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Intellectual crystallization of religious concepts.

87 posts · 7 participants · started Jun 16, 2017, 1:59 PM

  1. 102:2.7 (1120.4) Evolutionary man does not naturally relish hard work. To keep pace in his life experience with the impelling demands and the compelling urges of a growing religious experience means incessant activity in spiritual growth, intellectual expansion, factual enlargement, and social service. There is no real religion apart from a highly active personality. Therefore do the more indolent of men often seek to escape the rigors of truly religious activities by a species of ingenious self-deception through resorting to a retreat to the false shelter of stereotyped religious doctrines and dogmas. But true religion is alive. Intellectual crystallization of religious concepts is the equivalent of spiritual death. You cannot conceive of religion without ideas, but when religion once becomes reduced only to an idea, it is no longer religion; it has become merely a species of human philosophy.

    After studying the Urantia Papers thoroughly for many years, is it possible, and at what point and why, might the “religious concepts” of the revelation become intellectually crystallized?

     

  2. The two key phrases of that quote in response to your question are these:  “true religion is alive” and “once becomes reduced only to an idea, it is no longer religion”.

    As long as TUB readers, regardless of how many years they have studied the Papers, puts the concepts into *living* practice in their day to day life, they are practicing “true religion”.  If one reads the Papers, one time or one hundred times, but does not allow the concepts to alter their approach to daily living or their striving to follow the leadings of their Thought Adjuster and become more Godlike, that is likely to lead to ‘intellectual crystallization of religious concepts’.

    This quote says it better than I can:

    110:6.17 (1211.2) The motivation of faith makes experiential the full realization of man’s sonship with God, but action, completion of decisions, is essential to the evolutionary attainment of consciousness of progressive kinship with the cosmic actuality of the Supreme Being. Faith transmutes potentials to actuals in the spiritual world, but potentials become actuals in the finite realms of the Supreme only by and through the realization of choice-experience. But choosing to do the will of God joins spiritual faith to material decisions in personality action and thus supplies a divine and spiritual fulcrum for the more effective functioning of the human and material leverage of God-hunger. Such a wise co-ordination of material and spiritual forces greatly augments both cosmic realization of the Supreme and morontia comprehension of the Paradise Deities.

  3. Well said Keryn!!

    Like you, I find the answer to Enno’s question within the text he posted:  “To keep pace in his life experience with the impelling demands and the compelling urges of a growing religious experience means incessant activity in spiritual growth, intellectual expansion, factual enlargement, and social service. There is no real religion apart from a highly active personality.”

     

    Concepts which do not affect/impact/determine/drive/deliver behavior are static, dead, and crystalized.  Religious living is a reaction, response, and reflection which requires expression through our primary motives in life, our intentions at every intersection of choice, our priorities of living, and our responses to every circumstance and situation faced in our life.  Once this Way of Living and Destiny Perspective is engaged, then the adventure is one of fine tuning and gaining wisdom by the experience of making better and better choices over time.  Better and better means with more insight and purpose and love….all 3 of which are progressive for the one who is attentive and focused on how best to serve….God, family, community, and the Kingdom.

    I think “intellectually crystalized” might mean different things:  the ceremonial rote and repetitive creedal dogmas which deliver no great meaning or value or life adjustment in response to those; the prejudiced mind which believes it knows everything it needs to or desires which prevents growth and progressive understanding, wisdom, and truth in our expression of faith; and any substitution of knowledge and belief for faith….. which requires its expression in action.

    102:2.3 (1119.8) It is difficult to identify and analyze the factors of a religious experience, but it is not difficult to observe that such religious practitioners live and carry on as if already in the presence of the Eternal. Believers react to this temporal life as if immortality already were within their grasp. In the lives of such mortals there is a valid originality and a spontaneity of expression that forever segregate them from those of their fellows who have imbibed only the wisdom of the world. Religionists seem to live in effective emancipation from harrying haste and the painful stress of the vicissitudes inherent in the temporal currents of time; they exhibit a stabilization of personality and a tranquillity of character not explained by the laws of physiology, psychology, and sociology.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  4. Highly active personality minus Mota = ??

    a human who struggles against a belligerent self??

    an energy deficit of a type we can only imagine??

    Will, that requires a kick in the rear??

    challenging situations??

    faith – Agondonter style??

    able to leap tall buildings in a single bound??

     

  5. After studying the Urantia Papers thoroughly for many years, is it possible, and at what point and why, might the “religious concepts” of the revelation become intellectually crystallized?

    What do you mean by become intellectually crystallized?

  6. Is it possible (as students of the Urantia Papers) to turn the liberty of true religious living into “a species of ingenious self-deception through resorting to a retreat to the false shelter of stereotyped religious doctrines and dogmas?”

    The intellectual crystallization of “stereotyped religious doctrines and dogmas” of the Urantia Book that is.

     

  7. “Intellectual crystallization”, can also be associated to psychology, where it has been used in the UB about 7 times.  It would be interesting to see how it is referenced in “psychology” as related to “intellect”.

    Fluid and crystallized intelligence

    In psychology, fluid and crystallized intelligence (respectively abbreviated Gf and Gc) are factors of general intelligence, originally identified by Raymond Cattell. Concepts of fluid and crystallized intelligence were further developed by Cattell’s student, John L. Horn.

    Fluid intelligence or fluid reasoning is the capacity to reason and solve novel problems, independent of any knowledge from the past. It is the ability to analyze novel problems, identify patterns and relationships that underpin these problems and the extrapolation of these using logic. It is necessary for all logical problem solving, e.g., in scientific, mathematical, and technical problem solving. Fluid reasoning includes inductive reasoning and deductive reasoning.

    Crystallized intelligence is the ability to use skills, knowledge, and experience. It does not equate to memory, but it does rely on accessing information from long-term memory. Crystallized intelligence is one’s lifetime of intellectual achievement, as demonstrated largely through one’s vocabulary and general knowledge. This improves somewhat with age, as experiences tend to expand one’s knowledge.

    The terms are somewhat misleading because one is not a “crystallized” form of the other. Rather, they are believed to be separate neural and mental systems. Crystallized intelligence is indicated by a person’s depth and breadth of general knowledge, vocabulary, and the ability to reason using words and numbers. It is the product of educational and cultural experience in interaction with fluid intelligence.

    Fluid and crystallized intelligence are thus correlated with each other, and most IQ tests attempt to measure both varieties. For example, the Wechsler Adult Intelligence Scale (WAIS) measures fluid intelligence on the performance scale and crystallized intelligence on the verbal scale. The overall IQ score is based on a combination of these two scales.

     

  8. The intellectual crystallization of “stereotyped religious doctrines and dogmas” of the Urantia Book that is.

    Would you mind illustrating what you mean by “stereotyped religious doctrines and dogmas” of the Urantia Book?

  9. So….I’m a little confused. There’s a belief set agreed upon by students of the UB? Or even those who have come to believe its claims for itself? I know the Foundation, Fellowship, and Association offer no such list or set – creed or doctrine.

    It’s my understanding that the UB is the antithesis of those. I thought the Papers teach a personal and unique experience and expression of our life with God? I thought the TA, angels, and Spirit of Truth personalized an actual experience of growing in truth and wisdom? I thought the only measure for one’s success in such an experience were the fruits of the Spirit…not any intellectualized assent and agreement to creeds, doctrines, beliefs, behaviors, ceremonies, rites, etc.?

    Are you asking if the facts of universe reality presented are dogma, creed, or religion? They’re not. Those are given to provide the pilgrims of time with orientation of our place and destiny within the universe reality to relieve confusion and error in perspective. The actual religious experience must be lived….individually and quite uniquely personal…between ourselves and God.

    The Papers have much to say on “dogma or dogmas” and creeds and doctrines. Not anything good either.

    Another false premise IMO which may only lead to false conclusions and assertions in its defense as a proposition. So, pray tell what are the creeds, doctrines, and dogmas presented in the UB?  If we’re living the teachings then nothing becomes crystalized….and if you’re not living and growing and bearing fruit, then it hardly matters what your doctrines and creeds might be.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  10. I think it’s pretty clear that at least one author of TUB has every intention of helping us crystallize our thoughts. But this type of crystallization, as  points out, is not a process of turning thoughts into concrete, which is what happens when they become dogmatized.

    32:5.6 Nevertheless, I have done my best to portray something of our viewpoint, to tell you somewhat of our understanding of things eternal. I am endeavoring to aid you in the crystallization of your thoughts about these values which are of infinite nature and eternal import.

    To dogmatize, according to the dictionary, means to represent something as incontrovertible truth.  Incontrovertible means that dogmatized truth cannot be disputed.  It is therefore sanctified, and all morality must align itself accordingly.  This is how wars start, and our world is at war. This type of thinking is the bane of our current civilization, and it is evidenced on all levels of reality; scientific, philosophic (political) and religious.  So many believe they are privy to incontrovertible truth about one thing or another and that’s total rubbish.  Any reader of TUB who has crystallized only a fraction of what is written, would recognize the absurdity of this type of thinking, not to mention the evil it represents.

     

     

     

     

  11. might the “religious concepts” of the revelation become intellectually crystallized?

    “Evolutionary man does not naturally relish hard work,” and it is easier to “retreat to the false shelter of stereotyped religious doctrines and dogmas.” In the short term, it appears likely that the religious concepts in this revelation will become philosophically refined, hardening over time into increasingly precise definitions, until there are various sets of doctrinal beliefs around which numerous religious sects will form. This slightly pessimistic outlook for the near term seems justified by the fact that intellectual crystallization has already occurred in the Urantia movement. There are deep doctrinal differences over how the revelation should be disseminated, and these sincerely held beliefs have led to a sectarian fracturing of our movement. While it is a very good thing that the organizations are now trying to minimize their differences, both UAI and the Fellowship have their origins in fundamentally different approaches to dissemination. There is still a great divide between the two, and both see themselves as the sole legitimate successor of the former Urantia Brotherhood.

    Like some others on this forum, I remember a time when we were organizationally unified, before this bitter breakup. Many regrettable things were said and done on all sides, some of which have yet to be forgiven and forgotten. While everyone in the movement still appreciates the supreme spiritual value of this epochal revelation for both the individual and world civilization, we hold on to our different ideas about how to disseminate it. We are unified in our humble adoration of the spiritual values and truths in the Book, yet we persist in believing in the unassailable righteousness of our intellectual ideas about its dissemination. Why do we elevate these ideas to the level of moral imperatives, so that any further discussion is precluded and any possibility of compromise is prevented?

    What has occurred with the idea of dissemination is likely to occur with other religious concepts, it seems to me, unless we are willing to accommodate some variation in the religious ideas and beliefs of others. The Fatherhood of God is personally discovered by each child of the Father, but the brotherhood of the children of God cannot be realized in isolation, apart from the socialization of religion. And socialization requires some measure of compromise by every idealist who would join with others to fulfill the common purposes of a religious group.

    Always does the socialized religion of a new revelation pay the price of compromise with the established forms and usages of the preceding religion which it seeks to salvage. Baptism was the price which the followers of Jesus paid in order to carry with them, as a socialized religious group, the followers of John the Baptist. John’s followers, in joining Jesus’ followers, gave up just about everything except water baptism. (144:7.1)

    The socialization of revealed religion always requires some compromise with evolutionary religion. The above compromise was unanimously agreed to by the followers of Jesus and John after a great deal of very hard work undertaken with the utmost sincerity.

    These twenty-four men had a truly remarkable experience these two weeks when they were compelled to face problems and compose difficulties without Jesus. They learned to differ, to debate, to contend, to pray, and to compromise, and throughout it all to remain sympathetic with the other person’s viewpoint and to maintain at least some degree of tolerance for his honest opinions. (144:6.11)

    It is possible for ardent idealists with the same spiritual motives to compose their personal differences and work together with unity of purpose. These twenty-four men show us how we might overcome the rather embarrassing situation in which the Urantia movement now finds itself: How are we to preach the brotherhood of man, when we cannot even realize it within our own ranks?

    Christianity is seriously confronted with the doom embodied in one of its own slogans: “A house divided against itself cannot stand.” The non-Christian world will hardly capitulate to a sect-divided Christendom. (195:10.11)

    What is true for Christianity is equally true for this new revelation of religion. An honest self-appraisal might lead to the unpleasant conclusion that we, as a group, are like the blind leading the blind. We speak eloquently and with one voice, as it were, of the glories of spiritual brotherhood under the Fatherhood of God, but we, as a social group, have failed to realize this profound truth in our relations with our fellow believers: we know not whereof we speak. Who is not inspired by the spiritual idealism of Don Quixote, an idealism so overwhelming that it absolutely refuses to compromise with any inconvenient facts the world might throw at it? But the followers of Jesus were not so blinded by spiritual truth that they failed to recognize the truth of facts. They willingly undertook the hard work required to reach that place where they could “pay the price of compromise” required for reconciliation with their fellow believers.

    In friendship,

    George

  12. Oh . . . . no, no, no . . . I can’t believe I just read that!  Maybe I’m over reacting. Wait a couple of minutes, I’m going to go walk around the room a few times and then bang my head on the wall once or twice. Can’t believe what I just read . . .  mutter, mutter, mutter . . . maybe I’m not understanding it properly.  I’ll be back when I’m calmer.  Meanwhile . . . what the heck are you talking about George???  What on God’s green earth is wrong with more than one social group?????

  13. what the heck are you talking about George???

    That’s quite the reaction, much stronger than I anticipated to the simple idea of people joining together to foster and promote the revelation. What is it, exactly, that you find so objectionable?

    George

  14. Well . . .  I probably shouldn’t respond until I’ve walked around the house some more and banged my head on the wall a few extra times, but here goes . . .

    Did Jesus have only one social group disseminating the gospel while he walked the earth?  Was there only one social group after Jesus ascended?  How many sects, or social groups with differing interpretations of the gospel were there from the very gitgo?  Well . . . more than one, that’s for sure.  What’s wrong with more than one social group?  I think it is part of the grand plan. Gasp!

    Personally, I think it’s better to have more than one social group, sect, party or whatever you want to call them. I think it’s both good and wise to have several different approaches, not only to dissemination, but to the Revelation as a whole.  There are many different types of people in this world and some are drawn to one interpretation of the kingdom more than another, not unlike Abner, James and Paul who formed three different social groups and approaches to the gospel according to their interpretation.

    Actually, I think there should be as many groups as people need . . . hence the call for study groups, maybe, yah think?   It’s only when one group starts to lord it over the others that problems begin. And that seems to me that’s exactly what you’re doing here, trying to claim a superior view and scorning those who don’t share it.  That’s just my impression though . . . may need a little more head banging to see your point of view.

    As I see it, the danger of having one single party is that it can quickly claim to be the One and Only True Party. And that’s rubbish!!  In fact, learning to work together with differing ideas, not only about dissemination, but interpretation of the Revelation, is healthy.  Unity only deteriorates when one party attempts to rule over the other, claims superiority or spreads rumors that the “other party” is preventing progress . . . and if only we could get rid of that “other party” or convert that “other party” we’d all be happy, clappy and snappy.  More rubbish.

    And that brings to mind another question. Just what sort of movement are you talking about George?  Are you talking about a conversion movement? a teaching movement?  a ministerial movement?  What exactly are you attempting to do with your movement?  What’s the purpose?  Ahhh . . . . now if there is only ONE movement, with only ONE purpose, it better be a really, really good ONE that satisfies every single soul, otherwise you’re going to have people forming breakaway splinter sects in order to meet their needs.

    Just what is the purpose of socializing religion, of forming social religious groups?

    99:6.2 There is a real purpose in the socialization of religion. It is the purpose of group religious activities to dramatize the loyalties of religion; to magnify the lures of truth, beauty, and goodness; to foster the attractions of supreme values; to enhance the service of unselfish fellowship; to glorify the potentials of family life; to promote religious education; to provide wise counsel and spiritual guidance; and to encourage group worship. And all live religions encourage human friendship, conserve morality, promote neighborhood welfare, and facilitate the spread of the essential gospel of their respective messages of eternal salvation.

    Do you think ONE group can do all that and satisfy every single creature on this planet?  If you do, then I have a bridge I’d like to sell you.  Okay, said enough.  Going back to letting off steam.  Think I’ll clean a few bathrooms . . .  mop some floors . . . scream at the TV . . . is it time for a glass of wine yet?

  15. Yes Bonita…had exactly the same thought…the patterns of organization, service, infrastructure, and dissemination in Part IV is that of a united ministry by diverse groups of people of particular skills and priorities.

    As to “objectionable”, I would add my objection to the presentation of personal opinion and subjective experience/perspective as though it were a factual recital of objective historical record…it is certainly not that!  I respect George’s opinion and view and he’s certainly entitled to it and his experience is his own.  But my memory does not hold the same recollections at all.

    Another objection would be the inference that dissemination of the FER has failed or falters today.  I also do not understand any peculiar or significant differences in the priorities or methods of “dissemination” between the Association and Fellowship.  There are or may be some distinctions and unique projects to be sure.  But what’s so profoundly different in your opinion?  And what’s the “great divide”?   You mean the narrowing and rising fissure that is already bridged by many and by much?  Seems to  be plenty of exaggeration amongst your opinions George.

    Dissemination is in the wind now as well as with the Foundation, Fellowship, Association, UBIS, UU….and so many other organizations of dedicated disseminators…..there will only be more…..and more…..and many more.

    And finally, and personally, I find your “blind leading the blind” accusation insulting….and not just to me but to thousands of faithful servants of dissemination now and over time.  Your low opinion of others was also stated as a fact….unfortunate.  But nice to know your opinion.

    :-(

     

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  16. But the followers of Jesus were not so blinded by spiritual truth that they failed to recognize the truth of facts. They willingly undertook the hard work required to reach that place where they could “pay the price of compromise” required for reconciliation with their fellow believers.

    That’s hogwash!  I think it’s time for a history lesson.   There was no compromise.  Why did Abner’s group hunker down and avoid both Paul and James’ group? Why did he call Paul a, “clever corrupter of the life teachings of Jesus”?   Why did Paul’s group have such a fight over Torah with James’  Jerusalem group, then breakaway from them altogether?  Why didn’t they all just get along?  Well . . . they didn’t.  They fought among themselves quite a bit.  Nathaniel got so disgusted he left them all and went out on his own to India.  They were NOT all happy, clappy and snappy as you claim.  There was the Eastern version (Abner’s), the Jewish version (James’) and the Hellenized version (Paul’s), not to mention Nathaniel’s version and others who went their separate ways to teach.  But all those versions, and many more since that time, all identify with Jesus as their leader.   And that’s what matters most.

    193:6.4 Nathaniel differed increasingly with Peter regarding preaching about Jesus in the place of proclaiming the former gospel of the kingdom. This disagreement became so acute by the middle of the following month that Nathaniel withdrew, going to Philadelphia to visit Abner and Lazarus; and after tarrying there for more than a year, he went on into the lands beyond Mesopotamia preaching the gospel as he understood it.

    166:5.4 It was the apparent misfortune of Abner to be at variance with all of the leaders of the early Christian church. He fell out with Peter and James (Jesus’ brother) over questions of administration and the jurisdiction of the Jerusalem church; he parted company with Paul over differences of philosophy and theology. Abner was more Babylonian than Hellenic in his philosophy, and he stubbornly resisted all attempts of Paul to remake the teachings of Jesus so as to present less that was objectionable, first to the Jews, then to the Greco-Roman believers in the mysteries.

    166:5.5 Thus was Abner compelled to live a life of isolation. He was head of a church which was without standing at Jerusalem. He had dared to defy James the Lord’s brother, who was subsequently supported by Peter. Such conduct effectively separated him from all his former associates. Then he dared to withstand Paul. Although he was wholly sympathetic with Paul in his mission to the gentiles, and though he supported him in his contentions with the church at Jerusalem, he bitterly opposed the version of Jesus’ teachings which Paul elected to preach. In his last years Abner denounced Paul as the “clever corrupter of the life teachings of Jesus of Nazareth, the Son of the living God.”

     

     

     

     

  17. Your sharp comments are too well-directed to deflect, if I were proposing what you appear to believe I am. It is certainly natural to be suspicious of the motives of others, but my motives are different than you apparently assume.

    You quote a favorite paragraph of mine on the “real purpose in the socialization of religion.” You seem fine with the purposes stated in this section, as am I. You do not appear to favor the idea that this socialization of religion should progress beyond the study group level. I understand what you mean by “It’s only when one group starts to lord it over the others that problems begin.” I assume this is what leads to your thought transition from the religious to the political realm, when you remark “the danger of having one single party is that it can quickly claim to be the One and Only True Party.” But following your train of thought, isn’t it obvious that the Urantia movement has already split into two “political parties,” where each claims it knows the one true way to disseminate the teachings, where each is the one true successor of Urantia Brotherhood?

    With reference to this paragraph you ask rhetorically, “Do you think ONE group can do all that and satisfy every single creature on this planet?” Let me ask, what do you make of the following:

    There are many nations, mostly determined by land distribution, but only one race, one language, and one religion. 52:5.10

    No evolutionary world can hope to progress beyond the first stage of settledness in light until it has achieved one language, one religion, and one philosophy. 55:3.22

    We are very far from these times, to be sure. But does our remoteness from them necessarily mean that we must abandon all hope of moving even a little bit closer to this ideal of one religion? And what do they really mean, when they talk about one worldwide religion?

     

  18. From your various dismissive assertions “that’s rubbish!”, “that’s hogwash!!”, and “yuh think?” I suspect you’re not particularly amenable to a simple discussion at this time about where our opinions may differ on certain things. I would point out, however, that the apostles and 12 of John’s followers did in fact reach a unanimous compromise on religious doctrines. You give several examples of where there was a lack of compromise, but you fail to mention all of the compromises Paul made in his formalization of the doctrines of Christianity, particularly with Mithraism.

    Peace, my friend.

  19. But following your train of thought, isn’t it obvious that the Urantia movement has already split into two “political parties,” where each claims it knows the one true way to disseminate the teachings, where each is the one true successor of Urantia Brotherhood?

    Oh no, not political parties.  You misunderstand. I’m referring to religious parties, not unlike the Sadducees and Pharisees in Jesus’ day, which we are told were parties.

    137:7.7 The Sadducees consisted of the priesthood and certain wealthy Jews. They were not such sticklers for the details of law enforcement. The Pharisees and Sadducees were really religious parties, rather than sects.

    I think Urantia Book readers (notice I avoid the word movement) have formed far more than just two parties. There are many, many if you include all the various channelling groups under the UB umbrella.  There are scads of TUB related religious parties.  And no, they do not get along very well.  But even if you forced them all into one group, they’d still fight with one another over this or that.

    George Park wrote: We are very far from these times, to be sure. But does our remoteness from them necessarily mean that we must abandon all hope of moving even a little bit closer to this ideal of one religion? And what do they really mean, when they talk about one worldwide religion?

    There you go!  And you seem to want it to happen magically overnight by revolution rather than evolution . . .  just put aside all your differences and try to get along. Be happy, be clappy, be snappy!  Well, even if we all did that, we would still have many different religious parties, sects, groups, whatever you want to call them, each one fulfilling a different need.  And that’s all good.  Even when we get to light and life, when there is only one global religion, I guarantee you there will still be many, many different social religious groups with differing approaches to the same religion while operating under the aegis of one single worldwide religion.  That’s healthy.

    One worldwide religion is just like one worldwide government.  No difference really.  What do they say about worldwide, or global government?  It has to do with sovereignty.  A multitude of religious parties, groups, sects can function peacefully if they relinquish sovereignty to the concept of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of men. Small groups maintain dominion over their local affairs; national groups are in charge of national affairs and international issues become the responsibility of the global group, with representation from all the local and national groups.  There aren’t any fewer groups, just one global representative body which relishes the idea of the fatherhood of God and the brotherhood of men.

    It’s a simple idea but difficult to execute.  No one really wants to relinquish their sovereignty, and no one will unless they see that they are not giving up their freedom in exchange for membership. And they must also see that their representatives to the global group have equal power with other members.  Is there a plan like that for Urantia Book readers?  If so, it must leave all the current groups intact while accepting representatives from them to the global group.  Regardless, it’s all about social and group issues, not personal religion.  The individual religionist remains free to engage in personal religious relationships with Deity, regardless of what any group, at any level, has to say about it.

     

  20. but you fail to mention all of the compromises Paul made in his formalization of the doctrines of Christianity, particularly with Mithraism.

    I’m not sure what that has to do with the discussion but I can explain it.  First of all, Paul did not formalize the doctrines of Christianity.  That was done long, long after his death.  Christianity didn’t really emerge as a church until around the 4th Century.  Second of all, Paul was a self-appointed apostle; he never met Jesus and was never taught by Jesus, ever!  Nor did Paul fraternize with those who were taught by Jesus, so all of his religious ideas came from his own “mystical experience” with Jesus.  Paul invented his own religion.  He used Jesus.  Third of all, Paul did not compromise with Mithraism, Mithraic practitioners compromised with him.  It was the other way around. He used them like he used Jesus.  When it comes right down to it, the only real difference between Mithraism and Paul’s religion is the name of the dying-rising, divine-human savior.

    Here’s what you need to know: Paul, who only knew a mystical version of Jesus, in all his writings, positioned his “mystical Christ” religion as completely separate from the Jesus movement in Jerusalem headed up by Peter and James, two men who knew Jesus intimately in the flesh.  Paul rarely if ever spoke of the teachings of Jesus, things he actually taught while alive, but he spoke of experiences with the ascended Jesus who told him things while in a “mystical form”.  Paul travelled all through the Diaspora forming congregations that were free from Jewish law.  Peter and James knew Jesus as a practicing Jew, a real flesh and blood Jewish man.  Paul’s Jesus was not Jewish, but mystical and therefore transcended Jewish law.

    Even though Paul preached in synagogues, you have to remember that Gentile “God-Fearers”, were permitted in synagogues.  (Recall the phrase “proselyte of the gate, having been neither circumcised nor baptized”).  These are the people he recruited, folks on the margins. In fact, Paul got into confrontations with Jews wherever he went.  His followers were Gentiles, well educated in the mystery religions, Hellenized folk, and Paul made a point of separating them from Judaism.  Paul’s religion made fewer demands on them. They did not have to read, understand and follow Torah.  In synagogues they were second-class citizens, but in Paul’s new mystical Christ religion, they were no longer appendages hanging around the gate, but full-fledged mystical members in the body of Christ,  and that was a powerful and dramatically appealing lure.

    What else was the draw of the mystery religions?  Secret mystical experiences with deity, of course, and this is precisely what Paul preached.  It was, after all, his own personal experience with the mystical Christ that he was touting as a possibility for everyone.  The belief structure is exactly the same in Paul’s religion as it is in Mithraism, as well as other mystery religions that spanned the Mediterranean world at the time.  If it wasn’t Mithraism, it was the cults of Osiris, Dionysus and Isis.  They all had the same message, a God-human savior who conquers the forces of cosmic evil and promises salvation.   Paul borrowed all these ideas and crammed them into his so-called new religion.  There were no compromises!

     

     

     

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