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Destinies of Ascending Sons

67 posts · 8 participants · started Nov 10, 2015, 6:31 PM

  1. It is interesting to consider the process to achieve our potential “Destinies of Ascending Sons”.  To what extent, if any, is this a process of “elimination” (a negative process) and to what measure is it the acquisition of that spirit born nature (a positive process).  Elimination vs. acquisition.  I confess my own confusion on this topic related to transcendence and ascendency.

    I think the process of transferring the seat of our identity is a positive transition performed best by a fundamental shift in our motive, our intentions, our priorities, and the choices made subsequent to these foundational changes in mind.  Sincerity we are told is the key to the kingdom.  Sincerity is a motive and the basis for intention and the driving force for choice.  All of which delivers multiple forms of confusions, uncertainties, frustrations, disappointments, and failures – all normal for children of little experience and wisdom.  Thus, the gift of time!!  Practice makes perfect as they say…..lots and lots of practice.

    The confidence of our relationship with Father and His love for us helps curb/moderate these frustrations and disappointments.  Watch any toddler toddle and fall and toddle some more, and then lurch forward in a run to find that balance to run with the wind!!  We are to be patient with ourselves…as well as others during this learning to find balance and developing of abilities to overcome the natural force of gravity upon our body.  I think the list above of conflicting urges illuminates two opposing forces of gravity – material attachments on the one hand and spirit gravity’s force upon the growing soul.  Determination to run, jump, and ultimately fly in defiance of physical gravity combined with the sincere intent of the human mind to seek God and be/become like Him should replace the notion of negative elimination of inferior choices for progress.

    Positive intentions trump negative eliminations I think.  It is replacing the inferior with the superior more than the removal of the inferior that we should focus upon.  In this way we should consider the functionality of “displacement” rather than “replacement”.  The true, beautiful, and good slowly displaces the animal self indulgence and pleasure seeking of self love we are born with as material beings.  The spirit nature displaces the animal nature by the choices we make over time.

    :-)

     

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  2. Yes, in a sense. I’m not sure it’s a “negative process”. We were created with a dual nature. It is our nature, and as I understand it, all inhabited or inhabitable worlds are or will be peopled with mortals who also have to struggle with uncertainties, perplexing problems, decisional crises and the like.

    Mara, you presented the UB questions, presented in your post and reposted in my reply but the questions directly assume that an individual is to either recognize and or communicate with their internal Thought Adjuster, whereby this might be considered as “Destinies of Ascending Sons”, which by the title of this topic implies that a person/soul has or can recognize their sonship?

    Yes we are created with a “dual nature” – “as a result of inborn or inherent qualities; innately (inherent in the essential character of something)” where as defined in some sense in the UB as “animal vs. spiritual” nature.  However, as mentioned, those questions are arbitrarily based on a tri-union, where the TA represents the “Father”, the material individual/animal represents the “Ascending Son” or self and, then there is the “guardian seraphim” who represents the part of the “Spirit”, which makes up a tri-union representing the “mind”, which we use to function or act out various life’s choices.

    The following UB quote precedes the so called “positive” vs “negative”, or “spiritual” vs “material”, presentations, as the “seraphim said” below and, would or should be understood from that spirit-part which resides within the mind of the individual.  Where these are one seraphim experience after the physical death of a subject.

    (1223.6) 111:7.4 The higher human races of Urantia are complexly admixed; they are a blend of many races and stocks of different origin. This composite nature renders it exceedingly difficult for the Monitors to work efficiently during life and adds definitely to the problems of both the Adjuster and the guardian seraphim after death. Not long since I was present on Salvington and heard a guardian of destiny present a formal statement in extenuation of the difficulties of ministering to her mortal subject. This seraphim said:

    Therefore, whether one uses the words “positive” and “negative” or “north” and “south” poles, to represent the difference between the aggregation of those characteristics mentioned, there is always a need for “balance” between the two extremes where there is a fulcrum which slides back and forth between the “dual natures” of man.

    Also, as stated above, why is there a problem, for the “Adjuster and the guardian seraphim after death” ???

    So, having presented those questions, what are the possible answers which might be debated as to “WHY” these questions were presented?

  3. Me here: We are taught that only the very material and/or very spiritual minded mortals experience no conflict in mind while the mind which transcends material attachment to aspire to spirit potentials will experience the conflicts noted below. The process of transferring the seat of our identity requires rather rigorous adjustments and a keen will intent upon the prize of eternal life by the choices we make to respond to spirit within.

    Bradly, I did not post the content listed below your statement above but, you use the word “conflicts” to represent the “seraphim” presentation of difficulty, where “conflicts” is as go a word as any but, this word implied opposing references just like positive and negative.

    However, I’m not sure what your statement above actually means in relation the seraphim presentation of difficulties?  I know that you had something in mind to present but, as I read it, it has little to do with the reasons for your post?  Nice words which roll off the tongue eloquently but, say what???

  4. MidiChlorian wrote:

    Mara, you presented the UB questions, presented in your post and reposted in my reply but the questions directly assume that an individual is to either recognize and or communicate with their internal Thought Adjuster, whereby this might be considered as “Destinies of Ascending Sons”, which by the title of this topic implies that a person/soul has or can recognize their sonship?

    These questions were presented by the author, a Solitary Messenger of Orvonton in PAPER 111, P.1223 and yes, we are “. . . to heed the distant echo of the Adjuster’s faithful call. . . .” which call is spirit-full, but each one of us chooses whether his/her soul picks up or does not pick up the distant echo.  A distant echo surely is less clear to the ear, but the flavor is divine and personal to you and your soul, not the soul of someone else.

    111:7:2  May I admonish you to heed the distant echo of the Adjuster’s faithful call to your soul? The indwelling Adjuster cannot stop or even materially alter your career struggle of time; the Adjuster cannot lessen the hardships of life as you journey on through this world of toil. The divine indweller can only patiently forbear while you fight the battle of life as it is lived on your planet; but you could, if you only would — as you work and worry, as you fight and toil — permit the valiant Adjuster to fight with you and for you. You could be so comforted and inspired, so enthralled and intrigued, if you would only allow the Adjuster constantly to bring forth the pictures of the real motive, the final aim, and the eternal purpose of all this difficult, uphill struggle with the commonplace problems of your present material world.

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    The Adjuster is constantly trying to bring forth pictures of the real motive, the final aim of the Father’s eternal purpose throughout our uphill struggles in a material world.

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    108:6:6  And as you are the human parent, so is the Adjuster the divine parent of the real you, your higher and advancing self, your better morontial and future spiritual self. And it is this evolving morontial soul that the judges and censors discern when they decree your survival and pass you upward to new worlds and never-ending existence in eternal liaison with your faithful partner — God, the Adjuster.

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    111:3:2  During the life in the flesh the evolving soul is enabled to reinforce the supermaterial decisions of the mortal mind. The soul, being supermaterial, does not of itself function on the material level of human experience. Neither can this subspiritual soul, without the collaboration of some spirit of Deity, such as the Adjuster, function above the morontia level. Neither does the soul make final decisions until death or translation divorces it from material association with the mortal mind except when and as this material mind delegates such authority freely and willingly to such a morontia soul of associated function. During life the mortal will, the personality power of decision-choice, is resident in the material mind circuits; as terrestrial mortal growth proceeds, this self, with its priceless powers of choice, becomes increasingly identified with the emerging morontia-soul entity; after death and following the mansion world resurrection, the human personality is completely identified with the morontia self. The soul is thus the embryo of the future morontia vehicle of personality identity.

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    MidiChlorian wrote:

    . . . and, then there is the “guardian seraphim”. . . .

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    The guardian seraphim work from the outside inward, through the social, ethical and moral environment.  “On the spiritual level, seraphim make personal many otherwise impersonal and prepersonal ministries of the universe; they are co-ordinators. On the intellectual level they are the correlators of mind and morontia; they are interpreters. And on the physical level they manipulate terrestrial environment through their liaison with the Master Physical Controllers and through the co-operative ministry of the midway creatures.”

     

    113:4:1  The guardian seraphim are not mind, though they do spring from the same source that also gives origin to mortal mind, the Creative Spirit.Seraphim are mind stimulators; they continually seek to promote circle-making decisions in human mind. They do this, not as does the Adjuster, operating from within and through the soul, but rather from the outside inward, working through the social, ethical, and moral environment of human beings. Seraphim are not the divine Adjuster lure of the Universal Father, but they do function as the personal agency of the ministry of the Infinite Spirit.

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    Upon death the guardian seraphim conserve as a trustee (113:6:5 ) all of everything of value of you  – a keeper of your records, your identity specifications and your morontia soul that is conjointly evolved  by the ministry of mind (loaned to you) and your Adjuster.  The guardian of destiny (seraphim) carries this part of you to the first Mansion world to await your consciousizing there.

     

    113:6:1  Having told you something of the ministry of seraphim during natural life, I will endeavor to inform you about the conduct of the guardians of destiny at the time of the mortal dissolution of their human associates. Upon your death, your records, identity specifications, and the morontia entity of the human soul — conjointly evolved by the ministry of mortal mind and the divine Adjuster — are faithfully conserved by the destiny guardian together with all other values related to your future existence, everything that constitutes you, the real you, except the identity of continuing existence represented by the departing Adjuster and the actuality of personality.

     

    113:6:2  The instant the pilot light in the human mind disappears, the spirit luminosity which seraphim associate with the presence of the Adjuster, the attending angel reports in person to the commanding angels, successively, of the group, company, battalion, unit, legion, and host; and after being duly registered for the final adventure of time and space, such an angel receives certification by the planetary chief of seraphim for reporting to the Evening Star (or other lieutenant of Gabriel) in command of the seraphic army of this candidate for universe ascension. And upon being granted permission from the commander of this highest organizational unit, such a guardian of destiny proceeds to the first mansion world and there awaits the consciousizing of her former ward in the flesh.

     

    The guardian seraphim are one of the many orders of the Divine Minister of the Infinite Spirit.  They are our unseen friends.  They do not invade the human mind.

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    113:5:1  Angels do not invade the sanctity of the human mind; they do not manipulate the will of mortals; neither do they directly contact with the indwelling Adjusters. The guardian of destiny influences you in every possible manner consistent with the dignity of your personality; under no circumstances do these angels interfere with the free action of the human will. Neither angels nor any other order of universe personality have power or authority to curtail or abridge the prerogatives of human choosing.

  5. . . . why is there a problem, for the “Adjuster and the guardian seraphim after death” ???

    My best guess is found in the reference you cited:

    111:7:4  The higher human races of Urantia are complexly admixed; they are a blend of many races and stocks of different origin. This composite nature renders it exceedingly difficult for the Monitors to work efficiently during life and adds definitely to the problems of both the Adjuster and the guardian seraphim after death.
  6. Paper 28 – 6. The Tertiary Seconaphin

    1. The Significance of Origins – “….but with the ascending beings, including the lower orders of angels, the nature and circumstances  of origin are not always so clear, though of equally vital importance at almost every turn of universe affairs – hence the value of having at our disposal a series of reflective seconaphim who can instantly portray anything required respecting the genesis of any being in either the central universe or throughout the entire realm of a superuniverse….”

    One of my favorite one liners from this Paper – “….You should realize that there is a great reward of personal satisfaction in being first just, next fair, then patient, then kind…..”

    Isn’t “personal satisfaction” similar to self-gratification?

    How the individual will be judged is a revelation in Paper 28.

  7. So, having presented those questions, what are the possible answers which might be debated as to “WHY” these questions were presented?

    As for my opinion, I don’t think the questions are meant to be debated in the sense of trying to discern arguments for or against one answer over another.  Each one of us leads a unique life, so it stands to reason answers are going to vary.  As to why the questions were presented?  Probably to get our attention.  What would be your answer?

  8. Sabinatu asked:

     “Isn’t “personal satisfaction” similar to self-gratification?”

    Interesting pair of words, Sabinatu! Got me thinking:

    “My choice satisfied my adjuster.”

    “My choice gratified my adjuster.”

    Does the fact service can be so satisfying and so gratifying imply something about personality?

    Nigel

  9. Me here: We are taught that only the very material and/or very spiritual minded mortals experience no conflict in mind while the mind which transcends material attachment to aspire to spirit potentials will experience the conflicts noted below. The process of transferring the seat of our identity requires rather rigorous adjustments and a keen will intent upon the prize of eternal life by the choices we make to respond to spirit within.

    Bradly, I did not post the content listed below your statement above but, you use the word “conflicts” to represent the “seraphim” presentation of difficulty, where “conflicts” is as go a word as any but, this word implied opposing references just like positive and negative. However, I’m not sure what your statement above actually means in relation the seraphim presentation of difficulties? I know that you had something in mind to present but, as I read it, it has little to do with the reasons for your post? Nice words which roll off the tongue eloquently but, say what???

     

    Me here:  I’ll try to clarify:  Neither the TA or seraphim experiences the conflicts listed….the mortal mind has such conflict by its dual nature which delivers “difficulties” for the TA and ministry of seraphim.  The quote I was paraphrasing is by the Master:

    159:3.7 (1766.3) Forewarn all believers regarding the fringe of conflict which must be traversed by all who pass from the life as it is lived in the flesh to the higher life as it is lived in the spirit. To those who live quite wholly within either realm, there is little conflict or confusion, but all are doomed to experience more or less uncertainty during the times of transition between the two levels of living. In entering the kingdom, you cannot escape its responsibilities or avoid its obligations, but remember: The gospel yoke is easy and the burden of truth is light.

    Me:  The aspiring mortal ascender must overcome all manner of conflict during the spiritization process of transferring the seat of our identity – here is something on the “displacement” notion posted by me:

    100:4.1 (1097.5) Religious living is devoted living, and devoted living is creative living, original and spontaneous. New religious insights arise out of conflicts which initiate the choosing of new and better reaction habits in the place of older and inferior reaction patterns. New meanings only emerge amid conflict; and conflict persists only in the face of refusal to espouse the higher values connoted in superior meanings.

    100:4.2 (1097.6) Religious perplexities are inevitable; there can be no growth without psychic conflict and spiritual agitation. The organization of a philosophic standard of living entails considerable commotion in the philosophic realms of the mind. Loyalties are not exercised in behalf of the great, the good, the true, and the noble without a struggle. Effort is attendant upon clarification of spiritual vision and enhancement of cosmic insight. And the human intellect protests against being weaned from subsisting upon the nonspiritual energies of temporal existence. The slothful animal mind rebels at the effort required to wrestle with cosmic problem solving.

    100:5.2 (1098.5) The progression of religious growth leads from stagnation through conflict to co-ordination, from insecurity to undoubting faith, from confusion of cosmic consciousness to unification of personality, from the temporal objective to the eternal, from the bondage of fear to the liberty of divine sonship.

    100:6.3 (1100.5) The marks of human response to the religious impulse embrace the qualities of nobility and grandeur. The sincere religionist is conscious of universe citizenship and is aware of making contact with sources of superhuman power. He is thrilled and energized with the assurance of belonging to a superior and ennobled fellowship of the sons of God. The consciousness of self-worth has become augmented by the stimulus of the quest for the highest universe objectives — supreme goals.

    100:6.4 (1100.6) The self has surrendered to the intriguing drive of an all-encompassing motivation which imposes heightened self-discipline, lessens emotional conflict, and makes mortal life truly worth living. The morbid recognition of human limitations is changed to the natural consciousness of mortal shortcomings, associated with moral determination and spiritual aspiration to attain the highest universe and superuniverse goals. And this intense striving for the attainment of supermortal ideals is always characterized by increasing patience, forbearance, fortitude, and tolerance.

    103:2.4 (1131.3) Every human being very early experiences something of a conflict between his self-seeking and his altruistic impulses, and many times the first experience of God-consciousness may be attained as the result of seeking for superhuman help in the task of resolving such moral conflicts.

    103:2.8 (1131.7) When a moral being chooses to be unselfish when confronted by the urge to be selfish, that is primitive religious experience. No animal can make such a choice; such a decision is both human and religious. It embraces the fact of God-consciousness and exhibits the impulse of social service, the basis of the brotherhood of man. When mind chooses a right moral judgment by an act of the free will, such a decision constitutes a religious experience.

    Me:  I hope this helps.

    :-)

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  10. Sabinatu asked:

    “Isn’t “personal satisfaction” similar to self-gratification?”Interesting pair of words, Sabinatu! Got me thinking:

    “My choice satisfied my adjuster.”

    “My choice gratified my adjuster.” Does the fact service can be so satisfying and so gratifying imply something about personality? Nigel

    Me here:  The dictionary definition of the two words does indicate some similarity – they are listed as synomyms one for the other.  However, there is quite a distinction in satisfaction and gratification  as well, especially when the word “self” is applied as prefix – personal satisfaction is completely different from self satisfied for example.  It appears that personal pleasure is a goal for the feeling of gratification while accomplishment or realization is the cause for the effect of satisfaction.  In some ways, this is quite the hair splitting… I think the revelators chose their terms carefully but gratification is a bigger term than “self-gratification” which seems to me to be a distinction of motive for choosing and acting in serving self or seeking for self – while satisfaction would mean something very similar if presented as “self-satisfaction” – to be satisfied by oneself – personal satisfaction is distinct from either self-satisfaction or self gratification  (see “subjective gratification” below).  Interesting.

    100:0.2 (1094.2) Spiritual growth is mutually stimulated by intimate association with other religionists. Love supplies the soil for religious growth — an objective lure in the place of subjective gratification — yet it yields the supreme subjective satisfaction. And religion ennobles the commonplace drudgery of daily living.

    136:6.10 (1519.3) This great decision of Jesus portrays dramatically the truth that selfish satisfaction and sensuous gratification, alone and of themselves, are not able to confer happiness upon evolving human beings. There are higher values in mortal existence — intellectual mastery and spiritual achievement — which far transcend the necessary gratification of man’s purely physical appetites and urges. Man’s natural endowment of talent and ability should be chiefly devoted to the development and ennoblement of his higher powers of mind and spirit.

    136:6.11 (1519.4) Jesus thus revealed to the creatures of his universe the technique of the new and better way, the higher moral values of living and the deeper spiritual satisfactions of evolutionary human existence on the worlds of space.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  11. I’ll try to clarify: Neither the TA or seraphim experiences the conflicts listed….the mortal mind has such conflict by its dual nature which delivers “difficulties” for the TA and ministry of seraphim.

    Bradly you say that “neither the TA or Seraphim experiences”, okay, however, if this were true how is it that the UB presents that list as indicated “This seraphim said:” and then precedes as “Much of my difficulty was due to the unending conflict between the two natures of my subject:” which was presented in quotation marks, where if the Seraphim cannot “experience” what their “subject” either experiences or undergo, then why would the UB indicate that the Seraphim states “my difficulty” where it may also imply that the Seraphim may have influenced or attempted to influence their subject, and was able to discern those “conflicts” presented from their influence.

    Granted that the narration in question is after the fact of the subjects death but, still in life the Seraphim would need to be able to experience or retain these things even if only through a conjoint-like function.  Therefore, being that these are internal functions of the mind, it would be evident that the Seraphim are able to relate or have a reflection of the subject’s mind, and were it not true, how would the Seraphim be able to influence the subject?

  12. Bradly wrote: I’ll try to clarify: Neither the TA or seraphim experiences the conflicts listed….the mortal mind has such conflict by its dual nature which delivers “difficulties” for the TA and ministry of seraphim.

    Bradly you say that “neither the TA or Seraphim experiences”, okay, however, if this were true how is it that the UB presents that list as indicated “This seraphim said:” and then precedes as “Much of my difficulty was due to the unending conflict between the two natures of my subject:” which was presented in quotation marks, where if the Seraphim cannot “experience” what their “subject” either experiences or undergo, then why would the UB indicate that the Seraphim states “my difficulty” where it may also imply that the Seraphim may have influenced or attempted to influence their subject, and was able to discern those “conflicts” presented from their influence.

     

    Me here:  I think what is meant is that the Seraphim experiences “difficulty” due to the mortal mind’s experience of “conflict”.  They are not the same experience at all.  “Much of my difficulty” is due to “the unending conflict” of the duality of mortal mind.  There is a clear differentiation expressed between the two experiences described in the quote.  The awareness that the TA and/or seraphim may have OF the experience in the mortal mind is not the same as having the same experience.  I have no idea what you mean to imply by claiming that “it may also imply”  that the seraphim or TA “influenced” the subject.  Mara provided much text on the sanctity of free will and how these ministers attempt to “lead” us to decisions and through choices to actualize our spirit realizations.  So you would need to clarify the ambiguity in the word “influenced” to go further with that discussion.

    "Live loyally today—grow—and tomorrow will attend to itself. The quickest way for a tadpole to become a frog is to live loyally each moment as a tadpole."

  13. So you would need to clarify the ambiguity in the word “influenced” to go further with that discussion.

    Thanks for responding Bradly, and I used the word “influenced” or “influence” based on the UB narrative within that section which is in question.  However, if I may present some UB quotes which may shed some light on where I hope to conjoin the spirit influence on an individual, as you have mentioned any influence would be subject to that individuals free-will but, prior to that individual making a free-will choice, the minds processing may be presented with various options which the normal individual would use in order to make that free-will choice.  The UB mentions and uses the word “influence” and its derivative many times where it is associated and directed to the individual, either by the TA or other spirit entity, therefore I present the following few as a starter to the issue of “influence”.

    (63.5) 5:1.7 Man is spiritually indwelt by a surviving Thought Adjuster. If such a human mind is sincerely and spiritually motivated, if such a human soul desires to know God and become like him, honestly wants to do the Father’s will, there exists no negative influence of mortal deprivation nor positive power of possible interference which can prevent such a divinely motivated soul from securely ascending to the portals of Paradise.

    The previous UB quote is to indicate that there is a control factor with the individual where by to make a free-will choice.

    (64.7) 5:2.4 It is because of this God fragment that indwells you that you can hope, as you progress in harmonizing with the Adjuster’s spiritual leadings, more fully to discern the presence and transforming power of those other spiritual influences that surround you and impinge upon you but do not function as an integral part of you. The fact that you are not intellectually conscious of close and intimate contact with the indwelling Adjuster does not in the least disprove such an exalted experience. The proof of fraternity with the divine Adjuster consists wholly in the nature and extent of the fruits of the spirit which are yielded in the life experience of the individual believer. “By their fruits you shall know them.”

    (95.7) 8:5.4 There are many spiritual influences, and they are all as one. Even the work of the Thought Adjusters, though independent of all other influences, unvaryingly coincides with the spirit ministry of the combined influences of the Infinite Spirit and a local universe Mother Spirit. As these spiritual presences operate in the lives of Urantians, they cannot be segregated. In your minds and upon your souls they function as one spirit, notwithstanding their diverse origins. And as this united spiritual ministration is experienced, it becomes to you the influence of the Supreme, “who is ever able to keep you from failing and to present you blameless before your Father on high.”

    I will present more which are associated to and with Seraphim, as the discussion progresses and if warranted.

    In addition you stated in your post ‘“Much of my difficulty” is due to “the unending conflict” of the duality of mortal mind.’ Where I understand your statement but, would you agree that the “duality” can be generally defined as “spiritual” vs. “material” or the animal influence of the individual?

  14. . . . there is a control factor with the individual where by to make a free-will choice.

    Free-will choice is limited by the range of choice of one’s status sphere.

    118:6:5  Volition on any level short of the absolute encounters limitations which are constitutive in the very personality exercising the power of choice. Man cannot choose beyond the range of that which is choosable. He cannot, for instance, choose to be other than a human being except that he can elect to become more than a man; he can choose to embark upon the voyage of universe ascension, but this is because the human choice and the divine will happen to be coincident upon this point. And what a son desires and the Father wills will certainly come to pass.
  15. (95.7) 8:5.4 There are many spiritual influences, and they are all as one. Even the work of the Thought Adjusters, though independent of all other influences, unvaryingly coincides with the spirit ministry of the combined influences of the Infinite Spirit and a local universe Mother Spirit. As these spiritual presences operate in the lives of Urantians, they cannot be segregated. In your minds and upon your souls they function as one spirit, notwithstanding their diverse origins. And as this united spiritual ministration is experienced, it becomes to you the influence of the Supreme, “who is ever able to keep you from failing and to present you blameless before your Father on high.”

    This is one of my favs Midi, and I highlight “and they are all as one,” as it is italicized in the original text.

    Here is another reference pertaining to what is intrusted to the guardian seraphim, the seraphic destiny guardian, upon mortal death.

    47:3:3  The mortal-mind transcripts and the active creature-memory patterns as transformed from the material levels to the spiritual are the individual possession of the detached Thought Adjusters; these spiritized factors of mind, memory, and creature personality are forever a part of such Adjusters. The creature mind-matrix and the passive potentials of identity are present in the morontia soul intrusted to the keeping of the seraphic destiny guardians. And it is the reuniting of the morontia-soul trust of the seraphim and the spirit-mind trust of the Adjuster that reassembles creature personality and constitutes resurrection of a sleeping survivor.
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    Some of these guardian seraphim are intrusted with groups of individuals, because each individual in the group did not achieve the requisites during life to be given a personal guardian seraphim.
    49:6:7  Thus are the sleeping survivors of a planetary age repersonalized in the dispensational roll calls. But with regard to the nonsalvable personalities of a realm, no immortal spirit is present to function with the group guardians of destiny, and this constitutes cessation of creature existence. While some of your records have pictured these events as taking place on the planets of mortal death, they all really occur on the mansion worlds.
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    49:6:8  2. Mortals of the individual orders of ascension. The individual progress of human beings is measured by their successive attainment and traversal (mastery) of the seven cosmic circles. These circles of mortal progression are levels of associated intellectual, social, spiritual, and cosmic-insight values. Starting out in the seventh circle, mortals strive for the first, and all who have attained the third immediately have personal guardians of destiny assigned to them. These mortals may be repersonalized in the morontia life independent of dispensational or other adjudications.
  16. Free-will choice is limited by the range of choice of one’s status sphere.

    118:6:5 Volition on any level short of the absolute encounters limitations which are constitutive in the very personality exercising the power of choice. Man cannot choose beyond the range of that which is choosable. He cannot, for instance, choose to be other than a human being except that he can elect to become more than a man; he can choose to embark upon the voyage of universe ascension, but this is because the human choice and the divine will happen to be coincident upon this point. And what a son desires and the Father wills will certainly come to pass.

    Mara, as you choose the UB quote listed above, please not the highlighted word “coincident” where its definition is: “happening at the same time”, ” occupying the same place or position” or “in exact agreement (usually followed by with).” It is used above specifically in reference to “the human choice and the divine will” and its “choose to embark upon the voyage of universe ascension,” therefore it would seem that all human free-will choice can be dependent on the choice being presented or made, however all choice may not be “coincident.”

    You also used “status sphere” in your statement above, which has interesting references in the UB.  Presenting specific UB quotes where it is used may not present an actual definition for its use, and you may wish to present you opinion as to your usage above.  However, what I believe, as to its usage in the UB for the most part has some reference to “worlds” where this word can have several references when used but, as I read it, and as it refers to “they are all as one” is a reference to “time” in that even thought the human mind and eye may only perceive time frequency in relation to light reflection, a slight shift in frequency of light can alter visible time, whereby multiple “worlds” in reference to time can exist within the same relative “coincident” – “occupying the same place or position” – thereby the reference to “status sphere” might indicate a point of reference in time within or on the same sphere but with just slightly difference in frequency whereby these worlds could be considered as multi-dimensional, yet still relative to the same place or position.

  17. You also used “status sphere” in your statement. . . .

    It is this status sphere to which I am referring:

    48:6:37  You will learn that you increase your burdens and decrease the likelihood of success by taking yourself too seriously. Nothing can take precedence over the work of your status sphere — this world or the next. Very important is the work of preparation for the next higher sphere, but nothing equals the importance of the work of the world in which you are actually living. But though the work is important, the self is not. When you feel important, you lose energy to the wear and tear of ego dignity so that there is little energy left to do the work. Self-importance, not work-importance, exhausts immature creatures; it is the self element that exhausts, not the effort to achieve. You can do important work if you do not become self-important; you can do several things as easily as one if you leave yourself out. Variety is restful; monotony is what wears and exhausts. Day after day is alike — just life or the alternative of death.
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    Our status sphere is planet earth and we are finite mortals of ascension potential.
  18. Here’s a bit about the “jubilees” of ascending sons. I have taken the liberty to make this paragraph into a list.

    27:7:8 […] The first jubilee marked the mortal agreement with the Thought Adjuster when the purpose to survive was sealed;
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    the second was the awakening in the morontia life;
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    the third was the fusion with the Thought Adjuster;
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    the fourth was the awakening in Havona;
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    the fifth celebrated the finding of the Universal Father;
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    and the sixth jubilee was the occasion of the Paradise awakening from the final transit slumber of time.
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    The seventh jubilee marks entrance into the mortal finaliter corps and the beginning of the eternity service.
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    The attainment of the seventh stage of spirit realization by a finaliter will probably signalize the celebration of the first of the jubilees of eternity.
  19. MidiChlorian wrote: You also used “status sphere” in your statement. . .

    It is this status sphere to which I am referring:

    48:6:37 You will learn that you increase your burdens and decrease the likelihood of success by taking yourself too seriously. Nothing can take precedence over the work of your status sphere — this world or the next. Very important is the work of preparation for the next higher sphere, but nothing equals the importance of the work of the world in which you are actually living. But though the work is important, the self is not. When you feel important, you lose energy to the wear and tear of ego dignity so that there is little energy left to do the work. Self-importance, not work-importance, exhausts immature creatures; it is the self element that exhausts, not the effort to achieve. You can do important work if you do not become self-important; you can do several things as easily as one if you leave yourself out. Variety is restful; monotony is what wears and exhausts. Day after day is alike — just life or the alternative of death.

    Our status sphere is planet earth and we are finite mortals of ascension potential.

    Mara, your reference to the use of “status sphere” in the UB quote listed above, would be a common understanding of the use of the word “sphere” and may very well be the intended usage intended by the authors but in the various usages of the word “status”, used about 438 times in the UB, it is used as a “noun”, where in a few cases it is used as an adjective.

    • status sphere
    • status companion
    • status wife
    • status worlds
    • status evolution

    The usage of the words “status” above, are used as adjectives, and would indicate a position or standing.

    Where in the use of “status world” in the following UB quote, has been qualified as not being a residence of actual location.

    (148.5) 13:2.6 The worlds of the inner circuit are really fraternal or status worlds more than actual residential spheres. Mortals will attain some status on each of the Father’s worlds save one. For example: When you mortals attain Havona, you are granted clearance for Ascendington, where you are most welcome, but you are not permitted to visit the other six sacred worlds. Subsequent to your passage through the Paradise regime and after your admission to the Corps of the Finality, you are granted clearance for Sonarington since you are sons of God as well as ascenders — and you are even more. But there will always remain one seventh of Sonarington, the sector of the incarnation secrets of the divine Sons, which will not be open to your scrutiny. Never will those secrets be revealed to the ascendant sons of God.

    As it is used above – “When you mortals attain Havona, you are granted clearance” which might be considered a security status, so to speak, in that – “Mortals will attain some status”, which can be associated to a level or degree of advancement which is a “granted clearance” to proceed or the ability to proceed.

    In your UB reference quote above, where you highlighted – “Nothing can take precedence over the work of your status sphere — this world or the next.”  Where it is “the work” which takes “precedence” as your status or level of ability, which one has achieved and, the reference to “this world or the next” would not necessarily be linked to “sphere” as one might associate with “this world” or “Earth”?

    The sentence which follows – “Very important is the work of preparation for the next higher sphere, but nothing equals the importance of the work of the world in which you are actually living.” –  would imply that “status sphere” is associated to your local world which you live but, “the work of preparation” is the focal point, which would elevate one’s status “higher” for the next level or preparedness, where “status sphere” might be associated to circle status or circuit status?

    (156.1) 14:3.4 The billion spheres of the central universe constitute the training worlds of the high personalities native to Paradise and Havona and further serve as the final proving grounds for ascending creatures from the evolutionary worlds of time. In the execution of the Universal Father’s great plan of creature ascension the pilgrims of time are landed on the receiving worlds of the outer or seventh circuit, and subsequent to increased training and enlarged experience, they are progressively advanced inward, planet by planet and circle by circle, until they finally attain the Deities and achieve residence on Paradise.

    Realistically, if an ascension creature had to progress through a “billion spheres” in order to “finally attain the Deities” to “achieve residence” status “on Paradise”, it would take an eternity to get to Paradise.

  20. . . . a “billion spheres” in order to “finally attain the Deities” to “achieve residence” status “on Paradise”, it would take an eternity to get to Paradise.

    Are you in a hurry? :-)   Those billion spheres are of the seven Havona circuits.

    14:1:11  Time is not reckoned on Paradise; the sequence of successive events is inherent in the concept of those who are indigenous to the central Isle. But time is germane to the Havona circuits and to numerous beings of both celestial and terrestrial origin sojourning thereon. Each Havona world has its own local time, determined by its circuit. All worlds in a given circuit have the same length of year since they uniformly swing around Paradise, and the length of these planetary years decreases from the outermost to the innermost circuit.
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    14:3:4  The billion spheres of the central universe constitute the training worlds of the high personalities native to Paradise and Havona and further serve as the final proving grounds for ascending creatures from the evolutionary worlds of time. In the execution of the Universal Father’s great plan of creature ascension the pilgrims of time are landed on the receiving worlds of the outer or seventh circuit, and subsequent to increased training and enlarged experience, they are progressively advanced inward, planet by planet and circle by circle, until they finally attain the Deities and achieve residence on Paradise.
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    14:5:7  Not until you traverse the last of the Havona circuits and visit the last of the Havona worlds, will the tonic of adventure and the stimulus of curiosity disappear from your career. And then will the urge, the forward impulse of eternity, replace its forerunner, the adventure lure of time.

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