↗ Live site
Preview: a read-only copy of the forum. To post or reply, use the current forum.

Social brotherhood

53 posts · 6 participants · started Aug 10, 2015, 5:15 PM

  1. Vern wrote:  From recognition of your own sonship status, inevitably follows, recognition of this same status of our fellows, this is social brotherhood.
    This reminds me of these thought-provoking remarks.
    (156:5:14)   Spiritual living mightily increases true self-respect. But self-respect is not self-admiration. Self-respect is always co-ordinate with the love and service of one’s fellows. It is not possible to respect yourself more than you love your neighbor; the one is the measure of the capacity for the other.
  2. @Vern – I do not know when it happened, maybe because it was a gradual progress, but my fear button is never activated by those who seek to activate it through basic psychological savagery that is akin to holding your child hostage at gunpoint – your child being a metaphor for the “future” in a philosophical sense.  Did “faith” play a part in becoming fearless? If it did then I will default to the one-liner – “If you have faith, then keep it to yourself.”  I own the faith I have.  Caesar can’t foreclose on it ;-)

    Self-respect? A habit long ago started and NURTURED by parents who really did dedicate their parenting towards “raising” me – spiritually.  Realized the “spiritual” part at about 15 years old when the first major crisis appeared – the usual “bullying” stuff that happens in school.  I agree with the TUB that says that people who choose one or the other, exclusively, God or Caesar, suffer less intellectual confusion, in general.  If you can’t take it with you, the truth of what kind of life is led when it is all about giving to Caesar, then to quote the Bard in his play, “All the world’s a stage…”  A game….  That philosophy of living never attracted me, where’s the love?  Where’s the truth, beauty and goodness…?

    Social brotherhoods are fluid and will always be more than the individual part that is held in common.  The unifying belief, if you will.

    Who is going to be offended if a deep study of TUB regarding a social brotherhood is frank and truthful?  Attack the book if you must, don’t attack the reader with innuendo using cut and paste functions :-)

    ALL of problems in the NOW can be “raised” for a solution ala the Descenders meeting the Ascenders.

    I wonder what happened to the “social brotherhood” of the church of my childhood because I miss their intellectual, moral and spiritual PROTECTION.  It is a depressing story of what happens when “church” is not kept separate from “state”.

    Truth seekers who seek the truth “for the greater good” have no protectors and are even told (channeled updates to TUB?!) that they have no RIGHT to defend against PREDATORS.  So yes, I am interested where this fashionable “social brotherhood” is going to go – wh

    God’s love does not love unreality.  Now THAT is a deep study of TUB that is a unifying truth for a “social brotherhood” to embrace.

    In the meantime, just want to find a social brotherhood of “Christians” who do not ask for a pledge of allegiance to the atonement doctrine to enter their secret club…yeah, good luck with that, right?  I might find a bone-fide unicorn first…

  3. To reiterate: To love your neighbor as yourself is the highest ethics.  While Jesus has shown the way to the immediate attainment of spiritual brotherhood, the realization of social brotherhood on your world depends much on the achievement of the following personal transformations and planetary adjustments:

    .

    (52:6:5)  3. Ethical awakening. Only ethical consciousness can unmask the immorality of human intolerance and the sinfulness of fratricidal strife. Only a moral conscience can condemn the evils of national envy and racial jealousy. Only moral beings will ever seek for that spiritual insight which is essential to living the golden rule.                                              .

    .

    It’s easy to roll the golden rule off the tongue, but look at these fascinating comments that add depth to what is considered the highest ethics, the rule of conduct satisfied only when we love our fellows as Jesus loves us all.

    (180:5:5  ) The golden rule, when divested of the superhuman insight of the Spirit of Truth, becomes nothing more than a rule of high ethical conduct. The golden rule, when literally interpreted, may become the instrument of great offense to one’s fellows. Without a spiritual discernment of the golden rule of wisdom you might reason that, since you are desirous that all men speak the full and frank truth of their minds to you, you should therefore fully and frankly speak the full thought of your mind to your fellow beings. Such an unspiritual interpretation of the golden rule might result in untold unhappiness and no end of sorrow.

    .

    ( 180:5:6 )  Some persons discern and interpret the golden rule as a purely intellectual affirmation of human fraternity. Others experience this expression of human relationship as an emotional gratification of the tender feelings of the human personality. Another mortal recognizes this same golden rule as the yardstick for measuring all social relations, the standard of social conduct. Still others look upon it as being the positive injunction of a great moral teacher who embodied in this statement the highest concept of moral obligation as regards all fraternal relationships. In the lives of such moral beings the golden rule becomes the wise center and circumference of all their philosophy.

     

    ( 180:5:6 )  In the kingdom of the believing brotherhood of God-knowing truth lovers, this golden rule takes on living qualities of spiritual realization on those higher levels of interpretation which cause the mortal sons of God to view this injunction of the Master as requiring them so to relate themselves to their fellows that they will receive the highest possible good as a result of the believer’s contact with them. This is the essence of true religion: that you love your neighbor as yourself.

    .

    (180:5:6  ) But the highest realization and the truest interpretation of the golden rule consists in the consciousness of the spirit of the truth of the enduring and living reality of such a divine declaration. The true cosmic meaning of this rule of universal relationship is revealed only in its spiritual realization, in the interpretation of the law of conduct by the spirit of the Son to the spirit of the Father that indwells the soul of mortal man. And when such spirit-led mortals realize the true meaning of this golden rule, they are filled to overflowing with the assurance of citizenship in a friendly universe, and their ideals of spirit reality are satisfied only when they love their fellows as Jesus loved us all, and that is the reality of the realization of the love of God.

    .

     

     

     

     

     

    .

     

     

  4. ( 180:5:7 )  . . . injunction of the Master as requiring them so to relate themselves to their fellows that they will receive the highest possible good as a result of the believer’s contact with them. This is the essence of true religion: that you love your neighbor as yourself.

    .

    Isn’t this public forum the place to accomplish the Master’s injunction?  I think so.  This injunction is what motivates me to post on this forum – that you, my fellow travelers, will receive the highest possible good as a result of your reading what I post.  My goal is not to drag the conversations down, but rather to lift them up.  I am a finite mortal person endowed with what you are endowed with: all the gifts given from God; a lot of potentials not yet actualized; a lot of help from our unseen friends; an inquiring mind; a desire to share.  On ethics I would like to share these:

    .

    (160:5:5) The social characteristics of a true religion consist in the fact that it invariably seeks to convert the individual and to transform the world. Religion implies the existence of undiscovered ideals which far transcend the known standards of ethics and morality embodied in even the highest social usages of the most mature institutions of civilization. Religion reaches out for undiscovered ideals, unexplored realities, superhuman values, divine wisdom, and true spirit attainment. True religion does all of this; all other beliefs are not worthy of the name. You cannot have a genuine spiritual religion without the supreme and supernal ideal of an eternal God. A religion without this God is an invention of man, a human institution of lifeless intellectual beliefs and meaningless emotional ceremonies. A religion might claim as the object of its devotion a great ideal. But such ideals of unreality are not attainable; such a concept is illusionary. The only ideals susceptible of human attainment are the divine realities of the infinite values resident in the spiritual fact of the eternal God.

    .

    (27:3:1) The higher you ascend in the scale of life, the more attention must be paid to universe ethics. Ethical awareness is simply the recognition by any individual of the rights inherent in the existence of any and all other individuals. But spiritual ethics far transcends the mortal and even the morontia concept of personal and group relations.

    .

    ( 28:6:18) This is not an egocentric universe. The Gods have decreed, “It is more blessed to give than to receive,” and said your Master Son, “He who would be greatest among you let him be server of all.”

     

  5. Here is the fourth in the list of areas of personal transformations and planetary adjustments necessary to achieve social brotherhood.  Interesting to me the revelators highlight self-control and emotional maturity.

    .

    4. Political wisdom. Emotional maturity is essential to self-control. Only emotional maturity will insure the substitution of international techniques of civilized adjudication for the barbarous arbitrament of war. Wise statesmen will sometime work for the welfare of humanity even while they strive to promote the interest of their national or racial groups. Selfish political sagacity is ultimately suicidal–destructive of all those enduring qualities which insure planetary group survival.

    .

    A side-note about the self and maturity relative to wisdom.

    .

    (118:1:5) In the maturity of the developing self, the past and future are brought together to illuminate the true meaning of the present. As the self matures, it reaches further and further back into the past for experience, while its wisdom forecasts seek to penetrate deeper and deeper into the unknown future. And as the conceiving self extends this reach ever further into both past and future, so does judgment become less and less dependent on the momentary present. In this way does decision-action begin to escape from the fetters of the moving present, while it begins to take on the aspects of past-future significance.

    .

    (160:1:6) When men dare to forsake a life of natural craving for one of adventurous art and uncertain logic, they must expect to suffer the consequent hazards of emotional casualties–conflicts, unhappiness, and uncertainties–at least until the time of their attainment of some degree of intellectual and emotional maturity. Discouragement, worry, and indolence are positive evidence of moral immaturity. Human society is confronted with two problems: attainment of the maturity of the individual and attainment of the maturity of the race. The mature human being soon begins to look upon all other mortals with feelings of tenderness and with emotions of tolerance. Mature men view immature folks with the love and consideration that parents bear their children.

     

    I selected this reference to draw attention to an explanation of both personal and of group and national difficulties.

    ( 111:4:10 ) Ideas may take origin in the stimuli of the outer world, but ideals are born only in the creative realms of the inner world. Today the nations of the world are directed by men who have a superabundance of ideas, but they are poverty-stricken in ideals. That is the explanation of poverty, divorce, war, and racial hatreds.

    .

    Wise statesmen will sometime work for the welfare of humanity, among other things.  Do we expect our statesmen to be religionists?  I don’t like  religious promotions and religious propaganda promulgated by statesmen, but I do look for crumbs of faith-conviction to assure me the individual is a religionist.

    (99:2:3) Religionists must function in society, in industry, and in politics as individuals, not as groups, parties, or institutions. A religious group which presumes to function as such, apart from religious activities, immediately becomes a political party, an economic organization, or a social institution. Religious collectivism must confine its efforts to the furtherance of religious causes.

    ..

    Jesus counseled James Zebedee.

    ( 181:2:15) […] You and your brother John will go different ways, and one of you may sit down with me in the eternal kingdom long before the other. It would help you much if you would learn that true wisdom embraces discretion as well as courage. You should learn sagacity to go along with your aggressiveness.

     

     

     

     

  6. There are no “chosen people”.

    That is an experiential and collective wisdom that allows for global progress towards peace.

  7. Mara wrote: (111:4:10 )  […] Today the nations of the world are directed by men who have a superabundance of ideas, but they are poverty-stricken in ideals.
    Poverty-stricken in ideals.  That’s a very strong statement as an explanation of poverty, divorce, war, and racial hatreds.  Social brotherhood is an ideal and I think it is inevitable on our world.  I want to share with you a series of references pertaining to “ideals”.  One of the first ones that come to my mind is this one that pertains to both you and me.
    .
    ( 156:5:16 ) Are your ideals sufficiently high to insure your eternal salvation while your ideas are so practical as to render you a useful citizen to function on earth in association with your mortal fellows? In the spirit, your citizenship is in heaven; in the flesh, you are still citizens of the earth kingdoms. Render to the Caesars the things which are material and to God those which are spiritual.
    .
    Next, in the least material of society’s achievements (and what do you suppose those are?) is resident the driving-power of even the most material aspects of cultural civilization.  The one uplifts the other.
    .
    81:6:27   Ideals elevate the source of the social stream. And no stream will rise any higher than its source no matter what technique of pressure or directional control may be employed. The driving power of even the most material aspects of a cultural civilization is resident in the least material of society’s achievements. Intelligence may control the mechanism of civilization, wisdom may direct it, but spiritual idealism is the energy which really uplifts and advances human culture from one level of attainment to another.
    .
    Again, the cultural movement of a race or nation will go forward or backward by the quality of the ideals of any given generation.  The character trend of a succeeding generation, they tell us, is evident in the homes, churches and schools of the current generation.
    The ideals of one generation carve out the channels of destiny for immediate posterity. The quality of the social torchbearers will determine whether civilization goes forward or backward. The homes, churches, and schools of one generation predetermine the character trend of the succeeding generation. The moral and spiritual momentum of a race or a nation largely determines the cultural velocity of that civilization.
    .
    Urantia has made a beginning.
    .
    (81:6:40)  Man should be unafraid to experiment with the mechanisms of society. But always should these adventures in cultural adjustment be controlled by those who are fully conversant with the history of social evolution; and always should these innovators be counseled by the wisdom of those who have had practical experience in the domains of contemplated social or economic experiment. No great social or economic change should be attempted suddenly. Time is essential to all types of human adjustment — physical, social, or economic. Only moral and spiritual adjustments can be made on the spur of the moment, and even these require the passing of time for the full outworking of their material and social repercussions. The ideals of the race are the chief support and assurance during the critical times when civilization is in transit from one level to another.
    .
    (71:8:15) . . . civilized races have made a beginning–mankind is on the march toward higher evolutionary destinies.
    .
    The social ship is on the high seas of evolutionary destiny.
    (99:1:3)  Urantia society can never hope to settle down as in past ages. The social ship has steamed out of the sheltered bays of established tradition and has begun its cruise upon the high seas of evolutionary destiny; and the soul of man, as never before in the world’s history, needs carefully to scrutinize its charts of morality and painstakingly to observe the compass of religious guidance. The paramount mission of religion as a social influence is to stabilize the ideals of mankind during these dangerous times of transition from one phase of civilization to another, from one level of culture to another.
    .
    Take heart, Jesus said, “I will pour out this same spirit upon all flesh. The fruits of the spirit, your sincere and loving service, are the mighty social lever to uplift the races of darkness, and this Spirit of Truth will become your power-multiplying fulcrum.”  (178:1:6) He did and the SoT does.
  8. Paper 99 – “…..The paramount mission of religion as a social influence is to stabilize the ideals of mankind during these dangerous times of transition from one phase of civilization to another, from one level of culture to another….”

    The mechanistic insiders gallivanting in the PHYSICAL archives of millennia preserved by “church” have decided to go “delusional” to the crisis instead – what IS this endless NOISE…?

    http://www.rt.com/news/313565-jesus-married-science-history/

    “brainiacs”….?  how about just “nutz”?

  9. Mara wrote:  (52:6:6) […]  Wise statesmen will sometime work for the welfare of humanity even while they strive to promote the interest of their national or racial groups.

    .

    Regarding wisdom I always recall what Proverbs reports King Solomon said, “Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding.”

    .

    Political wisdom pertains to those men and women – statesmen – who by their own inclinations, talent and choice have aimed for and have achieved, regardless of the method, the privilege of working in arenas of decision-making of states and nations. These are people who have positions of political leadership in high places. Those who have political leadership in low places are developing their political worth in public affairs. Until I read the UB I had no idea the maximum of able leadership in a population is limited.

    .

    ( 81:6:42 )  Leadership is vital to progress. Wisdom, insight, and foresight are indispensable to the endurance of nations. Civilization is never really jeopardized until able leadership begins to vanish. And the quantity of such wise leadership has never exceeded one per cent of the population.

    (  ) . Effective and wise leadership. In civilization much, very much, depends on an enthusiastic and effective load-pulling spirit. Ten men are of little more value than one in lifting a great load unless they lift together–all at the same moment. And such teamwork–social co-operation–is dependent on leadership. The cultural civilizations of the past and the present have been based upon the intelligent co-operation of the citizenry with wise and progressive leaders; and until man evolves to higher levels, civilization will continue to be dependent on wise and vigorous leadership.

    .

    Much ado has been made by some UB readers about the reserve corps of destiny, because some readers flatter themselves to think they are members of this corps.  Such ideas amaze me.  But I often wonder whether some  individuals who rise to positions of political leadership and statesmanship in my country and other countries as well are reservist liaisons to the superhuman administration of world affairs.

    ( 114:7:1) The reserve corps of destiny consists of living men and women who have been admitted to the special service of the superhuman administration of world affairs. This corps is made up of the men and women of each generation who are chosen by the spirit directors of the realm to assist in the conduct of the ministry of mercy and wisdom to the children of time on the evolutionary worlds. It is the general practice in the conduct of the affairs of the ascension plans to begin this liaison utilization of mortal will creatures immediately they are competent and trustworthy to assume such responsibilities. Accordingly, as soon as men and women appear on the stage of temporal action with sufficient mental capacity, adequate moral status, and requisite spirituality, they are quickly assigned to the appropriate celestial group of planetary personalities as human liaisons, mortal assistants.

    .

    Do you think reservists know they are reservists?

     

    (114:7:0)   7. The Reserve Corps of Destiny

    When human beings are chosen as protectors of planetary destiny, when they become pivotal individuals in the plans which the world administrators are prosecuting, at that time the planetary chief of seraphim confirms their temporal attachment to the seraphic corps and appoints personal destiny guardians to serve with these mortal reservists. All reservists have self-conscious Adjusters, and most of them function in the higher cosmic circles of intellectual achievement and spiritual attainment.

    Mortals of the realm are chosen for service in the reserve corps of destiny on the inhabited worlds because of:

    1. Special capacity for being secretly rehearsed for numerous possible emergency missions in the conduct of various activities of world affairs.

    2. Wholehearted dedication to some special social, economic, political, spiritual, or other cause, coupled with willingness to serve without human recognition and rewards.

    3. The possession of a Thought Adjuster of extraordinary versatility and probable pre-Urantia experience in coping with planetary difficulties and contending with impending world emergency situations.

    Each division of planetary celestial service is entitled to a liaison corps of these mortals of destiny standing. The average inhabited world employs seventy separate corps of destiny, which are intimately connected with the superhuman current conduct of world affairs. On Urantia there are twelve reserve corps of destiny, one for each of the planetary groups of seraphic supervision.

    The twelve groups of Urantia destiny reservists are composed of mortal inhabitants of the sphere who have been rehearsed for numerous crucial positions on earth and are held in readiness to act in possible planetary emergencies. This combined corps now consists of 962 persons. The smallest corps numbers 41 and the largest 172. With the exception of less than a score of contact personalities, the members of this unique group are wholly unconscious of their preparation for possible function in certain planetary crises. These mortal reservists are chosen by the corps to which they are respectively attached and are likewise trained and rehearsed in the deep mind by the combined technique of Thought Adjuster and seraphic guardian ministry. Many times numerous other celestial personalities participate in this unconscious training, and in all this special preparation the midwayers perform valuable and indispensable services.

    On many worlds the better adapted secondary midway creatures are able to attain varying degrees of contact with the Thought Adjusters of certain favorably constituted mortals through the skillful penetration of the minds of the latters’ indwelling. (And it was by just such a fortuitous combination of cosmic adjustments that these revelations were materialized in the English language on Urantia.) Such potential contact mortals of the evolutionary worlds are mobilized in the numerous reserve corps, and it is, to a certain extent, through these small groups of forward-looking personalities that spiritual civilization is advanced and the Most Highs are able to rule in the kingdoms of men. The men and women of these reserve corps of destiny thus have various degrees of contact with their Adjusters through the intervening ministry of the midway creatures; but these same mortals are little known to their fellows except in those rare social emergencies and spiritual exigencies wherein these reserve personalities function for the prevention of the breakdown of evolutionary culture or the extinction of the light of living truth. On Urantia these reservists of destiny have seldom been emblazoned on the pages of human history

    The reservists unconsciously act as conservators of essential planetary information. Many times, upon the death of a reservist, a transfer of certain vital data from the mind of the dying reservist to a younger successor is made by a liaison of the two Thought Adjusters. The Adjusters undoubtedly function in many other ways unknown to us, in connection with these reserve corps.

    On Urantia the reserve corps of destiny, though having no permanent head, does have its own permanent councils which constitute its governing organization. These embrace the judiciary council, the historicity council, the council on political sovereignty, and many others. From time to time, in accordance with the corps organization, titular (mortal) heads of the whole reserve corps have been commissioned by these permanent councils for specific function. The tenure of such reservist chiefs is usually a matter of a few hours’ duration, being limited to the accomplishment of some specific task at hand.

    The Urantia reserve corps had its largest membership in the days of the Adamites and Andites, steadily declining with the dilution of the violet blood and reaching its low point around the time of Pentecost, since which time reserve corps membership has steadily increased.

    (The cosmic reserve corps of universe-conscious citizens on Urantia now numbers over one thousand mortals whose insight of cosmic citizenship far transcends the sphere of their terrestrial abode, but I am forbidden to reveal the real nature of the function of this unique group of living human beings.)

    Urantia mortals should not allow the comparative spiritual isolation of their world from certain of the local universe circuits to produce a feeling of cosmic desertion or planetary orphanage. There is operative on the planet a very definite and effective superhuman supervision of world affairs and human destinies.

    But it is true that you can have, at best, only a meager idea of an ideal planetary government. Since the early times of the Planetary Prince, Urantia has suffered from the miscarriage of the divine plan of world growth and racial development. The loyal inhabited worlds of Satania are not governed as is Urantia. Nevertheless, compared with the other isolated worlds, your planetary governments have not been so inferior; only one or two worlds may be said to be worse, and a few may be slightly better, but the majority are on a plane of equality with you.

    No one in the local universe seems to know when the unsettled status of the planetary administration will terminate. The Nebadon Melchizedeks are inclined to the opinion that little change will occur in the planetary government and administration until Michael’s second personal arrival on Urantia. Undoubtedly at this time, if not before, sweeping changes will be effected in planetary management. But as to the nature of such modifications of world administration, no one seems to be able even to conjecture. There is no precedent for such an episode in all the history of the inhabited worlds of the universe of Nebadon. Among the many things difficult to understand concerning the future government of Urantia, a prominent one is the location on the planet of a circuit and divisional headquarters of the archangels.

    Your isolated world is not forgotten in the counsels of the universe. Urantia is not a cosmic orphan stigmatized by sin and shut away from divine watchcare by rebellion. From Uversa to Salvington and on down to Jerusem, even in Havona and on Paradise, they all know we are here; and you mortals now dwelling on Urantia are just as lovingly cherished and just as faithfully watched over as if the sphere had never been betrayed by a faithless Planetary Prince, even more so. It is eternally true, “the Father himself loves you.”

    [Presented by the Chief of Seraphim stationed on Urantia.]

     

     

  10. Paper 81 – “….And the quantity of such wise leadership has never exceeded one per cent of the population….”

    Too bad it doesn’t CLEARLY state that women are included in the word “population” ;-)


    @Mara
    – Well, when you look at the mortal life of The Son of Man, and chew over the fact that that was the only epochal revelation that did not fail, and now add in TUB to put that history (Jesus) in the context of cosmic “reality”,  it stands to reason that “reservists” are being added.  It also stands to reason that it could become confusing who is and isn’t one. And even if you are a “reservist”, you might only be one for a specific mission and not a long term “wise leadership” person….

    “…..The tenure of such reservist chiefs is usually a matter of a few hours’ duration, being limited to the accomplishment of some specific task at hand….”

    What I am sure about is that there are 1%ers (Caesars) who do decide who is a threat to their kingdom and send out hit squads.  That being the case means they are definitely reading along on “religion” discussion boards to figure out who is the “reservist”. So far Caesar does not seem to be taking any of the self-proclaimed “reservists” seriously….everyone has to make a living somehow, right?

  11. Jesus offered no rules for social advancement.  The ideal of all social attainment can be realized only in the coming of the outworking of personal invisible and spiritual ideals in cooperation with one’s fellows.  Society’s most advanced achievement can never hope to transcend Jesus’ brotherhood of men based on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. (196:2:11)  While Jesus has shown the way to the immediate attainment of spiritual brotherhood, the realization of social brotherhood on our world depends much on the achievement of personal transformations and planetary adjustments, as revealed to us in the UB. (52:6:2)  Here is the fifth of the five specific areas of needed transformations and adjustments to the achievement of social brotherhood.  This is the “quickest” way to realize social brotherhood.

    (52:6:7)  5. Spiritual insight. The brotherhood of man is, after all, predicated on the recognition of the fatherhood of God. The quickest way to realize the brotherhood of man on Urantia is to effect the spiritual transformation of present-day humanity. The only technique for accelerating the natural trend of social evolution is that of applying spiritual pressure from above, thus augmenting moral insight while enhancing the soul capacity of every mortal to understand and love every other mortal. Mutual understanding and fraternal love are transcendent civilizers and mighty factors in the world-wide realization of the brotherhood of man.

     

     

     

    .

     

  12. It would also help if there was one Rule of Law – FAIRNESS is innate in human nature.

    Currently there is one set of rules for “them”, and another for the “others” here in the USA, of all places! I find that shocking.

    Anarchy parading around as “technology” is truly cosmic insanity.

    132:1.4 (1457.3) The materialistic scientist and the extreme idealist are destined always to be at loggerheads. This is not true of those scientists and idealists who are in possession of a common standard of high moral values and spiritual test levels. In every age scientists and religionists must recognize that they are on trial before the bar of human need. They must eschew all warfare between themselves while they strive valiantly to justify their continued survival by enhanced devotion to the service of human progress. If the so-called science or religion of any age is false, then must it either purify its activities or pass away before the emergence of a material science or spiritual religion of a truer and more worthy order.

    They “crashed” the economy – why are they still in charge? Because we HAVE to “forgive them”?

  13. Sabinatu wrote:  In every age scientists and religionists must recognize that they are on trial before the bar of human need. They must eschew all warfare between themselves…
    Both are motivated by high standards of fact finding……….mutual respect is a means of preventing antagonism………by being brotherly.
    If after much honest enquiry, “so-called science or religion of any age is false, then must it either purify its activities or pass away…”
    Eventually society must identify “thieves” and “villains” and apply the mechanisms of Justice whatever is deemed appropriate. In South Africa after Apartheid there was a “Reconciliation Commission” where both victim and assailant were reconciled in a non-vindictive way through forgiveness and a mutual understanding of how the acts of one adversely affected the lives of the other. Years of anger were washed away with tears of grief……….open sorrow gave way to relief.
  14. They “crashed” the economy – why are they still in charge?

    According to the book “Build Yourself Paradise”
    1 – Men in power just want to perpetuate their power.
    2 – The people just want to be ruled.
    3 – Anyone can start building paradise at any momment.

  15. They “crashed” the economy – why are they still in charge?

    According to the book “Build Yourself Paradise”
    1 – Men in power just want to perpetuate their power.
    2 – The people just want to be ruled.
    3 – Anyone can start building paradise at any momment.

    Hello Zar,

    There’s just one little detail you might have forgotten from your reading of TUB, there are no personalities living in THE Paradise – at the center of the ultimaton – haha –

    that have any SELFISHNESS left in them. So your ‘urth “paradise” is sure as heck not going to be my “paradise” here on a planet that is actually so “cosmically insane” that us residents are quarantined from all other intelligent life form personalities out there in the Milky Way.

    But go ahead and sell me your idea anyway, what could go wrong there?

  16. Sabinatu wrote:  …residents are quarantined from all other intelligent life…
    I agree with this bit Sab, the other stuff not so readily………patience is a virtue in considering things. A lot of good is going on too. Life is dynamic, turbulent and unsettling it’s true, however, I would encourage you to consider there are millions who are making spiritual progress. How about a cheer for them?
    We have been informed of the Seraphic Planetary Government and the role the United Midwayers of Urantia, who we have to thank for their part in preparation and delivery of The Urantia Book and who now are actively involved with all the seraphic hosts in work to bring this benighted world back in harmony with the designated administration of inhabited worlds. There’s a lot going on with the important work they are doing with the Reserve Corps of Destiny which we should gain comfort in being informed about. They identify problems and work to solve them, see trouble looming, and take steps to mitigate the consequences of unwise human choices, as are possible by the actions taken by pivotal mortal individuals within the group. Then of course, there is the productive contribution each of us can make.
    There is work to be done in unleashing “spiritual force” sufficient to break through the material resistance inhibiting growth.
    Even the apostles were unable fully to comprehend his teaching as to the necessity for using spiritual force for the purpose of breaking through all material resistance and for surmounting every earthly obstacle which might chance to stand in the way of grasping the all-important spiritual values of the new life in the spirit as the liberated sons of God.  [Paper 166:3.8, page 1829.5]
  17. @Vern – if all this work has been going on of spiritual uplift then I must be getting my “religion” news from only the human channels.

    Who is doing all this “raising” of God’s children? And where?

    Should have been Mom and Dad in the home, according to you…and I even agree with that…but where is the Spiritual Force to take on the UNEARNED FINANCIAL POWER of the War, Drug and Slave Lords and their NWO being established at nanosecond speed through the 24/7 channeling of their “greed is good” philosophies of Nihilism, Hedonism, and Anarchy?

    I want a divorce from the Predators. Trying that one more time – 15 years is enough patience in tadpole years…it’s just a source of glee for them that they got away with it:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/geithner-rubin-paulson-income-inequality_55e9eabde4b093be51bb73c3

  18. Sabinatu wrote:  …where is the Spiritual Force…
    Well you ask Sab.We live in a society not an economy. Economics is not science, it’s voodo practiced by the bone rattlers of wall street and pride comes before the fall. Those who place reliance on material things only are destined to be disappointed.
    The real power is spiritual, that requires living faith and going about doing good as evident fruits of the spirit. The fact it is not visibly manifest to the degree you personally would like to see, does not mean it’s not happening. As long as you do the best with what you have, and you take comfort knowing spirit is moving your fellows in accordance with their own willingness to do the Father’s will, by increments, forward toward social brotherhood, there is encouragement.
    To apply “spiritual force” you need “spiritual power.”
    I did a quick scan of references of “spiritual power” here is a selection to consider:
    “Happy are they who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be filled.” Only those who feel poor in spirit will ever hunger for righteousness. Only the humble seek for divine strength and crave spiritual power.   [Paper140:5.8, page 1574:1]
    Perhaps the proud materialist needs to be humbled before turning thoughts towards righteousness. How else can someone who already thinks they know it all, learn anything new?
    “How long will it take you to learn that you cannot time-shorten the course of established natural phenomena except when such things are in accordance with the Father’s will? nor can you do spiritual work in the absence of spiritual power.…” [Paper 158:6.4, page 1758:5]
    Just because we cannot see outward results, it does not invalidate the reality of significant spiritual gains being made.
    Always respect the personality of man. Never should a righteous cause be promoted by force; spiritual victories can be won only by spiritual power.… [Paper 159:3.2, page 1765:4]
    This passage goes on to encourage fair dealings in human relationships ever respectful of the person:
    “While emotion as a factor in human decisions cannot be wholly eliminated, it should not be directly appealed to in the teachings of those who would advance the cause of the kingdom. Make your appeals directly to the divine spirit that dwells within the minds of men. Do not appeal to fear, pity, or mere sentiment. In appealing to men, be fair; exercise self-control and exhibit due restraint; show proper respect for the personalities of your pupils.”
    There is “spiritual power” in the enthusiasm of living strengthened by human association—friendship. There is great “spiritual power” in the sense of knowing you are wholeheartedly devoted to a common cause.
    The enthusiasm for living. Isolation tends to exhaust the energy charge of the soul. Association with one’s fellows is essential to the renewal of the zest for life and is indispensable to the maintenance of the courage to fight those battles consequent upon the ascent to the higher levels of human living. Friendship enhances the joys and glorifies the triumphs of life. Loving and intimate human associations tend to rob suffering of its sorrow and hardship of much of its bitterness. The presence of a friend enhances all beauty and exalts every goodness. By intelligent symbols man is able to quicken and enlarge the appreciative capacities of his friends. One of the crowning glories of human friendship is this power and possibility of the mutual stimulation of the imagination. Great spiritual power is inherent in the consciousness of wholehearted devotion to a common cause, mutual loyalty to a cosmic Deity. [Paper160:2.8, page 1776:2]
    Then there is this statement by Jesus on his new interpretation of the the old and familiar proverb of the straight and narrow way.

    “But fear not; every one who sincerely desires to find eternal life by entrance into the kingdom of God shall certainly find such everlasting salvation. But you who refuse this salvation will some day see the prophets of the seed of Abraham sit down with the believers of the gentile nations in this glorified kingdom to partake of the bread of life and to refresh themselves with the water thereof. And they who shall thus take the kingdom in spiritual power and by the persistent assaults of living faith will come from the north and the south and from the east and the west. And, behold, many who are first will be last, and those who are last will many times be first.” [Paper 166:3.5, page 1829:2]

    The teachings of Jesus have “spiritual power” to transform the world.

    The Master made it clear that the kingdom of heaven must begin with, and be centered in, the dual concept of the truth of the fatherhood of God and the correlated fact of the brotherhood of man. The acceptance of such a teaching, Jesus declared, would liberate man from the age-long bondage of animal fear and at the same time enrich human living with the following endowments of the new life of spiritual liberty:

    1. The possession of new courage and augmented spiritual power. The gospel of the kingdom was to set man free and inspire him to dare to hope for eternal life.  [Paper 170:2.1–3, page 1859:11–12]

    Jesus clearly states, this gospel must show increasing vitality and exhibit greater depth of “spiritual power.”

    …The revelation I have made to you is a living revelation, and I desire that it shall bear appropriate fruits in each individual and in each generation in accordance with the laws of spiritual growth, increase, and adaptative development. From generation to generation this gospel must show increasing vitality and exhibit greater depth of spiritual power. It must not be permitted to become merely a sacred memory, a mere tradition about me and the times in which we now live. [Paper 178:1.15, page 1931:6]

    The instruction is to love one another.

    …“Simon, you still cling to your old ideas about the Jewish Messiah and the material kingdom. But you will receive spiritual power after the spirit has descended upon you, and you will presently go into all the world preaching this gospel of the kingdom. As the Father sent me into the world, so do I send you. And I wish that you would love and trust one another.”  [Paper 193:3.2, page 2055:2]

    The Father rules a universe of universes by the compelling power of his love.

    …The fruits of the spirit, your sincere and loving service, are the mighty social lever to uplift the races of darkness, and this Spirit of Truth will become your power-multiplying fulcrum. [Paper 178:1.6, page 1930:3]

    By ceasing to resist the Thought Adjuster—give expression to living love through loving service, The Spirit of Truth is your power-multiplying fulcrum.

  19. Who of you thinks social brotherhood is easy of accomplishment?

     

    ( 3:2:10 ) Thus it is that your detached, sectional, finite, gross, and highly materialistic viewpoint and the limitations inherent in the nature of your being constitute such a handicap that you are unable to see, comprehend, or know the wisdom and kindness of many of the divine acts which to you seem fraught with such crushing cruelty, and which seem to be characterized by such utter indifference to the comfort and welfare, to the planetary happiness and personal prosperity, of your fellow creatures. It is because of the limits of human vision, it is because of your circumscribed understanding and finite comprehension, that you misunderstand the motives, and pervert the purposes, of God. But many things occur on the evolutionary worlds which are not the personal doings of the Universal Father.

    .

    How does an individual advance in spirit status? By decisions, decisions and more decisions.

    .

    ( 39:4:14) The keys of the kingdom of heaven are: sincerity, more sincerity, and more sincerity. All men have these keys. Men use them–advance in spirit status–by decisions, by more decisions, and by more decisions. The highest moral choice is the choice of the highest possible value, and always–in any sphere, in all of them–this is to choose to do the will of God. If man thus chooses,  he is great, though he be the humblest citizen of Jerusem or even the least of mortals on Urantia.

    .

    ( 110:6:6 ) Every decision you make either impedes or facilitates the function of the Adjuster; likewise do these very decisions determine your advancement in the circles of human achievement. It is true that the supremacy of a decision, its crisis relationship, has a great deal to do with its circle-making influence; nevertheless, numbers of decisions, frequent repetitions, persistent repetitions, are also essential to the habit-forming certainty of such reactions.

    .

    (110:2:1) When Thought Adjusters indwell human minds, they bring with them the model careers, the ideal lives, as determined and foreordained by themselves and the Personalized Adjusters of Divinington, which have been certified by the Personalized Adjuster of Urantia. Thus they begin work with a definite and predetermined plan for the intellectual and spiritual development of their human subjects, but it is not incumbent upon any human being to accept this plan. You are all subjects of predestination, but it is not foreordained that you must accept this divine predestination; you are at full liberty to reject any part or all of the Thought Adjusters’ program. It is their mission to effect such mind changes and to make such spiritual adjustments as you may willingly and intelligently authorize, to the end that they may gain more influence over the personality directionization; but under no circumstances do these divine Monitors ever take advantage of you or in any way arbitrarily influence you in your choices and decisions. The Adjusters respect your sovereignty of personality; they are always subservient to your will.

    ..

    We are to make progress toward our Father’s ideals.

    (147:5:7) “My children, if there exists a true and living connection between the child and the Father, the child is certain to progress continuously toward the Father’s ideals. True, the child may at first make slow progress, but the progress is none the less sure. The important thing is not the rapidity of your progress but rather its certainty. Your actual achievement is not so important as the fact that the direction of your progress is Godward. What you are becoming day by day is of infinitely more importance than what you are today.”

     

  20. I am not Jesus, will never be Jesus, won’t ever be again the Jesus follower iniquitors can hide behind as if they are followers with me

    all that matters is that his PERFECT HUMAN LIFE still serves as an inspiration in the new context of REALITY that is the FER (Part I, II, III and IV)

    And I am getting that divorce on THIS planet from the Predators.  Just watch me.

Reply on the current forum

↑ Back to top