Is the church/temple/synagogue the proper place to inaugurate the institution of self-gratification and personal pleasure the authors recommend?
Where is that mentioned?
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The Institution of Pleasure
30 posts · 4 participants · started Aug 10, 2019, 4:42 PM
Is the church/temple/synagogue the proper place to inaugurate the institution of self-gratification and personal pleasure the authors recommend?
Where is that mentioned?
It’s not. Just wondering where the institution is to reside… Within another larger institution? Or do you envision it as a stand-alone institution?
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Richard E Warren
Just wondering where the institution is to reside… Within another larger institution? Or do you envision it as a stand-alone institution?
Isn’t the problem, that we don’t have a stand alone institution? Isn’t that why it’s percolated through all the other institutions?
I’m wondering if the video gaming industry with its virtual reality is beginning to partially fill that bill. It is entertaining, playful, game-oriented, fun, imaginative, and in some cases, socializing, such as in Pokemon Go. I’m not saying it’s the answer though. But for that matter, social media in general might qualify as an institution of self-gratification. I don’t belong to Facebook, but my friends who do are all absorbed in self-gratification on multiple levels. Maybe that’s why it’s so popular.
Just wondering where the institution is to reside… Within another larger institution? Or do you envision it as a stand-alone institution?
Isn’t the problem, that we don’t have a stand alone institution? Isn’t that why it’s percolated through all the other institutions?
Yeah, true.
I’m wondering if the video gaming industry with its virtual reality is beginning to partially fill that bill. It is entertaining, playful, game-oriented, fun, imaginative, and in some cases, socializing, such as in Pokemon Go. I’m not saying it’s the answer though.
Could be!! That’s a good idea.
But for that matter, social media in general might qualify as an institution of self-gratification. I don’t belong to Facebook, but my friends who do are all absorbed in self-gratification on multiple levels. Maybe that’s why it’s so popular.
Lump me in with those pathetic self-absorbed multiply addicted (fill in the blank_________) friends. But, mind you, social media is about the same as here, not that different, but with vastly more participants. I think it’s also a broad base for dissemination of the teachings. There you can see what 1000’s of other revelation revelers are doing dissemination-wise, and love-wise. Your vast experience and wisdom would serve well on Facebook and other platforms with so many excellent questions ever coming from new and junior readers.
FB is like any place else on Urantia, the Web, TV, the movies, temple, sports, projects, only about ten percent has much quality. And casting aspersions, stereotyping all social media users is a little, what? insulting? uh… hurtful? unkind… help me here, Bonita
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Richard E Warren
Rick Warren wrote: And casting aspersions, stereotyping all social media users is a little, what? insulting? uh… hurtful? unkind… help me here, Bonita
Here’s the one single sentence I wrote about Facebook:
I don’t belong to Facebook, but my friends who do are all absorbed in self-gratification on multiple levels. Maybe that’s why it’s so popular.
Tell me how that is stereotyping ALL social media users? Rick, you shock me, and piss me off. Tell me, what are the multiple levels of self-gratification???? Other than sheer vanity, are any of them negative? Aren’t all of them about pleasure? Did I say my friends are doing something wrong? Where do you get all the insult, hurt and unkindness? Give me a break. Not a good way to start the day. I’m so tired of having my words twisted around to mean something they don’t. Have a nice day.
Rick Warren wrote: And casting aspersions, stereotyping all social media users is a little, what? insulting? uh… hurtful? unkind… help me here, Bonita
Here’s the one single sentence I wrote about Facebook:
I don’t belong to Facebook, but my friends who do are all absorbed in self-gratification on multiple levels. Maybe that’s why it’s so popular.
Tell me how that is stereotyping ALL social media users?
Well, there is the word all.
Rick, you shock me,
Guess we both are.
and piss me off. Tell me, what are the multiple levels of self-gratification???? Other than sheer vanity, are any of them negative? Aren’t all of them about pleasure? Did I say my friends are doing something wrong? Where do you get all the insult, hurt and unkindness?
So you meant the many layered self-gratification that FB provides is mostly a good thing? I did misunderstand that.
Give me a break. Not a good way to start the day. I’m so tired of having my words twisted around to mean something they don’t. Have a nice day.
You too. Hope you feel better as it unfolds.
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Richard E Warren
- Rick Warren wrote:Well, there is the word all.All my FRIENDS Rick, All my FRIENDS. NOT THE WHOLE WORLD.
So this is your mistake, not mine. How about an apology for accusing me of thinking and writing hateful, hurtful, mean and awful things? I didn’t realize you had such a low and nasty opinion of me. Now at least I know.
- Rick Warren wrote:Well, there is the word all.All my FRIENDS Rick, All my FRIENDS. NOT THE WHOLE WORLD.
So this is your mistake, not mine. How about an apology for accusing me of thinking and writing hateful, hurtful, mean and awful things?
I said I mistook your intent, and I don’t like having bad blood between me and anyone. If an apology will restore your good humor and amity between us, you have it.
I didn’t realize you had such a low and nasty opinion of me. Now at least I know.
Not so on either account. It’s rather high.
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Richard E Warren
In Brotherhood’s sake,
Why not apply this course of action !
132:0.4 And this was his method of instruction: Never once did he attack their errors or even mention the flaws in their teachings. In each case he would select the truth in what they taught and then proceed so to embellish and illuminate this truth in their minds that in a very short time this enhancement of the truth effectively crowded out the associated error …
If we do not back-up the Brotherhood behavior who will ?
In Brotherhood’s sake, Why not apply this course of action ! 132:0.4 And this was his method of instruction: Never once did he attack their errors or even mention the flaws in their teachings. In each case he would select the truth in what they taught and then proceed so to embellish and illuminate this truth in their minds that in a very short time this enhancement of the truth effectively crowded out the associated error … If we do not back-up the Brotherhood behavior who will ?
Good point, thank you.
Back to pleasure’s institutional foundations.
A very convincing scholar and doctor spoke, on the radio, for an hour on the vast difference between the effects of the hormones serotonin and dopamine. Dopamine gives the quick high from sugar, drugs, games, name your poison. It’s the excitement hormone. Serotonin is the more enduring ‘happiness’ hormone. It must be connected with service, because the service high is one of the most gratifying, no? It’s up there with the gratifications of worship, but has little in common with the euphoria of the drug high..Richard E Warren
