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Signification / value …. part 2

24 posts · 7 participants · started Sep 19, 2015, 7:49 PM

  1. Dear brethrens,

    … as i mentioned earlier, it is in our hands to figure out “How to stimulate unity among us ?”
    so ……

    I invite each member of the Family to post here quote of a sister or brother that is inspiring.

    • It maybe a way lovely done to dismantle a emotional,negative,offensive comment
      or just a comment who trigger/stirring strings uplifting our soul to tune in with the service of our Father and service among us.

    With participation of ours moderators who’ll emphasis such a behavior.
    Now, September in north America …. a time to plant and a time to harvest.
    Show us fruits you find among The Supreme’s garden.

    p.s   we have tons of comments in historical archives

  2. . . . a comment who trigger/stirring strings uplifting our soul to tune with the service of our Father and service among us

     

    Thank you andre!

    ( 149:4:2 ) “Let your hearts be so dominated by love . . . .”

  3. “…Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom….” (1725:4) 155:1.3           Rick Warren     #17413

    Dear Rick,

    Splendid Rick, you share a UB quote that said it all. Yours dedication, disseminating UB quotes,historic events view through urantia papers, OPAD’s opportunity.

    Busy doing God’s will and keeping a eye  on your brotherhood.

    Thanks

  4. “…Why do the heathen rage? Because they know not the truth. Why do you languish in futile yearning? Because you obey not the truth. Cease your useless yearning and go forth bravely doing that which concerns the establishment of the kingdom….” (1725:4) 155:1.3 Rick Warren #17413

    Dear Rick, Splendid Rick, you share a UB quote that said it all. Yours dedication, disseminating UB quotes,historic events view through urantia papers, OPAD’s opportunity. Busy doing God’s will and keeping a eye on your brotherhood. Thanks

    You are most welcome, Andre. Very glad you found your way to this Forum.

    As a philosopher it was so good to discover thru our new revelation that the only thing of real value are values.

    And as the gardeners say: Let us grow! :good:

    Richard E Warren

  5. I am surfing old archives from 2011.

    http://urantia.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/1156-paper-75-the-default-of-adam-and-eve/   #13

    Bonita wrote:
    Anyway, that would probably be the end of my political career in heaven.

    How sweet it is said.

    Well, sometimes the truth is harsh. … But what Solonia said is a double whammy because she is also implying that women have a tendency to be immature. Ouch !!!

    When TUB talk about facts such as …  eugenics, character traits or racial traits. Witnessed such a inspiring and heartening teachable reaction.

    I suppose through the govern of  Spiritual Ministry, we assimilate,incorporate …“The power of the Lord is great and his understanding infinite. Says the Lord: ‘As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.’

    p.s. Rick what a wonderful works done there on paper 75    Thanks

     

  6. Fraternal regards, Andre!  This link should go directly to Bonita’s post (#11)

    http://urantia.invisionzone.com/index.php?/topic/1156-paper-75-the-default-of-adam-and-eve/?p=19523

     

    Richard E Warren

  7. Bradly wrote:
    “My family has farmed, small dirt farmin’, scratchin’ every year to not starve or lose the farm” … #16798

    What a inspiring experiential resume. Submit under uncertainties of life and the vicissitudes of existence 3:5.5 … resulting a serene and confident faith proven.
    ” In all concepts of selfhood it should be recognized that the fact of life comes first, its evaluation or interpretation later. The human child first lives and subsequently thinks about his living”.112:2.6

  8. Greetings Andre!!  Yes, I have lived a life of confident uncertainty in my faith in Father and His power, purpose, and plan for His children.  We are taught in the Papers that we will learn to feast on this uncertainty and fatten upon our disappointments – one secret for the contented life here amidst so much of both.  Jesus said:  Fear Not!  And to worry not for sufficient unto this day is the trouble therein (or something like that).

    Here’s an interesting quote from Bonita on the topic posted here under “Fear”, from post #9743:

    “Related to uncertainty is doubt. Doubt is another form of fear, more subtle but potentially just as debilitating when it comes to spiritual growth. As we mature spiritually, we have fewer and fewer doubts as to the reality of God and to his goodness. I think that the easiest way to dispel doubt, uncertainty, fear and anxiety is to partner up with Spirit presence. It is good to have companionship on the journey.”

    “. . . and whosoever has been born of the spirit has in himself the power to overcome all doubt, and this is the victory that overcomes all uncertainty, even your faith.” p1601:3

    :good:

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  9. G’day all,

    I invite each member of the Family to post here quote of a sister or brother that is inspiring. André . post 17416

    Why was Caligastia left here?

    http://truthbook.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=3815&start=60∗∗

    √     “Sin is the very definition of suicide. It is a self induced intoxication… He twisted his own connection to reality but aligning himself with unreality. It is possible that at this point he is unable to form any cohesive thoughts pertaining to reality.”  boomshuka . post 2441 ∗∗

    √     “No matter what happens or how bad it appears, there is ALWAYS a positive POTENTIAL inherently attached and available for those who can see beyond the wrong or bad to the opportunity for improvement.”   •  “Obstacles, unintended consequences, accidents of time and space, the evil or sin of others…all, plague us daily and interfere with that which we prefer. And yet, it is within this slip-stream of the unexpected that opportunities lurk, always around waiting for the discerning and creative and spirit led mind to find the gems of values and meanings and potential and results available therein. Temporally, change is the ONLY thing that is changeless….expect the unexpected for it’s about to land in your lap and cross your path, again and again endlessly developing our skill at making lemonade!! Critical thinking and problem solving when combined with a spiritizing mind and proper intent brings progress from chaos and a strength of character not available by any other means does it not? ”  fanofVan . post 1834∗∗

    Stir dat sugar Bro!   alwilliams767

    ….still stirring ???

    André

     

  10. Presented by a Divine Counselor of Uversa:
    4:4:9  The consciousness of a victorious human life on earth is born of that creature faith which dares to challenge each recurring episode of existence when confronted with the awful spectacle of human limitations, by the unfailing declaration: Even if I cannot do this, there lives in me one who can and will do it, a part of the Father-Absolute of the universe of universes. And that is “the victory which overcomes the world, even your faith.”
  11. ….still stirring ??? André

    Just adding time……and hoping for the sugar!  I’ve still got plenty of lemons to add for the lemonade makers above!

    = )  Bradly aka fanofVan

    Thanks for asking Brother.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  12. Appel à tous,

    A while ago an acquaintance talking about a “guru” quote something he said as “we are God”.

    This guru make astonishing things.

    As TUB quoted:

    1:5.16 His prepersonal divine spirit is a real part of you.

    Right now, in my perception of realities… I disagree. About what the guru said.

    Is not the first time I encounter such belief.

    If you tell me, I’m part of Divine family, you have my consent otherwise as above no. I feel presomptuous to affirm such a thing.

    but …..

    Coul you help me, figure it out ?

    Thanks

    André

     

     

  13. Dear André — if you look past the fluff and commotion that a normal human seems to be, then you’ll see a point of personality fertilizing a fragment of the I AM. Pretty awesome, no?

    Nigel

  14. Coul you help me, figure it out ?

    No, we are not God, we are made in his image.  But we are in the process of becoming more God-like.  We are on an divinity-seeking adventure with God as our pilot.  As the personality becomes more divine, it becomes more God-like, to the point where a fragment of God can’t help himself but fuse with it.  Even then we are not God, but fused with God, becoming something new . . . part of the Supreme God of experience.

  15. Thanks Bonita for filling in some details.

    André, I think the problem you point to is that, given the amazing nature of our essential internal parts {Personality, Adjuster, Soul}, for those not aware of the context, a touch or taste or glimpse of these true parts of our true selves can trigger that range of “strange ism” we are warned about in paper 110 section 4 ( 1207.5, 110:4.5 ).  Think how Siddhartha Gautama’s faint glimpse gave rise to an entire system of faith, based on a misunderstanding of his experience; or the many cases where simple misunderstanding becomes disastrous delusion.

    So yes, when a guru says something odd, it pays to look closely, discriminate wisely, and maybe just move on?

    Nigel

  16. Nigel,

    At first, your reply astonish my understanding.

    By using verb “fertilizing” are you reffering the fact our personality will be share with T/A ?

    In case of …  Capacity for divine personality is inherent in the prepersonal Adjuster. 5:6.6

    The only donation out of personality to God is a dedication to do his will. 112:0.2

    Unless you share a quote from UB about “fertilization” is a dead end.

    Thanks you for you concern Nigel.

    André

     

  17. Andre, my guess is that Nigel’s reference to fertilization has more to do with cross-pollination, which loosely correlates to co-creation. Or it could be a reference to the fertile soil of the moral conscious which the Adjuster uses to spiritualize the personality.  I agree, it’s not the best word to describe the process, in fact, I think it’s really the other way around.  We’re the ones being fertilized by God.  He is always digging about our roots and cutting away our dead branches with the purpose of increasing fruit production.

     

  18. Dear Bonita,

    Maybe this quote does.

    110:7. Subsequent to mortal fusion the Adjusters share your destiny and experience; they are you. After the fusion of the immortal morontia soul and the associated Adjuster, all of the experience and all of the values of the one eventually become the possession of the other, so that the two are actually one entity.

    Thanks for the involvement.

    André

  19. Hi everyone,

    Intriguing question.

    Revealators concerning definition of T/A concluded

    107:1.2. … as far as we are able to discern, they are God.

    Fusioning with our soul, did God lose attributes ?

    André

  20. Hi everyone, Intriguing question. Revealators concerning definition of T/A concluded 107:1.2. … as far as we are able to discern, they are God. Fusioning with our soul, did God lose attributes ? André

    I don’t think God ever loses attributes or capacity….just the opposite perhaps?  We are taught that every personal embrace and expression of truth, beauty, and goodness feeds the soul of the ascending mortal and adds to the experiential wisdom of every other mind in time and space, all of which goes to God the Supreme as an addition or contribution TO God….the gift of free will love and loyalty to its very Source and Center.  Further, we are taught, does the realization and actualization of TB&G increase the potential for evermore future realization and actualization.

    107:0.2 (1176.2) The Adjusters are the actuality of the Father’s love incarnate in the souls of men; they are the veritable promise of man’s eternal career imprisoned within the mortal mind; they are the essence of man’s perfected finaliter personality, which he can foretaste in time as he progressively masters the divine technique of achieving the living of the Father’s will, step by step, through the ascension of universe upon universe until he actually attains the divine presence of his Paradise Father.

    27:7.8 (305.1) After the attainment of the supreme satisfaction of the fullness of worship, you are qualified for admission to the Corps of the Finality. The ascendant career is well-nigh finished, and the seventh jubilee prepares for celebration. The first jubilee marked the mortal agreement with the Thought Adjuster when the purpose to survive was sealed; the second was the awakening in the morontia life; the third was the fusion with the Thought Adjuster; the fourth was the awakening in Havona; the fifth celebrated the finding of the Universal Father; and the sixth jubilee was the occasion of the Paradise awakening from the final transit slumber of time. The seventh jubilee marks entrance into the mortal finaliter corps and the beginning of the eternity service. The attainment of the seventh stage of spirit realization by a finaliter will probably signalize the celebration of the first of the jubilees of eternity.

    110:6.22 (1212.1) The great days in the individual careers of Adjusters are: first, when the human subject breaks through into the third psychic circle, thus insuring the Monitor’s self-activity and increased range of function (provided the indweller was not already self-acting); then, when the human partner attains the first psychic circle, and they are thereby enabled to intercommunicate, at least to some degree; and last, when they are finally and eternally fused.

    110:7.5 (1212.6) When the evolving soul and the divine Adjuster are finally and eternally fused, each gains all of the experiencible qualities of the other. This co-ordinate personality possesses all of the experiential memory of survival once held by the ancestral mortal mind and then resident in the morontia soul, and in addition thereto this potential finaliter embraces all the experiential memory of the Adjuster throughout the mortal indwellings of all time. But it will require an eternity of the future for an Adjuster ever completely to endow the personality partnership with the meanings and values which the divine Monitor carries forward from the eternity of the past.

    Me:  God’s Fragments, like love itself, has an ever expanding capacity and potential I think…it’s not a zero-sum equation….there’s always more of God and his attributes as potential is realized and new potential becomes unleashed.

    As to Nigel’s fertilizing post….if fertilization is the addition of nutrients to a growing life, then is such fertilization working in both directions – from the lesser does its growth add nutrients to the greater (think Supreme + local repercussions) and naturally from the greater comes all the gravity circuits and mind ministries of the Holy Spirit, the Son’s Spirit, and the God Fragments – as well as the attending Seraphim.  I’d have to agree that there’s lots of ‘fertilization’ going on!

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

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