Gene wrote: its the idea that quality in this loving experience is unlimited. What are they trying to get across to us by that.
Well, I can only tell you how I understand it. Don’t really want to talk for a celestial . . . not qualified to do that. The keyword is obviously quality. The quality of the Father’s love is individualized for each one of us in such a way that we are given the full monty, love replete and specialized for our particular personality. This is accomplished by the presence of the indwelling Adjuster. The quality of his individualized love is unexcelled; there is no other standard to measure it by and it cannot be diminished. Each of us has this, but the quantity, or the degree to which we experience this love, is limited by our ability to give the same degree of love back in the form of doing God’s will. So, quantity goes up with consecration of will, but it’s the same quality of love experienced. Quality is like infinity, it’s unmeasurable; the only thing that is measurable and that can change is quantity, and we are responsible for making that change within the relationship. God is constant; we change. Does that make any sense?
Gene wrote: What can we relate to that is truely unlimited, how do we relate to it, is it more than our emotions?
Again, you have to qualify your statement in regards to emotions. There are material feelings and emotions, and there are divine feelings and emotions. Material feelings and emotions arise within the material mind; divine feelings and emotions arise within the soul. Divine emotions and feeling can only be accessed by spiritual insight. Spiritual insight is defined as God-consciousness, a feeling of presence.
[Incidentally, other descriptions/definitions of spiritual insight in TUB are: “mind of the spirit”, moral evaluation with a religious meaning, the recognition of moral values and the discernment of spiritual meanings, to see God by faith, that faculty of human personality which accrues as a consequence of the presence of the God-revealing Thought Adjuster in the God-hungry mortal mind, a gift.]
Material feelings and emotions lead to selfish material acts; divine feelings and emotions lead to religious acts of unselfish service.
p1121:5 102:3.3 Material feelings, human emotions, lead directly to material actions, selfish acts. Religious insights, spiritual motivations, lead directly to religious actions, unselfish acts of social service and altruistic benevolence.
Gene wrote: Aren’t they talking about loving the Father directly, not necessarily Involving our Adjuster, the unlimited quality of this personal experience?
No! That can’t happen. It’s not possible until we get to Paradise. All worship (which is the way we love the Father) is done for us by our Adjusters. The material mind gives consent to the soul who craves it, then the Adjuster actually does it over the personality circuit.
5:3.7-8 Sincere worship connotes the mobilization of all the powers of the human personality under the dominance of the evolving soul and subject to the divine directionization of the associated Thought Adjuster. The mind of material limitations can never become highly conscious of the real significance of true worship. Man’s realization of the reality of the worship experience is chiefly determined by the developmental status of his evolving immortal soul. The spiritual growth of the soul takes place wholly independently of the intellectual self-consciousness.
The worship experience consists in the sublime attempt of the betrothed Adjuster to communicate to the divine Father the inexpressible longings and the unutterable aspirations of the human soul–the conjoint creation of the God-seeking mortal mind and the God-revealing immortal Adjuster. Worship is, therefore, the act of the material mind’s assenting to the attempt of its spiritualizing self, under the guidance of the associated spirit, to communicate with God as a faith son of the Universal Father. The mortal mind consents to worship; the immortal soul craves and initiates worship; the divine Adjuster presence conducts such worship in behalf of the mortal mind and the evolving immortal soul. True worship, in the last analysis, becomes an experience realized on four cosmic levels: the intellectual, the morontial, the spiritual, and the personal–the consciousness of mind, soul, and spirit, and their unification in personality
5:3.2 But worship is undoubtedly encircuited and dispatched to the person of the Creator by the function of the Father’s personality circuit. We further believe that such registry of the homage of an Adjuster-indwelt creature is facilitated by the Father’s spirit presence. There exists a tremendous amount of evidence to substantiate such a belief, and I know that all orders of Father fragments are empowered to register the bona fide adoration of their subjects acceptably in the presence of the Universal Father.
