may be but relatively inspired, even though revelation is invariably a spiritual phenomenon. While statements with reference to cosmology are never inspired, such revelations are of immense value in that they at least transiently clarify knowledge by:

    101:4.6 (1109.7) 1. The reduction of confusion by the authoritative elimination of error.

    101:4.7 (1109.8) 2. The co-ordination of known or about-to-be-known facts and observations.

    101:4.8 (1110.1) 3. The restoration of important bits of lost knowledge concerning epochal transactions in the distant past.

    101:4.9 (1110.2) 4. The supplying of information which will fill in vital missing gaps in otherwise earned knowledge.

    101:4.10 (1110.3) 5. Presenting cosmic data in such a manner as to illuminate the spiritual teachings contained in the accompanying revelation.

    So…what is inspired?  And what is not?

    Personal revelation received is inspired to me….through the mind to the being.  Personal revelation expressed by word or deed is often inspiring….that which is created as an expression of mind and its abilities for insight and understanding and perspective that we may communicate to others.  Something we will receive much education and training for in the adventures ahead…here and there!

    How are epochal and personal revelation different?  The same or similar?

    ;-)

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  13. Thank you Mara, but it is the word “errors” and in the context “cosmologies therein presented”— in the revelation. This is the basis of my question.

    Hi Mark.  I think your question about midwayers is a separate question.

    I’ve been thinking about your first question.  In particular I’ve been thinking about “. . . errors on the face of the associated cosmologies therein presented.”

    (Here is what Merriam-Webster has to say about cosmology:  “Cosmology definition, the branch of philosophy dealing with the origin and general structure of the universe, with its parts, elements, and laws, and especially with such of its characteristics as space, time, causality, and freedom, etc. ” Here is another definition: “Cosmology is a branch of astronomy that involves the origin and evolution of the universe, from the Big Bang to today and on into the future.”  And there are other definitions if you google cosmology.)

    In reality, The Urantia Book itself directs readers to understand this: “Truth remains unchanged from generation to generation, but the associated teachings about the physical world vary from day to day and from year to year. ”

    102:1.3   Owing to the isolation of rebellion, the revelation of truth on Urantia has all too often been mixed up with the statements of partial and transient cosmologies. Truth remains unchanged from generation to generation, but the associated teachings about the physical world vary from day to day and from year to year. Eternal truth should not be slighted because it chances to be found in company with obsolete ideas regarding the material world. The more of science you know, the less sure you can be; the more of religion you have, the more certain you are.

     

  14. Actually the definition of “cosmology” changed dramatically in the early 30’s to then become dominated by the big bang theory and by a significant reduction of prior meanings.

    Religious and philosophical definitions were integral to the scientific definition prior to the 30’s when secular science finally declared itself godless…officially it seems.

    True cosmology includes origins, causes, relationships, process, and destinies…..all of which is contrary to the newer definition imposed by secular, godless science based entirely, today, on falsehoods of premise and foundation.

    So the cosmology presented to the heathens and primitives in Dalmatia’s schools and the schools of the Garden and by Big Mac and by the Master (the first 4 epochal revelations) were likely each progressively different….and would be throughout each Mortal Epoch described in the UB.

    :good:

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  15. Well said Bradly. I wish I had more time to comment further on the subject but too busy right now.

    Btw, did you know that our friend Larry Watkins over at TB passed away last month?

  16. Yes Enno, I read that too about Larry….a truly dedicated servant of the Revelation and its dissemination…and one who gave me frequent, and well deserved rebuke!  My condolences to those who love and miss him….and congratulations to Larry on his successful graduation.  We’ll see him up the Glory Road!

    Everyone feel free to revisit the ‘error’ and ‘not inspired’ issues as you wish…and again, take the topical study here in any direction and with any supporting text, experiences, and opinions you might contribute.

    5. Religion Expanded by Revelation

    101:5.1 (1110.4) Revelation is a technique whereby ages upon ages of time are saved in the necessary work of sorting and sifting the errors of evolution from the truths of spirit acquirement.

    Me here:  There is no distinction here between personal/auto revelation and the epochal variety so I assume that the authors are saying that both forms of revelation, the one which delivers insights and confirmations of truths discerned (personal) and the other which delivers facts and knowledge of reality (epochal), are required and normal on all material worlds and it is revelation that works to propel humanity through the Mortal Epochs.  Without the Prince and Garden and Magisterial and Teacher Sons and the Spirits of the Father and Son, humans would languish in barbarity and primitivism endlessly perhaps.  Revelation is the delivery mechanism for progress…both personal and thusly, socially and culturally too…as go the parts, so goes the whole.

    There’s been much speculation as to the utilization of the device of a book as a form of Epochal Revelation over the years.  I’ve always found it very practical and logical myself.  Our world has no material leadership to represent universe reality as example or teacher or authority due to reasons known well enough here among us.  But the libraries and classrooms of the Garden and Dalmatia would be filled with such text books as the UB on every fact and topic presented to us in the UB today….such knowledge and facts on reality would be as common as the Bible and Cat in the Hat are in the USA…not just in those two centers of learning either, but in homes and libraries throughout the world wherever the radial effects of education and knowledge took such information about universe realities.

    Those texts and in-person teachings and education would be restricted in their developmental presentations of knowledge based on the restrictions and constraints of all revelation presented incrementally to native mortals, as described in the prior text considered here.

    But consider the conundrum of our planetary leadership now….those who do not awe and overwhelm by signs and wonders and who will not reveal that which is not evolutionarily digestible….how do they now deliver epochal revelation to such a world?  A book….of course.  A seed of fact and truth planted in the soil of time….and mind.

    101:5.2 (1110.5) Science deals with facts; religion is concerned only with values. Through enlightened philosophy the mind endeavors to unite the meanings of both facts and values, thereby arriving at a concept of complete reality. Remember that science is the domain of knowledge, philosophy the realm of wisdom, and religion the sphere of the faith experience. But religion, nonetheless, presents two phases of manifestation:

    101:5.3 (1110.6) 1. Evolutionary religion. The experience of primitive worship, the religion which is a mind derivative.

    101:5.4 (1110.7) 2. Revealed religion. The universe attitude which is a spirit derivative; the assurance of, and belief in, the conservation of eternal realities, the survival of personality, and the eventual attainment of the cosmic Deity, whose purpose has made all this possible. It is a part of the plan of the universe that, sooner or later, evolutionary religion is destined to receive the spiritual expansion of revelation.

    101:5.5 (1110.8) Both science and religion start out with the assumption of certain generally accepted bases for logical deductions. So, also, must philosophy start its career upon the assumption of the reality of three things:

    101:5.6 (1110.9) 1. The material body.

    101:5.7 (1110.10) 2. The supermaterial phase of the human being, the soul or even the indwelling spirit.

    101:5.8 (1110.11) 3. The human mind, the mechanism for intercommunication and interassociation between spirit and matter, between the material and the spiritual.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  17. . . . I assume that the authors are saying that both forms of revelation, the one which delivers insights and confirmations of truths discerned (personal) and the other which delivers facts and knowledge of reality (epochal), . . .

    I don’t understand this.  Are you saying that epochal revelation is about intellectual facts and knowledge?

  18. Inspired to me means from the human mind, . . .

    What does this mean?  What kind of inspiration are you referring to?

  19. . . . I assume that the authors are saying that both forms of revelation, the one which delivers insights and confirmations of truths discerned (personal) and the other which delivers facts and knowledge of reality (epochal), . . .

    I don’t understand this. Are you saying that epochal revelation is about intellectual facts and knowledge?

    In 101:4.5-10 below it is clear that epochal revelation is or certainly can be facts and knowledge, yes.  The UB is filled with many tens of thousands of facts….about God, creation, beings, circuits, physics, history, relationships, sources, destinies, mind, spirit, evolution, progress, etc., etc.

    101:4.5 (1109.6) Truth may be but relatively inspired, even though revelation is invariably a spiritual phenomenon. While statements with reference to cosmology are never inspired, such revelations are of immense value in that they at least transiently clarify knowledge by:
    101:4.6 (1109.7) 1. The reduction of confusion by the authoritative elimination of error.
    101:4.7 (1109.8) 2. The co-ordination of known or about-to-be-known facts and observations.
    101:4.8 (1110.1) 3. The restoration of important bits of lost knowledge concerning epochal transactions in the distant past.
    101:4.9 (1110.2) 4. The supplying of information which will fill in vital missing gaps in otherwise earned knowledge.
    101:4.10 (1110.3) 5. Presenting cosmic data in such a manner as to illuminate the spiritual teachings contained in the accompanying revelation.

    Each of the 4 prior ER’s delivered many a fact to humanity….the third to restore the fact of monotheism or the First Source and Center and the Master’s fourth to restore the fact of God’s love, paternal nature, and the resulting family of the friendly universe and the eternal nature of the human soul….life everlasting by resurrection of the soul.

    Such facts and knowledge “illuminate” the spiritual teachings which accompany the facts/knowledge presented and also illuminate the truths discovered by personal revelation as well….or so I understand.

    Our world’s scientific, religious, and philosophic perspectives are all in need of some universe reality adjustments – facts and knowledge about how things truly are and operate and the inherent relationships between the 3 aspects of perspective with and participation in reality…..or so I understand.

    Now I have heard some claim that they receive facts from their TA or by divine communications/visions/voices, etc.  I don’t believe these claims.  By my understanding, personal revelation and the Spirits within of its only available sources are not in the business of such knowledge imparting….theirs is the business of spiritization and truth and wisdom and Circle Progress and soul building….none of which depends upon facts or knowledge of facts but, rather, depends upon faith and the relationship of mind to Spirit.

    Again….this is but my understanding of the teachings….not a declaration of fact (yes, pun intended)!

    ;-)

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  20. In 101:4.5-10 below it is clear that epochal revelation is or certainly can be facts and knowledge, yes.  The UB is filled with many tens of thousands of facts….about God, creation, beings, circuits, physics, history, relationships, sources, destinies, mind, spirit, evolution, progress, etc., etc.

    Epochal revelation may include facts and knowledge, but is that what epochal revelation is really all about?  Were Jesus and Melchizedek about facts and knowledge?

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